kiwiguns

3 minutes ago, CCudder said:

C’mon Frank! You’re killin’ me.

It's has been made very clear that since Duff and Slash joined the band, they have had an influence on setting the tempo of songs played by the band. Not the drummer. 

1 hour ago, WWEROSES said:

I was at both shows for those nights. The second show wasn't advertised as heavily as the night before. Least in my area, (south shore, Cape Cod) they were running adds all over the radio, tv, local papers and the first show sold out without any issue. The second show, there was nothing about it. I've bumped into many people who went to the first show, and most have said they had no idea there was a second show. And they were some people that I talked with that had no idea GN'R was in town for those nights otherwise they would of gone. I think this bad has worse marketing team out of any mainstream nostalgic band. I went to the show in Boston in 2017 and it was sold out. But I remember in my area, it was pretty advertised. 

You know its the local promotor that overseas marketing of shows don't you? i.e Live Nation, and the band having nothing to do with that side of the business. 

The band have a booking agent, who deals with the promotor interms of the negotiations. The booking agent will reach out or be contacted by a promotor based on a promotors belief that their is a demand in a market place (area or country). 

The band would than either have specific requirements or set specific requirements depending on the opportunity. 

I would suspect these up coming  festivals dates and shows were instagated by promoters, reaching out to the bands booking agent to see if they were interested, and if the band were happy with the specifics offered, they would commit.

The other thing you need to take into consideration is the market in the US and were rock music fits into the music industry today. 

All bands that tour the US are struggling to sell out stadiums or arenas, hence the reason why bands are joining together to tour or why festivals are popular and are the new avenue for both a promotor to approach a rock act or for rock bands to appear.

A few years ago most major festivals were based around EDM music, hip hop and pop music. 

The last thing is the US market. Bigger population and more to choose from interms of seeing a live act. 

In New Zealand we are lucky enough these days to see more artists and bands more often as our population grows along with a better quality of stadiums and venues. 

We are now seeing bands sell out 2 - 3 shows with both Fleetwood Mac just completing 3 shows in Auckland and 2 in the South Island.

Metallica have added a second show as the first show capacity 40,000 sold out. 

And Yes if Guns N Roses toured Nz again, you would get 60,000 people as they did in 2017. 

13 minutes ago, estrangedtwat said:

So the only people that are allowed to have an opinion on Guns N Roses would be members of some of the other most successful rock bands of all time?  We're not allowed to say shit unless we've sold 500 million records?

We can all have an opinion, but the shit gets old when it's the same opinion over and over again. It's repeat, rinse and wash with some posters. If these people have an issue with the drumming, the vocals, lead singers body image and set list etc, than these are those peoples issues to deal with. Us fans cannot control Axl's weight, vocals, the tempo of the band, the drummer etc. 

You either accept it or you don't. If you don't that's your problem to deal with.

13 minutes ago, Powderfinger said:

How can Slash play with Frank. That DTJ intro makes me squirm every time. He’s so off the beat it’s terrible. Fuck what Axl looks like. They don’t sound like a band. 

Somewhere in a little pouch, in a bank vault. Axl has one of Slash's and Duffs testicles. Otherwise these guys would not play with frank. 

Thats your opinion, and to be honest, given you aren't a member of the band, your opinion counts for very little. I would recommend you get use to it, as the drummer is not going to change in this line-up. If you have an issue with that, than that's your issue to deal with. 

My understanding from a person at the show, the process of getting in has taken alot longer than expected. People were panicking about missing the start, but people were told, the band was delaying until a majority of the people had cleared and entered. 

The guy said, when the show starts he will resume streaming. 

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https://www.pscp.tv/w/cFbtsTF3QkVBWW5WWWdXRVB8MU1ZR05Qdnl6cHZ4d7EJCfrfVtmfdnb-B8GJ3F-ZH6yJWxKu9QX-nvVOE9jX?t=9s

Unfortunately I don't arrive in the US until a few days after this show. At least the band are active and everything is on track for the festival shows. Looking forward to seeing the band in Austin. Really excited to see the band play live again, after last seeing them in Auckland, NZ in 2017. Probably be the last time we see GNR in NZ, due to the distance. Its taken 3 years for Metallica to arrive in NZ for their current tour, so maybe I have some hope, that GNR will play in NZ again , so I don't need to travel the world to see the band live. 

8 hours ago, Sydney Fan said:

Agree. The success with the  band over the last 3 years isnt due to current managenent. Its the mystique this band has created over time.  When gnr management want to merchadise a laundry bag and toy trucks you have to ask "why" . Also fernando bad mouthing slash during the CD years was not in his place , whether he is family or gnr management. Axl must be aware of the youtube takedowns and i wonder what sort of information tB spoon feed him. For a band of this magnitude, i dont think highly of them.

And what exactly can Axl or TB do to prevent content being removed from YouTube by fans, that are not connected to the band or its management in any shape of form. Question. What can you do, to prevent the take down of the content yourself, as Axl and TB are in the same position. The issue of the takes downs is between YouTube and the people requesting the content to be removed. Axl and TB are in the same position as Nascar, who's copyright content is being removed at the request of a fan, to benefit their own agenda and YouTube channel for profit. 

TB manages the bands business affairs. The record label controls the music element and the bands booking agent manages the booking of shows and dealing with promoters. 

Album sells is not were the money is made today. Touring, merchadise and other avenues is were bands and artists make their money in the music industry. Why do you think pop stars these days do 360 deals with live nation that includes touring, merchadise and externally purfume and clothing lines. 

You don't give enough credit to these guys and act as if they are children. Adults work out differences and compromise to make things work for all individuals involved. Given that fact that Axl and Slash have reconciled, I would assume both have compromised on past issues and moved forward. However they choose to progress with new music, these guys have been around the industry and experienced all aspects both good and bad. I am sure Slash is fully aware of what he is getting himself into. 

