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This youtube channel is totally unreliable.

Lol, they have a link to a fake The General that I hadn't heard before

It could be easier for him now exactly because there's nothing at stake and not much to prove or lose. And he seems a bit more confident in the last few years. He has done guest spots, live and in the studio, and solo appearances (even if it was just singing November Rain at private parties).

Slipknot played last night and it looks like Muse is playing tonight as scheduled. https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/slipknot/2023/foro-pegaso-toluca-mexico-5ba1abe4.html It seems that the festival screwed the local and smaller bands, which sucks.

Yes, but he didn't see it that way and he did it under the GN'R name. I'm thinking it more along the lines of him doing something outside the GN'R name.

Although, to me, some of these CD "leftovers" are better than even half of CD - especially these last ones are up there with the best songs on CD - I completely agree about letting that era go. It has dragged on for so long that it's ridiculous. It's crazy to think that Axl told Bach in 2006 that The General would be released in 2012 and that looked so far in the future, and that song is being released in 2023 (better late than never and it's great that these songs are being released, but...). I wish Axl just decided to finally close that chapter by putting everything out within, say, the next year (first the rest of the rehashed songs by Slash and Duff, and then all the original demos etc. in a box set or even just a digital package). I wouldn't go as far as to say that it could be good if they disappeared, but as much as I want them to write new music (which is mostly being curious to see if they can do it and what they can do), I would be equally, if not more, interested in Axl doing something outside of GN'R and even if he let go of GN'R completely, e.g. if he went solo or wrote instrumental music or became a producer etc. But of course I don't expect any of that to happen. I just expect them to slowly release the rest of the reworked CD era songs and continue touring, probably after a one or two year long break, as long as Axl's voice holds up to a level of weak-hitting the high notes. After that, it will probably be the time that he opens the vault of the classic era (we've already gotten something, though - the Ritz blu-ray was awesome). I think that the UYI movie will eventually see the light of the day, even earlier than that. The main issue with it is not the controversial stuff (they can easily censor it, after all), but that it appears that it exists only in the form of, likely, hundreds of hours of unedited footage. So they would need to hire someone to go through all that and edit it, and then sit with them and choose what they want to be in it. As far as the near future, I expect more or less the same that has happened before when GN'R took a break from touring: Slash and Duff will be out there doing stuff and Axl will disappear from the public eye, or maybe he'll show up at another Carrie Underwood show. I'm curious to see what he has recorded for that Schenker album. I'm also interested in hearing what Slash has done with his new "blues-oriented" solo album - and they super tiny chance of Axl being on it would be something to be excited about.

That wasn't exactly what Bach said, though. He said that Axl had told him that The General would be on the third album, because the lyrics related to other songs that were going to be on that third album.

Yes. And according to Brain, The General and Seven were written during the months leading to the House of Blues show when band members were told to bring in new material to the band. So Axl was looking to collect even more songs in late 2000, which might have something to do with Bob Ezrin's "verdict" that the songs he already had were not good enough.

I think it's safe to say that Monsters and Atlas are guaranteed to be released at one point or another (not necessarily together - I still think that The General and Monsters are tied together (not as "one song", of course) or at least were going to be released together, but the plan changed probably due to the poor quality of the vinyl pressing. Beyond that, State of Grace is a strong contender (the fact that we haven't heard about it doesn't mean it has been abandoned). And then, if that thing they were playing at soundcheck last year was a song, it's probably another song we haven't heard before.

There are other pictures like that from these shows. Probably something to do with the angle the pictures were taken (very close to the stage and upwards).

Yes, there's a lot of great pictures of Axl from this tour This is among the best ones, I think (from Denmark in June):

I have posted pictures from the first Hollywood Bowl show, too, if anyone is interested: https://www.mygnrforum.com/topic/226290-110123-los-angeles-ca-the-hollywood-bowl/?do=findComment&comment=5047734 https://www.mygnrforum.com/topic/226290-110123-los-angeles-ca-the-hollywood-bowl/?do=findComment&comment=5047758 https://www.mygnrforum.com/topic/226290-110123-los-angeles-ca-the-hollywood-bowl/?do=findComment&comment=5046521

They definitely started reworking CD era material before the locker leaks. Slash went to record in Axl's studio in April 2019 and the leaks started happening in the summer of that year.

