Count Drugcula Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Does anyone find the vocal montage of MLK, Cool Hand Luke and a whole bunch of other people and movies a bit much? The song is a very strong song as is, so I don't see why all of that stuff needed to be added, it just feels like it's hitting you over the head with the song's already clear and simple message. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 does it need to be there? no, it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 The vocal montage is the main reason I skip over Madagascar when I'm listening to CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UK SUBS Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 It's been that long since I listened to that song I can hardly remember but yeah, the mix isn't great.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmellThePoppies Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 As much as I admire Axl's music talent , sometimes he overdoes it , Breakdown is another good idea ,too busy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desperado Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I think it's awesome... but it would have been more awesome if buckethead or Ron hade played a guitar solo over that whole part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 (edited) Does anyone still have the version of Madagascar without the vocal montage? If so, please upload it! Edited March 7, 2011 by sofine11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Buckethead's solo could be a bit higher in the mix, but I still like the vocal montage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ITW 2012 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I've always liked it. Wouldn't mind hearing a remix with just Bucket's solo though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eye2eye Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Nah I love it how it it's. Rock Band has version without samples but is isn't that good, Buckethead did great job and I agree guitar could be higher but those vocals make this song much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NewGNRnOldGNR Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I think with “Chinese Democracy”, it's best to approach it with a “Why not?” mentality. There are a lot of aspects of certain songs which could be perceived to be “unnecessary” (“But I don't want to do it”, the “Scraped” “glitch” etc.), but was Chinese Democracy” itself ever that necessary? I mean, the concept was just destined to be irrational (and that's why I love it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdHeartBreaker Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 Rock in Rio, 2001. The performance was a beaut. My first listen to new Guns was this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseDemocracy2004 Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I think it's the centrepiece of the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henfjel Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I've always liked it. Wouldn't mind hearing a remix with just Bucket's solo though.multitracks! they dont have the speech and all that shit. just the solo :xmasssanta: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GivenToFly Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I think with "Chinese Democracy", it's best to approach it with a "Why not?" mentality. There are a lot of aspects of certain songs which could be perceived to be "unnecessary" ("But I don't want to do it", the "Scraped" "glitch" etc.), but was Chinese Democracy" itself ever that necessary? I mean, the concept was just destined to be irrational (and that's why I love it).True and wise words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmyL Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 No it doesn't need to be there but I always liked it there. I think it shows a lot of respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saber_ Posted March 7, 2011 Share Posted March 7, 2011 I don't mind the multifariously multitudinous nature of the song. ; )We're talking about art here. Would you tell a painter "oh i think that brush stroke there is superfluous"? I see what yer sayin, but I mean, whatever- like somebody else said you have the means on the interwebz to make your own edit sans "vocal montage." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkarmy Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I like the vocal montage... I think it adds depth to the song... ties in more universal themes...But what is funny is the RIR3 clip... I just can't stand watching bucket and robin on stage with their outrageous costumes... they played well though!And what the fuck Axl?? was grabbing the guitar really necessary 3 guitars and two keyboards couldn't quite tackle the challenge?Too bad they didn't release CD just before RIR3... I think Roy really fucked the whole project when he made Axl n the boyz rerecord everything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiedHands Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 It's actually pretty brilliant, but takes a lot to digest. If you pay attention, the lines seem to alternate between positive and negative, and tell a story through the end. It's something that took a TON of time and care and patience and thought. It's one of the highlights of the album, IMO.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuddMckagan Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I always skip the rest of the song and go straight to the montage, so I think it works well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I love it. when it comes in it's awesome. I wish I coulda seen it live. opening with Madagascar live would be epic if the crowd were really into it. MJ Fox quote is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wicked Hand Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I dig it. I heard it first on MTV in 2002. Thought it the highlight of that performance. I think the mlk audio may be axl's way of trying to pound it home that he is not the guy that the public thought he was when he wrote one n a million. I think it's his attempt to tell people I am not pedudice ( which I truly believe he's not) . Axl always has some motive behind his work. A calculated message that he delivers in a subtle or not way. My first thought was this sounds like newschool zepplin w a hiphop beat. I the mlk speech but I would prefer to her another verse or solo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 in MLK quotes does anyone not hear something I don't? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheapJon Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 it elevates the song to a greater level Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Riggs Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 I dig it. I heard it first on MTV in 2002. Thought it the highlight of that performance. That's pretty high praise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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