ManetsBR Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 What's GNR's deal with UMG regarding album releases? I remember having read about it but don't recall where or when exactly.If I'm not mistaken they still owe UMG one last album, right? And again, if I'm not mistaken, they latest deal - after 1997/8 when NuGNR began - was at least one release every at least 5 years?Live Era - 1999Greatest Hits - 2004Chinese Democracy - 2008New album - At least until 2013?That would explain Axl's and Beta's statement of planning a release at the end of the year and DJ's latest interview where he said they have 12 songs - apart from the Chinese Democracy sessions songs from the previous band.TSI, Live Era and Chinese Democracy were all released on November 23, and there are strong rumors of a South American Tour at November: same time of when Axl said he wanted to release a new album and actually the same exact time of all the previous releases. Actually, one of the other admins of Axl Rose - Fan Club from Brazil told me got in touch with the director of events of HSBC Hall from Rio, and looks like Team Brazil is booking a date for Guns in November.Also, let's not forget Axl's quote about a new album release date: "Same bat time, same bat channel."I know perhaps we're looking for things where there's isn't anything to look, in a desperate way of searching for any evidence... But I think those things I wrote above shouldn't be ignored.(: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 It's a nice theory, and we can only hope it's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) Also, let's not forget Axl's quote about a new album release date: "Same bat time, same bat channel."when did he say this?also when in 2008 did we realise that chinese was actually coming out? I think a more realistic release for your 5 year theory would be the vegas cd/dvd. Edited July 20, 2013 by Axl_morris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 2008 during one of the chats if I'm not mistaken. Or the interview he made with himself Del James? I don't remember. But he said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NGOG Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I'm not sure there is any 5 year deadline in place for GNR. The fact they have never exceeded 5 years in terms of releasing things is merely coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Lahey Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) Why don't you ask Beta about it? I've heard that they owe the label two more albums. Edited July 20, 2013 by Randy Lahey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 No, I don't want her to yell at me again :,/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Lahey Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 No, I don't want her to yell at me again :,/Don't ask her a question in a sarcastic way next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NGOG Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I'm not sure Interscope would want to be associated with second installment from the Chinese Democracy era. Not only would I say they didn't get the material, but the name itself coupled with the imagery is too strong. Obviously Axl is going to have to appease their mainstream focus by including Dj ASHBA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 But who talked about Chinese Democracy II?I'm already accepting the fact that the new album will be DJ-Axl material instead of the legendary Bucket-Brain-Finck-Axl supergroup music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NGOG Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 But who talked about Chinese Democracy II?I'm already accepting the fact that the new album will be DJ-Axl material instead of the legendary Bucket-Brain-Finck-Axl supergroup music.Clearly Axl is not going to just vault the rest of Chinese Democracy indefinitely. As Dj said, some of it will be selected along with things he and Axl have worked on. I would say in fact that Chinese era material will be the most prominent on any future album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) I hope so. But as you said, I don't think UMG is any interested in that material, I think it's possible that they would release this DJ stuff, so that their deal would come to an end - assuming the deal is as I wrote - so they could release the Chinese Democracy later, with another recording company, or another deal or independent or whatever. Edited July 20, 2013 by ManetsBR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Reality Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 even if it's true that they have a five album deal, typically it's up to the label whether to enforce this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Lahey Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 But who talked about Chinese Democracy II?I'm already accepting the fact that the new album will be DJ-Axl material instead of the legendary Bucket-Brain-Finck-Axl supergroup music.I don't think Universal gives a fuck about a DJ Axba album either. They'll only give Axl more money to record new material if Slash is in the fold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NGOG Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I hope so. But as you said, I don't think UMG is any interested in that material, I think it's possible that they would release this DJ stuff, so that their deal would come to an end - assuming the deal is as I wrote - so they could release the Chinese Democracy later, with another recording company, or another deal or independent or whatever.If Axl wants to, they need to release the rest of Chinese Democracy quickly to prevent further 'dating'. The compromise will be parts of Chinese Democracy II to get Axl on board, coupled with Dj led moments to create that commercial appeal typical of Interscope policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val22 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Probably a rumor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 Rumor? What rumor? I didn't say I heard a new album is going to be released, I'm just discussion the possibility using the facts we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavgnr Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) That 5 year thing is interesting and I'd never considered that before. Lets hope something pans out. Axl did say that he hopes to release silkworms later this year. Edited July 20, 2013 by gavgnr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuanVictor Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Maybe the plan is release Appetite For Democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jman2000 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Cool theory manets. I hope it happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 2008 during one of the chats if I'm not mistaken. Or the interview he made with himself Del James? :rofl-lol:it was in the chats btw.Chinese D's release date was announced on Oct 9. But they'd been releasing songs on Rock Band and Body of Lies before that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavgnr Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 If memory serves the first rumblings were in August 2008 when info leaked about shacklers being on rockband. Then we heard about body of lies and If The World. From then we knew the release was inevitable.There's still time for a 2013 release imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tippin Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I remember a poster who supposedly worked for UMG publishing claimed to have sent Madison proof that CD was turned in In July of '08..I think his name was Billy B? Anyone else remember this? Not sure if it turned out credible or not.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Does the label control the releases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jman2000 Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 I remember a poster who supposedly worked for UMG publishing claimed to have sent Madison proof that CD was turned in In July of '08..I think his name was Billy B? Anyone else remember this? Not sure if it turned out credible or not..Yes. He was legit. If you check out msl's forum, I just posted a storie about Jackie Chan. He had it... Woops, looks like its actually your story I posted tippin! Didn't know that was you at first.... Haha! Hope thats ok I posted it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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