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7 hours ago, FabioRoses said:

I think they should do Madagascar and Catcher a lot more than they actually do.

There. Fixed that.

2 hours ago, ©GnrPersia said:

It must have been irritating for the crowd to not have pee break this time.

Was not (and we still could use Lineman for that purpose). Didn't even notice KOHD was missing, until I sat in my car. Locomotive both at soundcheck and for real. There was a time. Unlike Oslo, Shadow of your love, Patience and Don't cry. No complaints from my end. 

5 hours ago, bumcheecksmcghee said:

Then you accept mediocrity an that's fine 🙂 

Nah. I just prefer a frontman who's somewhat performing and exciting and doesn't just stand there. And really, there is nothing that lifts Gallagher out of mediocrity.

37 minutes ago, DSTK said:

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/guns-n-roses-glastonbury-2023-a-comically-bad-display/

 

The dick who wrote this ....

Is a reason why no one should take Glastonbury and all it means to some people, seriously. It's utter wank.

43 minutes ago, bumcheecksmcghee said:

Least Liam can still hold a tune 🤷

So what? But he's boring as hell. I'll take Axl's imperfections over the Liam Gallaghers of the world any time.

1 hour ago, Tom2112 said:

Well I was working under the assumption you have functioning eyes and ears, I apologise. But for the rest of us we can confirm he was VERY happy to be there, and spent the gig running the length of the stage (which he doesn't done in a few years) thanking the crowd several times for inviting them. 

Just give it up. I really have no idea why you're so bent out of shape that GNR believe playing Glastonbury is a big feather in their cap. Different opinions are one thing, but when it's right there for everybody to see and you say it's the opposite then you're clearly a bit untethered😄 

Well. YOU believe he was (more) happy to be there, than at other places. I guess at this point he's just happy to be anywhere. He also was happy and smiley and made full use of the stage (whenever they let him, lately they built fences in his way, so he couldn't use all the stage, but he proceeded to tear them down, so he can use all the stage, like in Rio) at other places. I know, because I've seen him all those years. The only difference here was that they haven't been added to boost ticket sales, since it already was sold out and that they were gonna be televised (though, Rio anyone?). So the crowd certainly did not invite them. It's just ridiculous to watch all the stuff you all interpret in whatever they are doing, just like the one claiming that Fortus hated to be there (oh, no. But it's Glastonbury, how could he be not happy to be there, since it's that special?), the predictions of what they were going to be doing, blowing everything out of proportion, when in reality they just played a regular gig in front of a crowd that wasn't nessesarily theirs (though at the end of the day, they even sang along to Slither).

And really, why are you so hellbent to convince everyone that they think it is this special thing, playing at a wanker festival, with people buying tickets without even knowing who's playing and people upset that a proper rock band takes one of their precious headline slots. I remember that ridiculous outrage when Metallica were set to play. But then they gladly welcome all other kind of wank acts. But whatever, what is there to give up, just like you, I'm free to share my opinion. It's special in the sense that they weren't needed to boost sales, but were booked because organizers apparently wanted them there. But I'd say that's about it. Why don't you give it up??

3 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

Pyro on backing tracks, it's gone too far

Crying to bring back pyro. It's gone too far. There is nothing really added to the show, unless it is Rammstein. The way GNR has been using it, it's absolutely irrelevant whether it's there or not.

29 minutes ago, stezmacc said:

Jesus just an observation…u ok hun?

Yes. Are you?

3 minutes ago, stezmacc said:

Just rewatching from last night and is it me or does Richard seem really pissed off lately like he’d rather been anywhere other than on stage.

Right. Because making the money of his life, not having to worry about a thing, basically being on paid vacation and playing to the biggest crowds in his life is hell. Geez. The things you interpret in whatever you see. Also they hold him hostage and he can't opt out any time that all becomes too hellish for him.

10 hours ago, Tom2112 said:

Are you still ranting on about this?🤣 

Listen to the broadcast. Axl is absolutely beaming that they are playing Glastonbury. He thought it was a big deal. You don't have to though😄

Disagreeing and having a different opinion is "ranting"??  Got it. Don't hear no beaming though.