The Black Keys (and Andrei...) watching the show

https://www.instagram.com/tylertantrum/ https://www.instagram.com/alonerpirate/ https://www.instagram.com/tako217/

Yes, it was in two different articles that reported about Axl's conversation with fans at pool side in Rio 2001: https://www.a-4-d.com/t1683-2001-01-16-o-globo-axl-talks-at-pool-side https://www.a-4-d.com/t7429-2001-mm-dd-rolling-stone-argentina-axl-rose-fifteen-days-in-the-life I'm really wondering how fans made the connection between that mention of a song about child abuse and The General, considering that Bach's comment about it being the sequel to Estranged didn't hint to this subject matter. Was it just due to Evader's interpretation or was there a rumour before that?

I think Ratam meant that that there was no comments in the articles about the lyrical subject matter.

Photos part 3 https://www.instagram.com/tylertantrum/ https://www.instagram.com/alonerpirate/ https://www.instagram.com/lias1229/

Eddie Trunk said that Slash told him off the record a few weeks ago that this last leg has been his favourite since 2016.

https://www.instagram.com/tako217/ https://www.instagram.com/lias1229/

If the liner notes on CD is anything to go by, it looks that Axl used vocals that were mainly recorded by Sean Beavan between 1999-2000 (the majority of the songs on the album) and by Caram (Better, This I Love, Sorry, Shackler's Revenge, Scraped). If I'm not mistaken, RTB, who was the producer from around spring 2000 to the end of 2001, is not credited for recording/engineering on any songs (but I have to look in the album credits again to be sure), so the Caram recorded vocals must be from 2002 or later and Axl didn't use vocals recorded in the RTB era.. There's also a credit for Beavan on Perhaps. There are no credits for Hard Skool, but it's safe to say that the vocals on that were recorded by Beavan as well. Since The General wasn't around yet during Beavan's tenure and the tracks Beltrami worked on in the summer of 2002 didn't have vocals, the vocals must have been recorded sometime later in 2002 or maybe in 2003.

It's not anything concrete, just something some fans have assumed, but I can't remember which was the second instrumental from the locker leaks they were referring to (and it's been a while since I've listened to all those).

The reunion seems to have been originally only about touring, so 2016-2017 was the "reunion (nostalgia) tour". But regarding after 2018, yes, they could have done all this sooner. I think Slash wanted to release and tour "Living the Dream" which had already been semi-recorded but was pushed back because of the reunion, and Duff wanted to do solo stuff too. In 2019 they started rehashing the CD leftovers and 2020 would have been the year of starting releasing them, but Covid came, so it was all delayed and Slash recorded another SMKC album. The problem is the very slow pace these are being released (two songs in 2021, nothing in 2022 and then two more in 2023), which, combined with the fact that the first two songs that were released in 2021 were songs we had heard made a portion of the diehard fans lose faith. And, of course, the elephant in the room is writing brand new material, which hasn't happened yet. Slash said that in 2022 (October), but was definitely talking about the 2023 tour: Slash: Well, I mean, I want to go in and cut a whole brand new record at some point, probably sooner than later. But other than that, we have stuff that we still got to come out, so that’s gonna be coming out piecemeal over the next… I don’t know, over the next few months or something like that. So that’s basically it. We have one more tour left to do next summer, and then that will free us up to be able to go in and work on a new record. So, you know, I’ll keep you posted. https://www.a-4-d.com/t7509-2022-10-19-sirius-xm-s-trunk-nation-interview-with-slash

I would love that. I think that's what they should do if they write new material. And they should absolutely record a studio version of Wichita Lineman. The live rendition is excellent.

Shackler existed in the locker leaks as a raw instrumental (titled "Shancler's Revenge"). It was developed at some point later and combined with another Buckethead tune (don't remember which one). Definitely that was long before Ashba was in the band. Ashba joined after CD was released.