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Guest Len B'stard

In Morrisseys defence, a good chunk of the first listeners of The Ramones had the same criticism, some of the same people who became their biggest fans afterwards despised them as a band. I suppose it's difficult to see now but in 1974 a band like that were pretty offensive to the sensibilities of about 99% of music listeners.

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Miserable cunt needs to shut his face a get a bacon sarnie into him. :lol:

You know, i bet he's this total hardman behind closed doors :lol: He certainly ain't a small fella.

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I suppose it's difficult to see now but in 1974 a band like that were pretty offensive to the sensibilities of about 99% of music listeners.

Which is what is so amusing about the President of the New York Dolls fan club not getting it.

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I suppose it's difficult to see now but in 1974 a band like that were pretty offensive to the sensibilities of about 99% of music listeners.

Which is what is so amusing about the President of the New York Dolls fan club not getting it.

See his problem was he thought the Dolls were some kind of fucking art thing, like satire or something, sending up rock excesses by embodying them...trouble was, they weren't, they were very serious and earnest and reasonably unhinged :lol:

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I suppose it's difficult to see now but in 1974 a band like that were pretty offensive to the sensibilities of about 99% of music listeners.

Which is what is so amusing about the President of the New York Dolls fan club not getting it.

See his problem was he thought the Dolls were some kind of fucking art thing, like satire or something, sending up rock excesses by embodying them...trouble was, they weren't, they were very serious and earnest and reasonably unhinged :lol:

"Sending up rock excesses"...well, if he couldn't spot that in the Ramones. :lol::shrugs:

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I suppose it's difficult to see now but in 1974 a band like that were pretty offensive to the sensibilities of about 99% of music listeners.

Which is what is so amusing about the President of the New York Dolls fan club not getting it.

See his problem was he thought the Dolls were some kind of fucking art thing, like satire or something, sending up rock excesses by embodying them...trouble was, they weren't, they were very serious and earnest and reasonably unhinged :lol:

"Sending up rock excesses"...well, if he couldn't spot that in the Ramones. :lol::shrugs:

The notion i guess was that The Dolls were something to do with some of the air Andy Warhol breathed and hence, there was some sort of governing genius to their thing whereas The Ramones were fucking dumbasses...but yeah, i always saw The Ramones as a sending up of as well as a fond celebration of the core of rock...and nailed in a way no band before or since has.

Even David Jo' didn't dig The Ramones to begin with, he's in some documentary or another like, y'know, saying he thought they were awful when they started out. Then again, the whole Buster Poindexter episode is an indicator that DJs judgement is perhaps not the soundest it could be :lol:

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I suppose it's difficult to see now but in 1974 a band like that were pretty offensive to the sensibilities of about 99% of music listeners.

Which is what is so amusing about the President of the New York Dolls fan club not getting it.

See his problem was he thought the Dolls were some kind of fucking art thing, like satire or something, sending up rock excesses by embodying them...trouble was, they weren't, they were very serious and earnest and reasonably unhinged :lol:

"Sending up rock excesses"...well, if he couldn't spot that in the Ramones. :lol::shrugs:

The notion i guess was that The Dolls were something to do with some of the air Andy Warhol breathed and hence, there was some sort of governing genius to their thing whereas The Ramones were fucking dumbasses...but yeah, i always saw The Ramones as a sending up of as well as a fond celebration of the core of rock...and nailed in a way no band before or since has.

Even David Jo' didn't dig The Ramones to begin with, he's in some documentary or another like, y'know, saying he thought they were awful when they started out. Then again, the whole Buster Poindexter episode is an indicator that DJs judgement is perhaps not the soundest it could be :lol:

Noooooooo he had it all wrong.

The Ramones were art, it was minimalism maaaan.

:lol:

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Who actually sits and listens to the Ramones on a regular basis?

I know the words to every album? No shit. Except the last one.

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