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Just visited gunsnroses.com

Still the same photo of guitarist DJ Ashba that's been on there since he joined the band.

..and out of date tour news?

where is the band now?

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:shrugs:

kinda wierd , either update the .com site or ditch it ??? i dunno why its just left hanging

there's some shit about MLB running the site or whatever and not GN'R themselves, so it's kinda ditched but as said, their facebook is frequently updated

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there's some shit about MLB running the site or whatever and not GN'R themselves, so it's kinda ditched but as said, their facebook is frequently updated

Isn't Axl a millionaire? Can't he just buy MLB out?

If I were one of the former members I'd be pretty pissed-off regarding Axl's mis-management of the brand name.

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MLB doesn't own the site.

They own the bandwith and space.

Back in the day, MLB bought up a ton of web space in preparation to be the first sport to broadcast all of its games online.

Then time moved on, they didn't get the project done and so they eventually rented/sold off the space. That's why MLB is listed as the owner.

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MLB doesn't own the site.

They own the bandwith and space.

Back in the day, MLB bought up a ton of web space in preparation to be the first sport to broadcast all of its games online.

Then time moved on, they didn't get the project done and so they eventually rented/sold off the space. That's why MLB is listed as the owner.

i'm confused. by mlb owning the bandwidth/space, wouldn't that just mean that they own some servers or something; and gunsnroses.com is hosted by them? maybe i'm off, but this is my understanding of what you said. no?

also, who really looks toward bands' official sites anymore? Isn't it pretty much all either myspace - for the music part of it - and facebook - for the informational part of it? I'd imagine it's just cheaper overall for a band to keep their online headquarters with facebook or myspace. Plus, if that's where Axl has more control/feels more comfortable communicating, then good.

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also, who really looks toward bands' official sites anymore? Isn't it pretty much all either myspace - for the music part of it - and facebook - for the informational part of it? I'd imagine it's just cheaper overall for a band to keep their online headquarters with facebook or myspace. Plus, if that's where Axl has more control/feels more comfortable communicating, then good.

Oh please :rolleyes:

This is what real bands have for websites:

http://www.u2.com/index/home/

http://pearljam.com/

http://www.radiohead.com/deadairspace/

http://www.redhotchilipeppers.com/

http://hellonasty.beastieboys.com/reissuecontest/contestmain.html

http://aliceinchains.com/

http://www.greenday.com/wired_splash/index.html

http://nin.com/

http://metallica.com/

http://www.mastodonrocks.com/

etc.

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also, who really looks toward bands' official sites anymore? Isn't it pretty much all either myspace - for the music part of it - and facebook - for the informational part of it? I'd imagine it's just cheaper overall for a band to keep their online headquarters with facebook or myspace. Plus, if that's where Axl has more control/feels more comfortable communicating, then good.

Oh please :rolleyes:

This is what real bands have for websites:

http://www.u2.com/index/home/

http://pearljam.com/

http://www.radiohead.com/deadairspace/

http://www.redhotchilipeppers.com/

http://hellonasty.beastieboys.com/reissuecontest/contestmain.html

http://aliceinchains.com/

http://www.greenday.com/wired_splash/index.html

http://nin.com/

http://metallica.com/

http://www.mastodonrocks.com/

etc.

Yeah but the thing is, is that GN'R > all those bands :D

But no, on the rilla though: I'd be interested to see how the traffic compares between monthly visitors to those websites versus the myspaces & facebooks held by them. Would bet the ms/fb were more.

Haven't checked out any of those sites, but I'm sure they're really nice looking, regardless.

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also, who really looks toward bands' official sites anymore? Isn't it pretty much all either myspace - for the music part of it - and facebook - for the informational part of it? I'd imagine it's just cheaper overall for a band to keep their online headquarters with facebook or myspace. Plus, if that's where Axl has more control/feels more comfortable communicating, then good.

Oh please :rolleyes:

This is what real bands have for websites:

http://www.u2.com/index/home/

http://pearljam.com/

http://www.radiohead.com/deadairspace/

http://www.redhotchilipeppers.com/

http://hellonasty.beastieboys.com/reissuecontest/contestmain.html

http://aliceinchains.com/

http://www.greenday.com/wired_splash/index.html

http://nin.com/

http://metallica.com/

http://www.mastodonrocks.com/

etc.

Yeah but the thing is, is that GN'R > all those bands :D

But no, on the rilla though: I'd be interested to see how the traffic compares between monthly visitors to those websites versus the myspaces & facebooks held by them. Would bet the ms/fb were more.

Haven't checked out any of those sites, but I'm sure they're really nice looking, regardless.

wow dude, you really are clueless, aren't you?

The fact is that a band can do far more with a website than myspace/facebook, which are really limited in that they only allow posting of information and links to videos. if you look at any of the above websites, you'll see that the bands are using them in much better ways than these.

another great one is (and has been for over a decade now) www.nin.com

the problem is that GNR is under terribly poor management... mostly because axl has delegated most responsibilities to the "yes men" around him, like del, beta, and fernando. obviously, none of these people has the intelligence to get on with the website already.

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also, who really looks toward bands' official sites anymore? Isn't it pretty much all either myspace - for the music part of it - and facebook - for the informational part of it? I'd imagine it's just cheaper overall for a band to keep their online headquarters with facebook or myspace. Plus, if that's where Axl has more control/feels more comfortable communicating, then good.

Oh please :rolleyes:

This is what real bands have for websites:

http://www.u2.com/index/home/

http://pearljam.com/

http://www.radiohead.com/deadairspace/

http://www.redhotchilipeppers.com/

http://hellonasty.beastieboys.com/reissuecontest/contestmain.html

http://aliceinchains.com/

http://www.greenday.com/wired_splash/index.html

http://nin.com/

http://metallica.com/

http://www.mastodonrocks.com/

etc.