7 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

See the BBC review saying the bands set had too much obscure music in it. Including Slither in that line up. I guess for a Glastonbury set, it is a little front loaded with less "greatest hits" stuff. I think it probably would have been a good idea to go into Jungle second and leave Bad obsession to the middle of the set, if at all. GNR just do not give a fuck🤣 "this is our set, like or lump it!" They don't mind the crowd dwindling. They probably should have brought out some of the fireworks too, although again... it's kinda cool that they forego the easy pop from the pyro.

Just listening here. Jungle was not great you could barely hear him. But almost everything else so far is surprisingly decent. The mix is a little wonky too, Duff and Melissa do a lot of backing vocals and they can barely be heard. Same for the piano

Slash really cocked up the Estranged solo🤣 Axl sounded pretty great on the outro of Estranged.

Rocket Queen vocals... verses he was struggling, but he pulled the old Axl out of the bag for that outro

Reckless life, Patience, Knocking on heavens (it was actually enjoyable🤣) were the most consistent songs vocally of the night by a country mile. There were other songs in there that were decent too, and some that were on the not so great. What I did like was that there was fuck all down time, they were lorrying into songs, so the energy didn't drop to badly 6/10 

 

But they didn't, which means, to them it's just a gig like anyone else, maybe a little special, because it's televised, but other than that they did what the always do. Not give a fuck and play their set.

5 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

Welcome! Just calling in those bragging rights you promised me as you were convinced they wouldn't do Glastonbury......

How about the band releasing a special video celebrating the fact they're playing it? They blowing it out of proportion to? 

This is major deal, as every band and musician knows. I can't understand why people try to pretend it isn't. 

My guess is some certain people are really insanely pissed off they're not there and couldn't be as tickets sell out instantly before a single act is announced. 

That's just tough shit really. This is a big moment for the band. It's why GNR are doing it for a fraction of their usual fee. 

 

Why would I be pissed off to not be at a place where people buy tickets, regardless of who plays?? Also I just saw them last wednesday and will see them again in a week, seeing Alice Cooper in 3 hours and couldn't care less about not being there.

20 minutes ago, SAU3R said:

This thread already has 21 pages, 6 hours before the shows starts. That already shows the magnitude of this show 

Nah. It just shows how you all blow this out of proportion.

15 minutes ago, colonizedmind said:

Good shouts. Loved Axl covering Sabbath! Yep as I originally said, Seeker gives a jolt of energy to the encore. I get the hate of covers but also don't...remember this is a band with a small catalogue...while there is original material we still want to hear, there's a need for them to cover to keep the set fresh too...

Yeah. I can live with The seeker for that reason (unlike snooze fest Wichita lineman.... what is it about that fucking song that they are doing it since years now??). Also he does a good job on it.

5 minutes ago, THELINESMAN said:

So many fucking idiots with big fuckin mouths in this video.

Yeah. And probably they all were the first to buy tickets when the reunion came around. And those are the people the band relies on to charge the prices they now charge.

3 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

I didn't say I don't go because of the shows being too long. You are taking my "Maybe I'd go if the shows were shorter" and making the logical flaw that it means the long shows in the only, or main, reason I don't attend show 

And you are wrong in thinking that everybody shares your approach that the longer the show is the better. I certainly don't feel that way. So yes, a show can actually be too long to many people. Like to the three reviewers whose reviews I summarized earlier in this thread and which I believe you confused for being my own opinions. 

You put it out there, that maybe you go, if they were shorter. Don't backtrack now.

And the people I speak to, who go to shows, love the long shows and usually always are a song missing. It's one credit to GNR that they don't half ass it and give you shows worth the money in length. They could charge the amount of money they do and play 90 mins.  I'm always greatful they don't and cram as much songs into it as possible. Even though I might not enjoy every single one of them, others do.

I did say, who cares what a reviewer thinks (apparently you think the same, as seen by your comment, so again, don't twist things around now). And again. Reviewers don't pay. Reviewers opinions are like assholes. Everyone's got one. They don't matter more than the ones paying for shows. And the majority will be glad they get something for their money and more chances to hear their favourite songs. Otherwise they are free to leave.

