ronaldo9 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Apparently, early investigations haven't found anything out of the norm on the co-pilot's home flight simulator. Media also saying that the pilots did not ask to be on that flight together and that there was no request for additional fuel (which would have been useful to fly over the Himilayas to a certain degree). Pakistan saying that the plane didn't show up on their radar (so, it most likely would have had to fly over the Himilayas if it went north). Malaysia now saying it's a possibility that the last satellite ping came from the ground (though, only a possibility, not necessarily a probable scenario). The ground ping possibility aside, it's sounding more and more likely that the plane unfortunately went the southern path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 This thread is a lot more readable after putting Rita and Ratbrain on ignore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 I actually went back and edited the title to the thread after reading this article....A new theory as to what happened to missing Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 has been posted online, suggesting that a slow decompression of the cabin left both passengers and pilots unconscious.Posted anonymously on tumblr, the theory cites a US Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) Airworthiness Directive from November 2013. Whoever is behind the theory claims to have emailed it to the National Transport Safety Board, in the hope that they "will consider if it's worthy of forwarding onto investigators".The directive is a worldwide warning to be on the lookout for cracks in the fuselage of Boeing 777s underneath the satellite antenna.It reads: "We propose to adopt a new Airworthiness Directive (AD) for certain The Boeing Company Model 777 airplanes. This proposed AD was prompted by a report of cracking in the fuselage skin underneath the satellite communication [sATCOM] antenna adapter."This proposed AD would require repetitive inspections of the visible fuselage skin and doubler if installed, for cracking, corrosion, and any indication of contact of a certain fastener to a bonding jumper, and repair if necessary."We are proposing this AD to detect and correct cracking and corrosion in the fuselage skin, which could lead to rapid decompression and loss of structural integrity of the airplane."The FAA's basis for the proposal was an inspection of a 14-year-old Boeing 777 owned by an unnamed airline, which uncovered a 16-inch crack.The theory's author goes on to suggest that a small, golf ball-sized hole in the fuselage on that part of the plane could have caused communications to fail and resulted in all 239 passengers and crew onboard the plane slowly drifting into unconsciousness."If such decompression left the aircraft intact, then the autopilot would have flown the planned route or otherwise maintained its heading/altitude until fuel exhaustion. A slow decompression [e.g. from a golf ball-sized hole] would have gradually impaired and confused the pilots before cabin altitude [pressure] warnings sounded."The writer proposes the following chain of events:Likely fuselage failure near SATCOM antenna adapter, disabling some or all of GPS, ACARS, ADS-B, and ADS-C antennas and systems.Thus, only primary radars would detect the plane. Primary radar range is usually less than 100nm, and is generally ineffective at high altitudes.If the decompression was slow enough, the writer believes that the pilots would not have realised it and would have been unable to put on their oxygen masks in time. It is also noted that the flight was a "red-eye" meaning many passengers would have been trying to sleep, therefore making the affects of oxygen deprivation less obvious.The theory may also explain why "another pilot thirty minutes ahead heard "mumbling" from MH370 pilots."In summary the theory recommends that flight investigators "obtain data logs from primary radars throughout mainland China that would have been along the planned route" and "obtain all passengers' cell phone log and location data" in an attempt to find the last successful connection.19 families of those on board signed a statement alleging that they were able to call the passengers but were unable to get through, despite the phones ringing.Out of all the theories out there, this one (imo) is by far the most plausible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldo9 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Actually, this "slow" decompression theory seems possible....and it wouldn't involve a hijacking, suicide, etc....http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-did-slow-decompression-leave-passengers-unconscious-1439924Isn't that what happened to Payne Stewart's flight? Would be a good theory, but doesn't explain why that sharp left turn off course was pre-programmed into the plane's navigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 Actually, this "slow" decompression theory seems possible....and it wouldn't involve a hijacking, suicide, etc....http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-did-slow-decompression-leave-passengers-unconscious-1439924Isn't that what happened to Payne Stewart's flight? Would be a good theory, but doesn't explain why that sharp left turn off course was pre-programmed into the plane's navigation.Yeah, I think it's basically the same thing that happened to Payne Stewart's flight.There's so much information being put out there that I'm starting to wonder about the validity of it all. We won't know what really happened until after the plane is found....and even then, it could be months.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NGOG Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 I think they should stop releasing suspicions until they've came as close as they possibly can to 'the truth'. What if they are soiling a perfectly innocent man's name (the pilot)? From what I can see, they haven't got a clue what they're dealing with and are throwing out hopeful accusations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 I think they should stop releasing suspicions until they've came as close as they possibly can to 'the truth'. What if they are soiling a perfectly innocent man's name (the pilot)?From what I can see, they haven't got a clue what they're dealing with and are throwing out hopeful accusations.I agree. Initially, I was starting to believe the "hijacked/pilot" theories....but after reading the decompression theory, it makes the most sense....with the current information at hand, anyway. Until they get much better information, they shouldn't tarnish anyone's name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 Wow...this is getting stranger and stranger....now they're saying the plane flew closer to 7 hours....and last known location was near Perth, Australia? The weeklong search for a missing passenger jet shifted toward the Indian Ocean as Malaysia’s prime minister agreed with investigators that the aircraft was intentionally diverted.Satellite transmissions that weren’t turned off along with other systems showed Malaysian Airline Flight 370 operated for almost seven hours after last making contact with air traffic controllers on March 8, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said yesterday. That may have taken the Boeing Co. 777-200 near the limits of its fuel load if it was airborne the whole period.The movements of the plane, which veered off its Kuala Lumpur-to-Beijing course and flew back across the Malaysian peninsula before disappearing, were “consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane,” Najib said.