Could Chidem make a comeback??

[Naupis]

There will be no comeback for CD. There is no hit single on this album, never has been.

Some of you talk about an Appetite like comeback. That would be possible if there were a WTTJ,SCOM or PC city somewhere on the album. There is not though.

It is a solid album, but in the absence of a hit single it is going to stay dead and buried.

Any effort Axl puts in to futily trying to revive this album would be much better spent on putting out something else that has a legit chance to be successful. CD was released over 18 months ago, it is old news. To Axl it may be new news because he sat on his ass for a year, but unfortunately the world did not stop during that time and albums in 2010 don't make comebacks when they have been on the shelf that long without the presence of a WTTJ like single to get them back in the popular consciousness.

[RussTCB]

With all this talk of Axl planning grand music videos later in the year and a documentary of the tour(and an actual tour), it seems that promotion may finally be underway. Question is, can Chidem climb back up the charts like Appetite did? From what i hear, Appetite took quite a while to get off the ground and it was only after they got MTV to play welcome to the jungle at 3am, then Sweet child came out and well we know the story. How long was appetite out before it became a "hit"? Similar to Moby's album Play. In its first week it sold something like 6000 copies worldwide 6 months later it re-entered the UK charts and hit number one, selling 2 million copies in the states and 10 million worldwide(this was before the big piracy thing of course). Can Chidem do the same or similar with grand videos and real promo?! Please let it happen!

Yes

[Olorin]

"Chinese Democracy will make a comeback..."

[karlossacanell]

I disagree, the songs ARE there; have you listened to the shit put out in the last year?

The songs are there, yes, but there is only one song with the potential to be a hit: Better. And you definitley need a hit to get CD back in the spotlight. With a good video and at least some promotion it could go well, but it was already released, so...

Better, CITR, TIL, Madagascar...

[mcalldp]

I disagree, the songs ARE there; have you listened to the shit put out in the last year?

The songs are there, yes, but there is only one song with the potential to be a hit: Better. And you definitley need a hit to get CD back in the spotlight. With a good video and at least some promotion it could go well, but it was already released, so...

Better, CITR, TIL, Madagascar...

Agree, even The Blues (Not my favorite cut) could have mass appeal to a particular base. Even with Appetite, the songs were not hits because they were popular in the same vein as what was going on at the time, they made themselves popular even though they were different. This is why the watered down rock of Cinderella and such were struck dead by AFD, the public was over all that crap.

There is a vacuum out there now that would allow these songs to create their own space as new popular music if promoted as such. Better is a good example, it's got sections that are much harder than your average current radio hit but it's still so catchy that it could cut into what's popular now. Again, I think proper promoting could make a turd popular (and has many times). With solid music (which CD has), it could be much more widely accepted if the promotion was spot on but the glass ceiling will be lower (compared to AFD) due to downloads...that's the state of the industry right now.....just my thoughts.

Edited March 10, 2010 by mcalldp

[ManetsBR]

A new release would be the best option! But I hope Chidem makes a counter strike!

[Powerage5]

I would love to see CD get what it deserves, but going on a year and a half, it seems unlikely. I'd say tour the fuck out of it this year to build back up the reputation of the GN'R name, put finishing touched on the next album this winter and into early 2011, and drop the new album next year.

[axlfan88]

Without a hit single it can't come back.

And there's no hit single on CD. So it won't come back.

[bodine]

Whether it's CD or its follow-up, how successful it is will depend on promo... I think they're moving in the right direction with the tour so far (no cancellations/riots, earlier start times, Twitter updates, etc.). The question I have though, is concerning interviews. When Axl did his chats, he said something to the effect of "for better or worse, interviews are scheduled for 'much later'." I think getting himself out there for some of these would do a world of good. Do you think Axl will ever again sit down for a bona-fide interview, or will he just do email interviews, occasional chats, orchestrated Del James "interviews" and the like for the remainder of his career? And do you think it would make a difference?

[YOUCOULDBEMINE.]

Without a hit single it can't come back.

And there's no hit single on CD. So it won't come back.

europe and south america obviously think otherwise

[mcalldp]

Whether it's CD or its follow-up, how successful it is will depend on promo... I think they're moving in the right direction with the tour so far (no cancellations/riots, earlier start times, Twitter updates, etc.). The question I have though, is concerning interviews. When Axl did his chats, he said something to the effect of "for better or worse, interviews are scheduled for 'much later'." I think getting himself out there for some of these would do a world of good. Do you think Axl will ever again sit down for a bona-fide interview, or will he just do email interviews, occasional chats, orchestrated Del James "interviews" and the like for the remainder of his career? And do you think it would make a difference?

In terms of pure commercialism? Yes it makes a difference. If he shows up on a late show and plays a number and then interviews vs some off-hand Del interview? Yea, huge audience difference. For the core fans does it matter? To me...not so much.

Axlfan88, I have to disagree...a ripe turd could be made into a single these days with the right promotion. The stuff on Chi Dem is far above turd level ;-)

Edited March 10, 2010 by mcalldp

[GNR123GNR456]

It could make a comeback, but it's not gonna be huge like I though it was going to be when it first came out. As much as I love the album, it was a huge shock to the music world because everyone though it was gonna be huge, but it was a, do I dare say it, flop. There are potential hit singles (Better, Madagascar,TWAT,This I Love, Street of Dreams) but the lack of promotion when it first came out in '08 really killed the possiblity for it to be a huge comeback album for Axl and GN'R. Unless they start to releasing video's, a possible documentarry and a live DVD would help the band and the album.