There is no factual evidence to suggest the band line up won't be any different from the line up that's been in place for the last few year's. Some fans are speculating based on curtain band members not being mentioned via social media tags. if some fans think any different, than you will be left very disappointed come 28th September.

Funny how we live in a world in which we define one's current employment status based on a instagram tag. It could be that Richard is human and just forgot. 

i am not sure what the issue is. All bands and their members as a bussines, would have in place some form of contract and most band members would be deemed employees or business partners. This belief that these guys are playing together for fun as they did in 1986 or by signing a record contract on a napkin are long gone. It is the best way to protect yourself from any litigation or to protect your own interests. 

I would think most of us have employment contracts in place as you have your legal rights protected as employees.

if you are like me, who own a bussines in a partnership, you would have an agreement or contract in place with your partners or shareholders.

it does not matter in todays world who specifically  is a partner or employee. 

All currently involved, would be smart enough to have these structures in place.

You would be nuts in this day and age , to not be protecting yourself or your business.

On 16/08/2019 at 10:13 AM, sidman69 said:

team brazil is aware of it and are eight complacent or don't care. 

They cannot control what is happening. Do you really think they would waste there time for a few people that take issue with this situation that post on a fan forum. The people that are taking issue with this are a handful of fans on a fan forum. You don't cut off the power to an entire city, to fix a faulty wall socket in a single home ie don't get involved in things you cannot control or change. This issue effects all aspects of uploading content on YouTube. The takedown of content is occurring across a number different types of content including sports. The reailty is its a YouTube issue, and there is nothing TB can do about it.

Nascar was made aware of there copy right content being removed from YouTube by a fan, and have made it clear, that there is nothing they can do, as YouTube is a third party. The issue is between YouTube and the people applying to have the content removed officially  authorised  or not. 

It's funny, how some of you as fans, have convinced yourselves that the current drummer needs to go, or for a million other reasons ex band members need to return or are in fact coming back, based on personal opinions, with no facts to back any of these theories up, or are under the impression what they say on a fan message board is going to change anything the band does with its current line up. 

I suppose that's what happens when you spend your life in a fan forum, you come to believe you are part of the bands world and what you say counts.

Its does not matter. You guys have no control of what the band, current members or past members do in relation to their involvement in the band, just like Axl, Duff, Slash, Richard, Melissa, Frank, Dizzy or Izzy have no control over what you guys do in life. 

19 pages currently, this thread could go to 100 pages but nothing will change. It is, what it is. 

7 hours ago, Tom-Ass said:

There are a few complete, no  class, low life losers on this board.  To start using this incident as a amo in your argument of whether Steven should not be in the band or not is pretty disgusting. How about some basic human fucking decency?

How about you showing some respect to others with a different opinion than yours. Or does that only work one way for you when it comes to your opinion, as you seem hell bent on belittling current band members including the current rhythm guitarist and a keyboard player.

A hypocrite preaches one thing, and does another. 

Wrong information at the time was provided in terms of Mr Adler's condition. It happenes. Its been corrected and life moves on.

Many including myself were simply giving an opinion and an option to a possible action and situation at the time. 

The difference between me and you is, I can admit when I am wrong. 

Hope Mr Adler recovers and is in a good place in life. 

20 minutes ago, adamsapple said:

Get well soon Steven!

Kitchen knife in one hand, glass of wine in the other, dog in the way, slipping - BOOM! Could actually just be nothing but an accident.

Or to draw attention, to a person in need of help..

I think, that's something that needs to be considered given a history of drug abuse. 

I woud think, that's what the paramedics and doctors would have factored in, when dealing with the patient. 

24 minutes ago, RONIN said:

No one hates Puff here - but he deserves our scorn at the moment because he's acting like a clown. He's turned into the Gene Simmons of the band. Atleast Simmons owns that he's a sell-out unlike Duff who talks about his punk cred every chance he gets. Post VR-Duff is all about the loot. I bet he's still kicking himself for quitting in '97 - probably wishes he could have done those 15 years of endless AFD/Chinese Democracy tours with Axl.

I don't no why some of you get court up in this stuff, given its does not effect you or is it personally being directed at you. 

Don't take things personal. If you don't like Duffs opinions, that's all good. 

It seems you guys want band members to speak, but only what some of you want to hear. 

You people cannot control what Duff does or says, just like he cannot control what you post about him. 

The funny thing is, Duff won't be wasting his time on worrying about what a few people post on a fan forum. 

As you can see by his twitter account he is getting on with life. 

Duff would be laughing his arse off at some of you being so concerned about what he is saying. 

Have you not heard of the meaning, of having the last laugh.

1 hour ago, Pele said:

It's all very well you feel like that.

It doesn't change the fact that if you post an opinion that he disagrees with on the official GNR forum, you run the risk of being stalked, doxxed and your family and work getting bothered.

Again, I state. I personally am removed from the situation as I don't submerge myself in the world of GNR fan forums. 

I come here to this forum to be updated on GNR related content only involving the band. 

All mentioned above are separate issues and matters, removed from what the issue at hand is, of copyright content being removed from YouTube. As a fan not submerged in the GNR fan forum world, I am simply trying to understand whether the band or its management are involved in the take downs given earlier in the thread that was the theory provided , that they were. If they aren't involved and the theory is another entity is  behind it, than the band nor its management should be referenced. That's called being objective as an outsider looking in. 

16 minutes ago, BlueJean Baby said:

@kiwiguns Racism is not something that should ever be condoned nor allowed on the official forum, under any circumstances. 

Thats a separate issue, I am simply trying to understand whether the band or its management are involved officially in removing copyright content.