“In view of this latest development, the Malaysian authorities have refocused their investigation into the crew and passengers on board,” he said.Police searched the home of Zaharie Ahmad Shah, 53, the captain of the flight, shortly after Najib spoke, Reuters reported.Satellite transmission data analyzed by U.S. investigators showed that the Malaysian Airline (MAS) System Bhd. jetliner’s most likely last-known position was in a zone about 1,000 miles (1,609 kilometers) west of Perth, Australia, said two people in the U.S. government who are familiar with the readings. Najib was told that is the most promising lead on locating the plane, one of the people said.....http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-15/malaysia-sets-new-search-zone-as-flight-deliberately-diverted.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdHeartBreaker Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 (edited) You have to appreciate just how much attention this event has got from the world wide press, it's bizarreness garners attention, not to mention everyone with a brain forming their own theories on the internet. It's more like, so many theories out there from outside sources but little facts. That's not to say it hasn't been handled perfectly. Some information, such as the Chinese satellite images, which I suspect are disregarded now were known of one day after the disappearance. Edited March 16, 2014 by ColdHeartBreaker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Val22 Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Maybe if they find the plane, the real story will come out.Such a horror for those family members and friends who are waiting to hear something definite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 Wow...this is getting stranger and stranger....now they're saying the plane flew closer to 7 hours....and last known location was near Perth, Australia? The weeklong search for a missing passenger jet shifted toward the Indian Ocean as Malaysia’s prime minister agreed with investigators that the aircraft was intentionally diverted.Satellite transmissions that weren’t turned off along with other systems showed Malaysian Airline Flight 370 operated for almost seven hours after last making contact with air traffic controllers on March 8, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said yesterday. That may have taken the Boeing Co. 777-200 near the limits of its fuel load if it was airborne the whole period.The movements of the plane, which veered off its Kuala Lumpur-to-Beijing course and flew back across the Malaysian peninsula before disappearing, were “consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane,” Najib said.“In view of this latest development, the Malaysian authorities have refocused their investigation into the crew and passengers on board,” he said.Police searched the home of Zaharie Ahmad Shah, 53, the captain of the flight, shortly after Najib spoke, Reuters reported.Satellite transmission data analyzed by U.S. investigators showed that the Malaysian Airline (MAS) System Bhd. jetliner’s most likely last-known position was in a zone about 1,000 miles (1,609 kilometers) west of Perth, Australia, said two people in the U.S. government who are familiar with the readings. Najib was told that is the most promising lead on locating the plane, one of the people said.....http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-15/malaysia-sets-new-search-zone-as-flight-deliberately-diverted.html7 hours is why I was asking were they in range of North Korea. I guess I got that newscycle before it hit your neck of the woods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted March 16, 2014 Author Share Posted March 16, 2014 Wow...this is getting stranger and stranger....now they're saying the plane flew closer to 7 hours....and last known location was near Perth, Australia? The weeklong search for a missing passenger jet shifted toward the Indian Ocean as Malaysia’s prime minister agreed with investigators that the aircraft was intentionally diverted.Satellite transmissions that weren’t turned off along with other systems showed Malaysian Airline Flight 370 operated for almost seven hours after last making contact with air traffic controllers on March 8, Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak said yesterday. That may have taken the Boeing Co. 777-200 near the limits of its fuel load if it was airborne the whole period.The movements of the plane, which veered off its Kuala Lumpur-to-Beijing course and flew back across the Malaysian peninsula before disappearing, were “consistent with deliberate action by someone on the plane,” Najib said.“In view of this latest development, the Malaysian authorities have refocused their investigation into the crew and passengers on board,” he said.Police searched the home of Zaharie Ahmad Shah, 53, the captain of the flight, shortly after Najib spoke, Reuters reported.Satellite transmission data analyzed by U.S. investigators showed that the Malaysian Airline (MAS) System Bhd. jetliner’s most likely last-known position was in a zone about 1,000 miles (1,609 kilometers) west of Perth, Australia, said two people in the U.S. government who are familiar with the readings. Najib was told that is the most promising lead on locating the plane, one of the people said.....http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-15/malaysia-sets-new-search-zone-as-flight-deliberately-diverted.html7 hours is why I was asking were they in range of North Korea. I guess I got that newscycle before it hit your neck of the woods.Yeah....I guess you guys are really 5 hours ahead.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohlovelyrita Posted March 16, 2014 Share Posted March 16, 2014 This is a sensitive matter with HV knowing someone related. I will give a hopeful scenario. What if there is some on-going negotiation going regarding the patent to some technology? Is this true and means anything? Can anyone find out if these are 4 of the 20 employees on board from that Austin firm? "Four days after flight MH370 goes missing, a patent is approved. 