liers Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Tommy sitting out for a show so Duff can play instead seems odd, especially in the middle of a tour when he doesn't have anything else to do. Furthermore, GnR seems to be making it very public that Duff has been performing with them. Do you think this means that by the time the next tour comes around, Tommy will be out and Duff will be back full time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Neither. Pitman's bass and sub bass skills make them both obsolete. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercool Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 i voted "yes tommy is leaving and duff will replace him". duff > stinson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tinyrobot Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I voted yes but answer is more complex. Duff will only return if he's given the place he deserves, as a founding member, not an employee and that includes not only playing shows but writing and recording new music.Duff is our only hope to save GN'R. He's the one who makes Axl happy, who Axl has respect for and listens to. If Axl can relay on Duff and pass to him some of the responsability of leading this band, we will have a new album and a better Axl, as it's been proven in every show Mckagan joined to play in the last two months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 (edited) I voted yes but answer is more complex.Duff will only return if he's given the place he deserves, as a founding member, not an employee and that includes not only playing shows but writing and recording new music.Duff is our only hope to save GN'R. He's the one who makes Axl happy, who Axl has respect for and listens to. If Axl can relay on Duff and pass to him some of the responsability of leading this band, we will have a new album and a better Axl, as it's been proven in every show Mckagan joined to play in the last two months.Don't set yourself up for disappointment. It probably won't happen. But even if Duff won't comeback, he can still work with Axl in the studio, send ideas, and perform with the band live here and there. It wll be better then nothing. Edited June 1, 2014 by Rovim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gunns Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Yes Duff is coming back because Tommy is taking a 'break' from GnR due to his 'wife' needing to 'bottle feed his baby' 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Gotta hand it to him, Tommy is an awesome drunk. Your sig would probably never happened if it wasn't for the sauce. I feel like a gangster from the 30's. The sauce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gunns Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Gotta hand it to him, Tommy is an awesome drunk. Your sig would probably never happened if it wasn't for the sauce. I feel like a gangster from the 30's. The sauce.I gotta agree, I have the sauce to thank for Tommy's humor most of the time, without it I probably wouldn't even know he exists on stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Maybe DJ is pushing Axl to fire Tommy, because he's always bullying him on stage. DJ seems very pleased with Duff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I voted yes but answer is more complex.Duff will only return if he's given the place he deserves, as a founding member, not an employee and that includes not only playing shows but writing and recording new music.Duff is our only hope to save GN'R. He's the one who makes Axl happy, who Axl has respect for and listens to. If Axl can relay on Duff and pass to him some of the responsability of leading this band, we will have a new album and a better Axl, as it's been proven in every show Mckagan joined to play in the last two months.Don't set yourself up for disappointment. It probably won't happen. But even if Duff won't comeback, he can still work with Axl in the studio, send ideas, and perform with the band live here and there. It wll be better then nothing.But Tommy and all the other guys are the people who should work with Axl and bring ideas and write music. Look if Axl needs Duff or Izzy´s help then he better get rid of all the Nu guns. It shows that this new band is not working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 (edited) We all know this "new band" is Axl making the best out of a bad situation since all the guys he wanted ( Freese, Bucket, Brain, Robin) left the sinking ship.It clearly isn't working.I love Duff, but besides a great bass sound I don't rate his songwriting chops very highly at all- even in GNR.Duff's song contributions are usually cheesey and hamfisted, he was brilliant in Guns N Roses but if he were to rejoin I don't see that as translating to brilliant songs (even 3 and a half minute "punk rockers" ) or Axl changing his ways. Edited June 1, 2014 by DR DOOM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 We all know this "new band" is Axl making the best out of a bad situation since all the guys he wanted ( Freese, Bucket, Brain, Robin) left the sinking ship.It clearly isn't working.I love Duff, but besides a great bass sound I don't rate his songwriting chops very highly at all- even in GNR.Duff's song contributions are usually cheesey and hamfisted, he was brilliant in Guns N Roses but if he were to rejoin I don't see that as translating to brilliant songs (even 3 and a half minute "punk rockers" ) or Axl changing his ways.He knows how a Guns song should sound like and how to get there. He improves upon ideas, and sometimes comes up with great ones too. I totally believe he can bring some of that classic Gn'R magic to the studio and help Axl write great songs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 We all know this "new band" is Axl making the best out of a bad situation since all the guys he wanted ( Freese, Bucket, Brain, Robin) left the sinking ship.It clearly isn't working.I love Duff, but besides a great bass sound I don't rate his songwriting chops very highly at all- even in GNR.Duff's song contributions are usually cheesey and hamfisted, he was brilliant in Guns N Roses but if he were to rejoin I don't see that as translating to brilliant songs (even 3 and a half minute "punk rockers" ) or Axl changing his ways.He knows how a Guns song should sound like and how to get there. He improves upon ideas, and sometimes comes up with great ones too. I totally believe he can bring some of that classic Gn'R magic to the studio and help Axl write great songs.Even Duff can't save this band from the #shitfest that is DJ Ashba on guitar.The