Yeah but the thing is, is that GN'R > all those bands :D

But no, on the rilla though: I'd be interested to see how the traffic compares between monthly visitors to those websites versus the myspaces & facebooks held by them. Would bet the ms/fb were more.

Haven't checked out any of those sites, but I'm sure they're really nice looking, regardless.

wow dude, you really are clueless, aren't you?

The fact is that a band can do far more with a website than myspace/facebook, which are really limited in that they only allow posting of information and links to videos. if you look at any of the above websites, you'll see that the bands are using them in much better ways than these.

another great one is (and has been for over a decade now) www.nin.com

the problem is that GNR is under terribly poor management... mostly because axl has delegated most responsibilities to the "yes men" around him, like del, beta, and fernando. obviously, none of these people has the intelligence to get on with the website already.

i'm not arguing that facebooks and myspaces can do more in terms of functionality than regular websites; they obviously can't and that is a given. i'm talking about the traffic itself. meaning, which of the two options: [a] band website vs. band facebook/myspace, is browsed more frequently by fans. I would wager with confidence that it is option .

also, i really think it's unfair to call people like Del/Beta/Fernando "yes men." "Yes men" is generally a derogatory term used to describe people that really don't give a damn about their boss/master; they just always give the "Yes, great idea" because they know a pay check is attached to it. The three people you've named, I'm pretty sure, are like family to Axl and I doubt very seriously those people are just "along for the ride." Plus, I'm pretty sure it's not like they're all some sort of invalids or something who cannot possibly function without Axl. Fernando has a bachelor's degree from some school in California, plus industry experience at Sanctuary. Beta has two huge names as references on her resume (Seymour, Axl) as a nanny & personal assistant, and Del James is Del friggan James. Guy knows just about everyone in the heavy music industry plus he's authored a bunch of books. These people don't need Axl Rose to survive professionally - they choose to stick around because they're family. Same way you or I stick around our own families.

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also, who really looks toward bands' official sites anymore? Isn't it pretty much all either myspace - for the music part of it - and facebook - for the informational part of it? I'd imagine it's just cheaper overall for a band to keep their online headquarters with facebook or myspace. Plus, if that's where Axl has more control/feels more comfortable communicating, then good.

Oh please :rolleyes:

This is what real bands have for websites:

http://www.u2.com/index/home/

http://pearljam.com/

http://www.radiohead.com/deadairspace/

http://www.redhotchilipeppers.com/

http://hellonasty.beastieboys.com/reissuecontest/contestmain.html

http://aliceinchains.com/

http://www.greenday.com/wired_splash/index.html

http://nin.com/

http://metallica.com/

http://www.mastodonrocks.com/

etc.

>metallica

>real band

:o

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There is no one driving the GNR "bus" promotionally..we know that for years now...thus no real website, no videos, no singles, no big tv interviews, no major magazine articles...

Getting the CD out and touring are as good as it gets given the way the operation runs. We should be counting ourselves lucky to have what we have.

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also, who really looks toward bands' official sites anymore? Isn't it pretty much all either myspace - for the music part of it - and facebook - for the informational part of it? I'd imagine it's just cheaper overall for a band to keep their online headquarters with facebook or myspace. Plus, if that's where Axl has more control/feels more comfortable communicating, then good.

Oh please :rolleyes:

This is what real bands have for websites:

http://www.u2.com/index/home/

http://pearljam.com/

http://www.radiohead.com/deadairspace/

http://www.redhotchilipeppers.com/

http://hellonasty.beastieboys.com/reissuecontest/contestmain.html

http://aliceinchains.com/

http://www.greenday.com/wired_splash/index.html

http://nin.com/

http://metallica.com/

http://www.mastodonrocks.com/

etc.

>metallica

>real band

:o

>implying Metallica is not a real band while having no problem with Green Day

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Maybe Axl forgot the password? <_<

And as for explaining the MLB thing, yeah, maybe they own the "server" is a better way to put it.

I found out about that from a book written by the Deadspin creator - and how the MLB has made some knee-jerk, overreactions the past couple decades.

Like buying wayyyy too much server/web space before they knew what they were doing!

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Yeah, the Pearl Jam site is a great example of what a band (or their management) can do to give their fans information and other cool things. It has a great set of forums, and encyclopaedic collection of information about their music - from every song they've ever played live (including covers), to how many times a certain song has been played live inc. where and when, and also setlists from every show they've played. Their merch is always up to date on the site, and one of the best features which I haven't heard of many bands doing, is the fact that you can download pretty much any of their concerts (within a recent timeframe of when it was played). Of course this costs money, but not a great deal. After all, they've got to pay someone to mix and master each one, and that equates to a 30 track double live album. Recent example was that I saw them on 25th June at Hyde Park, and yesterday I had in my hand a high quality CD of that show with a cool collectors' cardboard case. Loads of other cool things as well that FB and MS can't offer.

What do you get from GN'R? A token live album with some average performances of certain songs that they only put out because they had contractual obligations to release an record, and the odd clip on the site which is generally in th public domain anyway (Download 2006 clips that were on Kerrang etc).

So the point I'm making, is that website offer much more than myspace/facebook, and if you're a fan of the band you're more likely to go to their website... as long at it's up to scratch!!

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If Axl owns the domain gunsnroses.com can't he just point it to an entirely different server?

That's what I thought... I don't see how them owning the servers stops GN'R from operating the site anyway - it's a mystery to me.

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