4 of the 5 Patent holders are Chinese employees of Freescale Semiconductor of Austin TX. The fifth is the company itself. Each patent is divided into 20% increments to the 5 holders - Peidong Wang, Suzhou, China, (20%)Zhijun Chen, Suzhou, China, (20%)Zhihong Cheng, Suzhou, China, (20%)Li Ying, Suzhou, China, (20%)Freescale Semiconductor (20%)"http://worldtruth.tv/leuren-moret-flight-370-downing-was-energy-weapons-demo-rothschild-patent-scam-payback-for-kuala-lumpur-war-crimes-tribunal-verdicts-vs-israel-us-and-uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 Out of the million ways to take people out, taking a plane hostage or blowing it up - with an additional 234 people as collateral damage would rank 999,999th on the list. Seriously....just stop with the nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 If it's the slow decompression, what about the communication being turned off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LTD Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 My guess is the plane will never be recovered: answers, people and plane itself been somewhere in bottom of Indian Ocean for a while now. Perhaps plan was to bring it down all along. Or maybe we are witnessing mysterious aftermath of some partially failed mass murder/suicide act that was targeting something on Australian West coast. Tis a mystery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohlovelyrita Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 I think it landed in tact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 The Yellow king is the pilot. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Nova Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) If it's the slow decompression, what about the communication being turned off?The article actually addresses that. Basically, a golf ball sized hole in the fuselage, near the SATCOM antenna adapter, would cause the communications systems to fail...one after another.Likely fuselage failure near SATCOM antenna adapter, disabling some or all of GPS, ACARS, ADS-B, and ADS-C antennas and systems.Thus, only primary radars would detect the plane. Primary radar range is usually less than 100nm, and is generally ineffective at high altitudes. Edited March 17, 2014 by Kasanova King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohlovelyrita Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 (edited) If it's the slow decompression, what about the communication being turned off?The article actually addresses that. Basically, a golf ball sized hole in the fuselage, near the SATCOM antenna adapter, would cause the communications systems to fail...one after another.Likely fuselage failure near SATCOM antenna adapter, disabling some or all of GPS, ACARS, ADS-B, and ADS-C antennas and systems.Thus, only primary radars would detect the plane. Primary radar range is usually less than 100nm, and is generally ineffective at high altitudes.Interesting you would complain about other people posting theories!"Someone acting deliberately'The first clue that the captain or co-pilot may have been involved stems from when the plane made a sharp, deliberate turn just after it last communicated with Kuala Lumpur air traffic controllers, and before it would have to communicate with Vietnamese controllers, according to the U.S. official with knowledge of the latest intelligence thinking. http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/16/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/ Edited March 17, 2014 by ohlovelyrita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldo9 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 If it's the slow decompression, what about the communication being turned off?The article actually addresses that. Basically, a golf ball sized hole in the fuselage, near the SATCOM antenna adapter, would cause the communications systems to fail...one after another.Likely fuselage failure near SATCOM antenna adapter, disabling some or all of GPS, ACARS, ADS-B, and ADS-C antennas and systems.Thus, only primary radars would detect the plane. Primary radar range is usually less than 100nm, and is generally ineffective at high altitudes.Don't know the answer, but wouldn't the pilots know if parts of the communications system failed (would think there would be some sort of alert if there was a failure)? And, if they did, wouldn't they report that instead of saying, "All right, good night," since the other systems were turned off/failed before the pilots communicated that? Don't know what the procedure is for dealing with that, but would think they would have to alert someone about it.Still not sure what to think, especially now knowing that the pilots didn't request that flight together, basically leaving it to chance. Whether it's the pilots trying to accomplish something for themselves, slow decompression, or whatever the case may be, it would be nice to get some definite answers, but it'll probably be a long time before that happens, if at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronaldo9 Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 Now, officials are saying the transponder didn't turn off until a few minutes after the last verbal communication, not before as they were originally saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohlovelyrita Posted March 17, 2014 Share Posted March 17, 2014 http://keithledgerwood.tumblr.com/post/79838944823/did-malaysian-airlines-370-disappear-using-sia68-sq68 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.wa.T Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 Once again the media has imposed their 'me first' attitude and have turned a trajedy into a debacle. All of the different media outlets heave become totally inept and unprofessional, screw them.It's looking like the plane was potentially stolen, if that's the case, that's a pretty bold move. Hopefully it and those responsible are found before they can do more harm to any innocent people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) " I'm no expert but up close this does look like a plane and an oil slick. http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014/map/128148 … prayers go out to the families #MH370 and its like a mile away Pulau Perak, where they "last" tracked it 5°39'08.5"N 98°50'38.0"E but what do I know?"http://music.yahoo.com/news/courtney-love-thinks-she-may-found-missing-malaysian-201504477-rolling-stone.htmlfrom courtney loves facebooki think somone has been drinking and taking huge amounts of drugs again Edited March 18, 2014 by bran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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