Nick85 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 (edited) This was posted in another thread, but as it's pretty big friggin' news, I felt it should probably have it's own seperate discussion.From Tommy's Twitter...@SoulMonster A lot of the songs we did that weren't on Chinese Democracy may be redone and put on the next album. Unsure yet.My personal thoughts, the way GNR operates during and post-production may see this album delayed for years more on end, if they do in fact re-record all of the tracks for the next album.I think it would be cool to incorporate DJ on several tracks, but is it really necessary to "redo" the entire album?? Edited September 7, 2011 by sofine11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 They probably will rerecord most of it. You know that story Axl made brain rerecord all of the drums just to have his 'feel' on them, so I think this might be applied to this new band too. Unfortunately that means it'll take more time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gunns5 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 (edited) Dj recording over buckets parts or even adding to it would be an insult to everthing music stands for.He's good live, but don't let a 3 year old finger paint on picassos art. Edited September 7, 2011 by gunns5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tange Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 the problem is that by doing this the members leave before the album comes out. Eventually someone is gonna be on the album that has left the band. deal with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 This was posted in another thread, but as it's pretty big friggin' news, I felt it should probably have it's own seperate discussion.From Tommy's Twitter...@SoulMonster A lot of the songs we did that weren't on Chinese Democracy may be redone and put on the next album. Unsure yet.My personal thoughts, the way GNR operates during and post-production may see this album delayed for years more on end, if they do in fact re-record all of the tracks for the next album.I think it would be cool to incorporate DJ on several tracks, but is it really necessary to "redo" the entire album?? I wouldn't put much investment on Tommys' predictions on the future Guns album. Not saying he isn't in the know(he obviously knows more than any of us), but major news and plans come from Axl, and even then it doesn't happen most of the time. 'Redone' probably means overdubbed, mixed and mastered. I really REALLY doubt they would re-record every part from scratch, they didn't even do that with CD I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaeryen Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 This was posted in another thread, but as it's pretty big friggin' news, I felt it should probably have it's own seperate discussion.From Tommy's Twitter...@SoulMonster A lot of the songs we did that weren't on Chinese Democracy may be redone and put on the next album. Unsure yet.My personal thoughts, the way GNR operates during and post-production may see this album delayed for years more on end, if they do in fact re-record all of the tracks for the next album.I think it would be cool to incorporate DJ on several tracks, but is it really necessary to "redo" the entire album?? I've always said that if they are going to use old songs they are going to get re-done and not released "as they are", but for these statements I've always come under attack and called a cupcake on these forums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 I'd like to simply add that all the shit we were fed over all these years about multiple albums, tracks, etc. really makes a giant pill to swallow, if they are really going to go ahead spend what will inevitably become years rerecording these songs. I would have really liked to hear the versions of the songs that were recorded by the people who, you know, wrote and inspired them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxocubeingravy Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Hopefully one day we will get various alternative versions of the songs throughout their creation timeline, e.g. 2000 intentions etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 looks like they just want to move on. go for a Dj n Axl album next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 looks like they just want to move on. go for a Dj n Axl album next.Odds are that Axl will be collecting social security before you own that album. Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 they could just redo a few CD era songs and do some new stuff. It might not take a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 i can understand why they would do this they did it with cd 1 and added ron they want to try and keep things currentIt makes perfect sense. But it shouldn't take that long. Professional musicians can learn and play new songs fairly quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 they could just redo a few CD era songs and do some new stuff. It might not take a long time.I agree that it shouldn't take a long time, the question is, will it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I don't think they will re-record the entire album, just enough to get DJ on there. They did it for Ron on CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 This was posted in another thread, but as it's pretty big friggin' news, I felt it should probably have it's own seperate discussion.From Tommy's Twitter...@SoulMonster A lot of the songs we did that weren't on Chinese Democracy may be redone and put on the next album. Unsure yet.My personal thoughts, the way GNR operates during and post-production may see this album delayed for years more on end, if they do in fact re-record all of the tracks for the next album.I think it would be cool to incorporate DJ on several tracks, but is it really necessary to "redo" the entire album?? Were the songs on Chinese Democracy completely redone to incorporate Bumblefoot? No. Mainly his lead parts. I think if anything, DJ will add some lead parts to the songs from the CD sessions.Also, not to be Captain Obvious, but it's worth noting that Tommy says "MAY be redone" and "UNSURE yet". So, I would caution anyone against taking this as gospel.Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Ron also played rhythm guitar on several tracks but I am not sure which. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 Ron also played rhythm guitar on several tracks but I am not sure which.Ron's words were that he recorded on "a good handful" of tracks that did not end up on the first album. It would have been cool if Axl did the same with DJ during their 11 months off, and had it set for release in time for the U.S. tour. But then again, that makes just way too much sense for Axl to even consider such a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I'm glad they are rerecording the material, cause there is no sense in marketing the album as a 'new GNR record' when half the people who play on the album aren't even in the band and the vocal tracks were from 10 years ago. Plus Axl sounds much better now than he has in years, so when you combine that with Bumble fitting in with the band even more and DJs bluesy hard rockin feel I can't wait to hear what the album is going to sound like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Maybe my little girl will be old enough to appreciate the music as much as me by the time it comes out. Don't sound bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ali Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Ron also played rhythm guitar on several tracks but I am not sure which.Ron's words were that he recorded on "a good handful" of tracks that did not end up on the first album. It would have been cool if Axl did the same with DJ during their 11 months off, and had it set for release in time for the U.S. tour. But then again, that makes just way too much sense for Axl to even consider such a thing.Well, we don't really know what happened during that time off. It hasn't been 11 months, anyway. I think the Azoff lawsuit probably took some time, and Axl may have just wanted to chill out after a year full of touring.Ali Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seely Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Tommy's latest tweet:@Mackarillo Don't worry, Chinese tour will eventually stop and new material WILL be out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted September 7, 2011 Author Share Posted September 7, 2011 Tommy's latest tweet:@Mackarillo Don't worry, Chinese tour will eventually stop and new material WILL be outI know Tommy means well, and I think it's awesome that he's reaching out to the fans, but the reality is that it's mainly up to Axl when the fans get to hear new music. Frankly, that scares me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Now Axl is going to beat him with a whip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew07 Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 Tommy's latest tweet:@Mackarillo Don't worry, Chinese tour will eventually stop and new material WILL be outbut at what cost?! muhahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schwarzgold Posted September 7, 2011 Share Posted September 7, 2011 I don't know shit about what's going on in the band, but I like the buzz. Thanks Mr. Stinson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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