bran Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) Best warriors Barristan SelmyJamie Lannister (before his hand was cut off)Greatjon UmberThe Hound The Red ViperThe MountainBrienneGarlan Tyrell (suppose to be better than Loras)Strong BelwasGrey WormDaarioBronnBest of them all was Ser Arthur Dayne but he's deadawesome list, arthur dayne was a badass. garlan tyrell is someone i wish was in the show, leading the tyrell/lannister vanguard at the battle of blackwater just shows how awesome of a warrior he is. greatjon in the show wasnt at the red wedding was he? so who knows where he is one i think is pretty cool but not in the show yet is areo hotah, dealing with the red viper and the sand snakes everyday for years must make you a badass i would also like to nominate maege mormont(dacey to a lesser extent) those ladies are tough as hell. also tormund is quite awesome as well. Edited June 3, 2014 by bran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broskirose Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 lol Loras Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Loras was good, he was a better jouster than swordsmen. Jaime I guess saw potential in him but Jaime himself was never much of a jouster. He was the swordsman. Maybe Jamie wanted him to be Lord Commander of Kingsguard after him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDRE Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) And after looking at your list again..Georgy, do you really think Daario and Bronn could beat Drogo? Edited June 3, 2014 by SunnyDRE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 lol Lorasto be fair though loras in the book is much different than tv show loras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Daario, yes. Bronn, maybe.And Bran Aero was certainly a bad ass. He needs to be cast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDRE Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 lol LorasNaw, Georgy just doesn't want to give him any credit. In the books he is pretty bad ass. People talk about his fighting skills like they do Jaime and the Mountain.The show has just chosen to focus more on his sexual preference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 Daario, yes. Bronn, maybe.And Bran Aero was certainly a bad ass. He needs to be cast that list of supposed characters cast for season 5 had him on it i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SunnyDRE Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Daario, yes. Bronn, maybe.And Bran Aero was certainly a bad ass. He needs to be cast So you have Darario and Bronn above Drogo, and Brienne above all three?You're killing me GZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broskirose Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 That may all be true in the books but in the show he's just known as that gay dude who cheats in jousts, needs the Hound to protect him from the Mountain, gets his ass kicked by Brienne, sleeps with obvious spies and gets made fun of by his own grandma. Plus he cries like a bitch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tater Totts Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 (edited) Let's discuss the way 'The Viper' died. Is that physically possible? I mean, the show is based on fantasy, of course, but should we assume that in a world where dragons are real, a big man like 'The Mountain' can destroy another man's head just like that?Apparently it takes 500 pounds of force to crush a human skull and the actor who played the Mountain finished second in World's Strongest man several times, not sure if it would have been so extreme but I could certainly see him doing lots of damage and then crushing the skull against the floor.Also this: Edited June 3, 2014 by Tater Totts 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Crush the cranium would be impossible but the cheekbones might not be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 That may all be true in the books but in the show he's just known as that gay dude who cheats in jousts, needs the Hound to protect him from the Mountain, gets his ass kicked by Brienne, sleeps with obvious spies and gets made fun of by his own grandma.Plus he cries like a bitch.We never see Loras fight. We know he is very reckless as Jaime notes and that will have consequencesIn the show he is supposed to be some great swordsman but in the book he was said to be a better horseman than a swordsman which is still great since he is a knight. Loras would beat Jaime in a fight now he has only one hand. But when Jaime had both hands, Jamie would win. I remember on the show Jaime said there's only two men that can best him in a fight. I think in the books he mentioned Greatjon Umber being one of them. I think he would have the toughest time with The Hound, The Mountain, Greatjon and Selmy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 I'm gonna miss Oberyn. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheapJon Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 That may all be true in the books but in the show he's just known as that gay dude who cheats in jousts, needs the Hound to protect him from the Mountain, gets his ass kicked by Brienne, sleeps with obvious spies and gets made fun of by his own grandma.Plus he cries like a bitch.We never see Loras fight. We know he is very reckless as Jaime notes and that will have consequencesIn the show he is supposed to be some great swordsman but in the book he was said to be a better horseman than a swordsman which is still great since he is a knight. Loras would beat Jaime in a fight now he has only one hand. But when Jaime had both hands, Jamie would win. I remember on the show Jaime said there's only two men that can best him in a fight. I think in the books he mentioned Greatjon Umber being one of them. I think he would have the toughest time with The Hound, The Mountain, Greatjon and Selmy. Last time you guys speculated like this, someone came out of nowhere and spoiled Oberyns fate in this very thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netcat Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 - The Beetle conversation. Some of the best scenes this season have been the ones with Jaime visiting Tyrion in his cell, but what the hell was that.i think that was a metaphor. and both Tyrion and Jaime knew what they were REALLY talking about. like, gods kill people randomly and insistently like their crazy cousin Orson used to kill beetles. and it's impossible to understand gods' will or logic behing their actions, no matter how hard you try. as well as it was impossible to understand Orson, though Tyrion had a feeling that what his cousin did had to make some sence, but he just couldn't figure it out. for me it was the most dramatic scene of the episode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GivenToFly Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 - The Beetle conversation. Some of the best scenes this season have been the ones with Jaime visiting Tyrion in his cell, but what the hell was that.i think that was a metaphor. and