But really, the whole exchange is ridiculous. GNR plays long shows. So that's that. Deal with it. You or any reviewer is not going to change that.

1 minute ago, SoulMonster said:

That's correct. But maybe I'd go if the shows were shorter

Wow. Not going to a show, because you get too much for your money. That's a certain kind of...

1 hour ago, SoulMonster said:

Nah, I would prefer a shorter set. 

Oh, well. Didn't you once say you don't even go to GNR shows anymore?? So, you don't pay. What you want, don't matter.

5 minutes ago, Spiritual_Chaos said:

*Three reviewers 

They don't matter either. People who pay to see a show matter.

9 hours ago, jamillos said:

According to Htgth and setlist.fm, it was not played after all.

Idk. Are there no Norwegian forum dwellers? 

Wasn't played. Thank heavens. Got that dreadful Street of dreams though.

1 hour ago, FabioRoses said:

i was thinking about it yesterday. it's a festival, why bother playing better and wichita lineman and skiping your own biggest hits?

Because they clearly thought they would be playing the whole set. At the end there was motioning to hurry up and get to an end as there is a strict curfew. Very professional.  Luckily they pushed it until 8 minutes past curfew. And 23 minutes longer than their scheduled time. Could have also done without the Slash solo and get another song instead 

6 hours ago, SoulMonster said:

Yeah, the same goes for long movies. Just leave. You don't have to wait for the conclusion/finale of the show, for Paradise City and the confetti or when the bad guy is killed. Just leave when you are satisfied.

Well, you can leave, go to the loo, get something to eat, take a nap and come back for Paradise, if that's what you need. Let us others enjoy getting a bang for the buck and as many songs as possible.

8 hours ago, SoulMonster said:

A summary of the three Norwegian reviews I have read:

They all give 4 out of 6 in review. The main problem to the three reviewers is the length of the show. It becomes too long and too varied in quality. As it is stated in one of the reviews, it was a "good party that lasted too long". Still, one reviewer (who also attended Graspop) says the band sounds better than it has in a long time. The sound is great and the band members smiles are have a "good day at work".

Axl's vocals are the weak link in the show and goes from "inspired" to "just good enough". Still, he is credited for being on time, his mood., and his overall performance throughout the concert. Songs where he is particularly praised were Welcome to the Jungle, the end to Rocket Queen, Wichita Lineman (although the song and its placement in the set also makes "people fall asleep") and Civil War. Another reviewer points out that the vocals aren't critical (yet) and that the band should be credited for not resorting to playback vocals like Kiss and Motley Crue.

The band is universally praised, everyone of them (well, Dizzy and Melissa aren't mentioned). The interplay between Richard and Slash is mentioned, Duff's bass and Frank's drumming.

All of the reviewers hate on Absurd ("shit sandwich" and where Axl "inexplicable keeps fondling his crotch"), Slither is referred to as "nothing but a generous gesture to Slash", Street of Dreams is "meaningless", and on Better "everything [with Axl's voice] goes wrong".

On the other hand, Bad Obsession "hits the bull's eye", It's So Easy "suits Axl's low voice", Chinese Democracy is "better than on record", Welcome to The Jungle showcases Axl's "considerable force as a frontman and a vocalist", Reckless Life and Down on the Farm wins on energy, Live and Let Die and You Could Be Mine, together with Rocket Queen, is referred to as a "triumphant trio" for Axl, while another reviewer says that Civil War and Anything Goes are among Axl's best vocal performances, and Estranged is referred to as a "stroke of genius" (I suppose they refer more to the song's qualities than the actual performance), while the performances of Nightrain and Sweet Child O' Mine are "brilliant". 

It is clear that the reviewers would have given this 5 or 6 out of 6 if the band had cut the set with an hour and focused on the songs that work the best (although they don't seem to be in total agreement on what songs should be cut - except for Absurd).

Who cares what one reviewer thinks? Probably not even a fan. For me that show wasn't long enough and I'm a bit miffed that we were short changed due to a stupid curfew (where is the communication between artist and festival?) and they cut out the whole encore and went from Nightrain right into Paradise. Yet gave us the sleep inducing Lineman. The band clearly was into playing the full show and pushed it as far as possible, ending at 8 past 11.