But if they get proper promotion, like it seems their doing, getting videos and touring the hell out of the album and releasing a documentary and hopefully a live DVD will really help the band to get back to where they were before, on top of the world. The band has huge potential to be huge again. I'm happy that the tour is going great, the may have some videos on the way and the bandmates are more active (Axl with a twitter!) but I really hope they either make Chinese Democracy huge or release Chinese Deomcracy II in the near future.

[bodine]

Whether it's CD or its follow-up, how successful it is will depend on promo... I think they're moving in the right direction with the tour so far (no cancellations/riots, earlier start times, Twitter updates, etc.). The question I have though, is concerning interviews. When Axl did his chats, he said something to the effect of "for better or worse, interviews are scheduled for 'much later'." I think getting himself out there for some of these would do a world of good. Do you think Axl will ever again sit down for a bona-fide interview, or will he just do email interviews, occasional chats, orchestrated Del James "interviews" and the like for the remainder of his career? And do you think it would make a difference?

In terms of pure commercialism? Yes it makes a difference. If he shows up on a late show and plays a number and then interviews vs some off-hand Del interview? Yea, huge audience difference. For the core fans does it matter? To me...not so much.

Sure, commercialism is what I was talking about... Here, we're already sold on it. So the term "comeback" doesn't really make any sense when used in the context of GNR's "core fan" base. I assume this thread is referring to a comeback in terms of general popularity.

[Chris 55]

What’s really odd, is I get the impression Robin, Bucket, Brain won’t feat. In any video, and people such as DJ, will, and he isn’t even on Chinese Democracy. I wonder how they’ work around that one.

Hey, it worked for Gilby

[jellyzero]

Same way they worked around Izzy in the "November Rain" video and every following video release from UYI.

[bodine]

What’s really odd, is I get the impression Robin, Bucket, Brain won’t feat. In any video, and people such as DJ, will, and he isn’t even on Chinese Democracy. I wonder how they’ work around that one.

Hey, it worked for Gilby

I supose so.

I hope they make proper videos, and not live footage lash up's.

It seems that's the plan, right?

http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=161006&st=0

[Oh My God]

Keep touring thats all they need before you know it CD will top the charts .

[amacfantasy]

since this basically lackluster launch of CD in particular in the US i have always been thinking of this that CD could make this comback mabye years later, now i dont think it would be on the scale of AFD just because of the differences in the industry in these decades since and for the fact that then GNR was a new band. But with the tour finally getting its stride on over the world, and if the next Volume of CD (or whatever u want to call it) comes out this 4th quarter or sometime near there with the USA leg of the tour going on around that time with what now we here might be epic music videos and documentarys to support it this could get good! it would in a sense be like two new albums but really not if you know what i mean

[Arkham17]

i hope so!!... but nothing like AFD

[SunnyDRE]

No.

Not without the Radio, and DJ always ask, where is Slash.

[plonker88]

Anything is possible. It deserves a wider recognition, I have no doubt in that.

[bigcountry]

There is NO possible way CD could sell as much as AFD different time and by this a mean letts face it one reason AFD sold so many copies was most people bought it on tape or record format first the cd was just starting to catch on and when it did most people bought it in cd format and inflated the sales numbers for albums like AFD and Back in Black just to name a couple.

CD still would not sell like AFD even with a major media change right now just a different time in music.

I am going to catch alot of flack for this but bands today need another media change to survive. By this a mean something secure and not hackable it can be and will be done one day. It has too or quallity new music will just fade away like it has over the last several years. All the record companies are banking on now a days is a sure thing. Just image if piracy was a problem when GNR came out now, we wouldn't even have a forum for them because the record company would have waited on the album to take off and also ponder this how many GNR type bands have we missed because of piracy. I burn cd's too but if they cut me off and would be back out buying more music than I do now.

[Lose Your Illusions]

dont know dont care.

all i care about is that i love CD, alot of fans love CD, and thats fine with me.

could it sell moree with videos? of course.

CD's already over one year old, with talk of another album popping up here and there, lets focus on the future.

dont u fuckers try to stop us now! B)

[AxlRose14]

With all this talk of Axl planning grand music videos later in the year and a documentary of the tour(and an actual tour), it seems that promotion may finally be underway. Question is, can Chidem climb back up the charts like Appetite did? From what i hear, Appetite took quite a while to get off the ground and it was only after they got MTV to play welcome to the jungle at 3am, then Sweet child came out and well we know the story. How long was appetite out before it became a "hit"? Similar to Moby's album Play. In its first week it sold something like 6000 copies worldwide 6 months later it re-entered the UK charts and hit number one, selling 2 million copies in the states and 10 million worldwide(this was before the big piracy thing of course). Can Chidem do the same or similar with grand videos and real promo?! Please let it happen!

YES. It could. But they need to start releasing videos and do a little more promo for the album or it just won't work. Yes the album can be saved, but it's up to Axl. YES AXL, IT IS UP TO YOU.

[Dangelus]

If Nickeback's All The Right Reasons can be out for over a year in the UK before getting to no.1 then Chinese Democracy definitly can - and in this country I think videos DO make a difference.