both Tyrion and Jaime knew what they were REALLY talking about. like, gods kill people randomly and insistently like their crazy cousin Orson used to kill beetles. and it's impossible to understand gods' will or logic behing their actions, no matter how hard you try. as well as it was impossible to understand Orson, though Tyrion had a feeling that what his cousin did had to make some sence, but he just couldn't figure it out. for me it was the most dramatic scene of the episodeI think there were a few levels to that metaphor. It could also be about how Tyrion has been treated his entire life by the world and especially by his father, which would explain his special interest in this, or about how the strong lord over the weak by virtue of strength alone, or about how we all enjoy watching a show where characters are tortured, raped and murdered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 That may all be true in the books but in the show he's just known as that gay dude who cheats in jousts, needs the Hound to protect him from the Mountain, gets his ass kicked by Brienne, sleeps with obvious spies and gets made fun of by his own grandma.Plus he cries like a bitch.We never see Loras fight. We know he is very reckless as Jaime notes and that will have consequencesIn the show he is supposed to be some great swordsman but in the book he was said to be a better horseman than a swordsman which is still great since he is a knight. Loras would beat Jaime in a fight now he has only one hand. But when Jaime had both hands, Jamie would win. I remember on the show Jaime said there's only two men that can best him in a fight. I think in the books he mentioned Greatjon Umber being one of them. I think he would have the toughest time with The Hound, The Mountain, Greatjon and Selmy. Last time you guys speculated like this, someone came out of nowhere and spoiled Oberyns fate in this very thread. Yeah, and?- The Beetle conversation. Some of the best scenes this season have been the ones with Jaime visiting Tyrion in his cell, but what the hell was that.i think that was a metaphor. and both Tyrion and Jaime knew what they were REALLY talking about. like, gods kill people randomly and insistently like their crazy cousin Orson used to kill beetles. and it's impossible to understand gods' will or logic behing their actions, no matter how hard you try. as well as it was impossible to understand Orson, though Tyrion had a feeling that what his cousin did had to make some sence, but he just couldn't figure it out. for me it was the most dramatic scene of the episodeThe gods are basically retarded and killing people at random. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netcat Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 or about how the strong lord over the weak by virtue of strength alone, or about how we all enjoy watching a show where characters are tortured, raped and murdered.i thought about that too. it's like George Martin is a god of that universe... and he acts exactly like Orson, the difference is we are supposed to understand his logic later maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 or about how the strong lord over the weak by virtue of strength alone, or about how we all enjoy watching a show where characters are tortured, raped and murdered.i thought about that too. it's like George Martin is a god of that universe... and he acts exactly like Orson, the difference is we are supposed to understand his logic later maybePeople get the most upset with Ned and Robb's deaths. Now they are with Oberyn, and I can see that. But they have died because they've made stupid mistakes. Ned was dumb enough to tell Cersei that he knows the truth. Robb broke his oath with the Freys, executed Rickard Karstark, and not let his uncle Edmure in on his plans. Oberyn did not do the classic "double tap" or at least kept his himself out of The Mountain's reach.I think of all the major religions we've seen, The Seven, The Old Gods, and R'hollr, the Seven seem to be the most made up. Oh, what do you guys think will happen with The Mountain? Will he recover or die from his wounds? Because if he lives, he may face the consequences of his confession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheapJon Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 That may all be true in the books but in the show he's just known as that gay dude who cheats in jousts, needs the Hound to protect him from the Mountain, gets his ass kicked by Brienne, sleeps with obvious spies and gets made fun of by his own grandma.Plus he cries like a bitch.We never see Loras fight. We know he is very reckless as Jaime notes and that will have consequencesIn the show he is supposed to be some great swordsman but in the book he was said to be a better horseman than a swordsman which is still great since he is a knight. Loras would beat Jaime in a fight now he has only one hand. But when Jaime had both hands, Jamie would win. I remember on the show Jaime said there's only two men that can best him in a fight. I think in the books he mentioned Greatjon Umber being one of them. I think he would have the toughest time with The Hound, The Mountain, Greatjon and Selmy. Last time you guys speculated like this, someone came out of nowhere and spoiled Oberyns fate in this very thread. Yeah, and?It just reminded me of it. + By highlighting that, maybe it stops someone from being an asshole yet again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Whoever that asshole is, should be banned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GivenToFly Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Oh, what do you guys think will happen with The Mountain? Will he recover or die from his wounds? Because if he lives, he may face the consequences of his confession.I can tell you what happens to him in the books. Obviously a spoiler: Turns out Oberyn's spear was poisoned and Gregor Clegane dies in agony. This should be in the next episode.Later: a knight named Robert Strong appears on the scene, he never speaks and it's never clearly revealed who he is, but it's pretty much certain that he is either a revived Clegane or his animated body. Qyburn is responsible for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Georgy Zhukov Posted June 3, 2014 Share Posted June 3, 2014 Oh, what do you guys think will happen with The Mountain? Will he recover or die from his wounds? Because if he lives, he may face the consequences of his confession.I can tell you what happens to him in the books. Obviously a spoiler: Turns out Oberyn's spear was poisoned and Gregor Clegane dies in agony. This should be in the next episode.Later: a knight named Robert Strong appears on the scene, he never speaks and it's never clearly revealed who he is, but it's pretty much certain that he is either a revived Clegane or his animated body. Qyburn is responsible for this. Yes, I've read the books. My question was directed to non readersDamn look at his brains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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