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Bumble talked about how he couldn't book solo tours for his own fans cause he had to be ready to tour with Gn'R when he was needed. For a guy like Bumble, being not able to contribute his own ideas and also not being able to support his own thing with touring seems like pretty major problems. also not being able to put his mark on Gn'R in a proper way. also, I don't think it's the same thing with Slash. He gets to play mostly stuff he came up with or that came from his band (Gn'R) while Bumble had to cover his guitar parts. if Bumble stayed for longer in Gn'R, my guess is he would have been even more unhappy with the situation. For some musicians, not being able to do the regular album/tour cycle without waiting years to do it is not a natural feeling or anything close to ideal. You gotta have the right personality and priorities to last in Gn'R, like Richard for example.

yeah

what does it mean for Bumble to have met them half way?

for some reason, yes. They're still around.

first one that came to my mind was Coma

to be fair though, they were partying with heroin

I don't find that hard to believe cause even if it seems like there was a lot of content there, I suspect that it's a tiny part of what Axl got in his hard drives. At the very least it doesn't represent everything Axl has managed to hoard over the years. Agreed about the intro, it sounds cinematic and horror movie-like which is nice.

yes, I think the orchestral intro that was played live was from The General and no, I really don't think The General and State Of Grace are the same tune.

but we don't have access to all the potential demos of this track that were created after the Locker leaks so maybe the drum fills aren't new.

I come back to listen to live performances of 4 tracks often and I like the album. A lot of really cool tunes, especially instrumentally. The studio versions of Slash's solos are undercooked imo, but live it all sounds pretty damn good. Fall Back To Earth is a highlight for me. The River Is Rising is a fun little tune.

sure, I think it was probably a part of that as well, which is fair imo. In the end, Bumble gave everything he had when he was still in Gn'R imo, to the band and to the fans for 8 years and he's a fairly prolific musician that wasn't really interested in joining Gn'R in the first place, much like Bucket wasn't really into it at first.

pun not intended

I think it was more to do with wanting to truly move forward with writing compeltely new material that he had a hand in from the start and by doing that, being a real part of what I believe he considered every "real" band should act like or the approach Gn'R should have chosen in his eyes. It's understandable imo, if you don't know what you're getting yourself into by joining Gn'R in that era of the band.

heh a ray of sunshine, as always, but that's not the reason why I want to hear The General. reasons: Bach's favorite from what he heard back then Beltrami worked on it orchestra intro sounds menacing it's a Brain song which he said is too good to not be released in general, it's a compeltely new song for me/us compared to the 3 singles that already got released it seems like it's different in style compared to Absurd, HS, and Perhaps, maybe more ambitious in nature which should spice things up

yeah but I think Bumble's suggestion was to start writing from scratch, complete it, and release it one song at a time. Not releasing existing Chinese era material like Gn'R is doing now.

reading the comments on various music sites that focus on rock/hard rock/etc it seems like in the last 5 years or more, most of the comments are positive and a lot of music fans like Chinese and/or recognize the material is strong. people who have no idea Gn'R exist discover them all the time and my guess is that if you're hooked on Gn'R as a new fan, listening to the small catalog and after recovering from the shock of how good AFD/LIES/UYI are, you're probably going to check out Chinese as well after that and maybe with a more open attitude will at least give it a fair chance. imagine kids in 10-15 years not caring about who was in the lineup at the time and listening to tracks like Better or whatever.

one of my favorites from the Chinese era with vocals. I believe it will be released eventually. I think it's a much stronger track compared to Perhaps which is also good, but kinda safe imho, where the vocal melodies of Atlas feel more adventerous for Axl and idk... the vibe of it is its own thing. I can see why Axl wanted to include it on Chinese according to Bumble. It's uplifting everytime I play the leak.

for me (so far) it's: 1. HS 2. Perhaps 3. Absurd

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oh yeah thanks for correcting me. Forgot the studio version of Absurd was on the cd (and cassette) and not on the vinyl version.

there is length limit to the 7" vinyl they're planning to release it on. It's about 10 minutes including both sides.

it was on the same vinyl with HS

Absurd got an actual studio release

yeah the b side doesn't always mean the quality is lower, it's often more of a deep cut

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