idea of Axl in the studio, writing songs (at the same time as another musician) is also quite laughable at this point, though I admire your passion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 We all know this "new band" is Axl making the best out of a bad situation since all the guys he wanted ( Freese, Bucket, Brain, Robin) left the sinking ship.It clearly isn't working.I love Duff, but besides a great bass sound I don't rate his songwriting chops very highly at all- even in GNR.Duff's song contributions are usually cheesey and hamfisted, he was brilliant in Guns N Roses but if he were to rejoin I don't see that as translating to brilliant songs (even 3 and a half minute "punk rockers" ) or Axl changing his ways.He knows how a Guns song should sound like and how to get there. He improves upon ideas, and sometimes comes up with great ones too. I totally believe he can bring some of that classic Gn'R magic to the studio and help Axl write great songs.The problem is Axl doesn´t want that classic sound anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 We all know this "new band" is Axl making the best out of a bad situation since all the guys he wanted ( Freese, Bucket, Brain, Robin) left the sinking ship.It clearly isn't working.I love Duff, but besides a great bass sound I don't rate his songwriting chops very highly at all- even in GNR.Duff's song contributions are usually cheesey and hamfisted, he was brilliant in Guns N Roses but if he were to rejoin I don't see that as translating to brilliant songs (even 3 and a half minute "punk rockers" ) or Axl changing his ways.He knows how a Guns song should sound like and how to get there. He improves upon ideas, and sometimes comes up with great ones too. I totally believe he can bring some of that classic Gn'R magic to the studio and help Axl write great songs.Even Duff can't save this band from the #shitfest that is DJ Ashba on guitar.The idea of Axl in the studio, writing songs (at the same time as another musician) is also quite laughable at this point, though I admire your passion.Just because I believe Duff can do it, doesn't mean I think it will actually happen. Axl can take something average Dj wrote and make it great. Dj's style is no different then Slash's which Duff knows all about and how to work with and the right approach. There is potential there, that's all I'm saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 We all know this "new band" is Axl making the best out of a bad situation since all the guys he wanted ( Freese, Bucket, Brain, Robin) left the sinking ship.It clearly isn't working.I love Duff, but besides a great bass sound I don't rate his songwriting chops very highly at all- even in GNR.Duff's song contributions are usually cheesey and hamfisted, he was brilliant in Guns N Roses but if he were to rejoin I don't see that as translating to brilliant songs (even 3 and a half minute "punk rockers" ) or Axl changing his ways.He knows how a Guns song should sound like and how to get there. He improves upon ideas, and sometimes comes up with great ones too. I totally believe he can bring some of that classic Gn'R magic to the studio and help Axl write great songs.The problem is Axl doesn´t want that classic sound anymore.Close. The problem is Axl is lazy, bitter, and doesn't give a fuck most of the time. Many classic sounding moments in Chinese, the AC/DC covers, hired Ashba, and so on and so forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 We all know this "new band" is Axl making the best out of a bad situation since all the guys he wanted ( Freese, Bucket, Brain, Robin) left the sinking ship.It clearly isn't working.I love Duff, but besides a great bass sound I don't rate his songwriting chops very highly at all- even in GNR.Duff's song contributions are usually cheesey and hamfisted, he was brilliant in Guns N Roses but if he were to rejoin I don't see that as translating to brilliant songs (even 3 and a half minute "punk rockers" ) or Axl changing his ways.He knows how a Guns song should sound like and how to get there. He improves upon ideas, and sometimes comes up with great ones too. I totally believe he can bring some of that classic Gn'R magic to the studio and help Axl write great songs.The problem is Axl doesn´t want that classic sound anymore.Close. The problem is Axl is lazy, bitter, and doesn't give a fuck most of the time. Many classic sounding moments in Chinese, the AC/DC covers, hired Ashba, and so on and so forth.Classic moments in CD? Please I´d like to know what song in CD is like Rocket Queen, Mr. Brownstone, Perfect Crime, Locomotive, YCBM or Don´t Damn Me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Street Of Dreams, This I Love, Some parts of There Was A Time, Catcher in many ways, Chinese Democracy is a pretty straight forward rocker, not unlike what VR did in Contraband, only with different production and many layers.Duff digs the Chinese material. Axl is still a classic rock fan. Classic as in more Illusions, less AFD. It's only Axl after all so it's logical it will take a more Queen direction. But that's classic as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Street Of Dreams, This I Love, Some parts of There Was A Time, Catcher in many ways, Chinese Democracy is a pretty straight forward rocker, not unlike what VR did in Contraband, only with different production and many layers.Duff digs the Chinese material. Axl is still a classic rock fan. Classic as in more Illusions, less AFD. It's only Axl after all so it's logical it will take a more Queen direction. But that's classic as well.I´m afraid we have a different idea of what classic GN´R sound is. It´s ok. You stick with your idea and I stick with mine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DR DOOM Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I agree that The Blues and TWAT wouldn't be that out of place on the UYI's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Young_Gun Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I voted yes but answer is more complex.Duff will only return if he's given the place he deserves, as a founding member, not an employee and that includes not only playing shows but writing and recording new music.Duff is our only hope to save GN'R. He's the one who makes Axl happy, who Axl has respect for and listens to. If Axl can relay on Duff and pass to him some of the responsability of leading this band, we will have a new album and a better Axl, as it's been proven in every show Mckagan joined to play in the last two months.Don't set yourself up for disappointment. It probably won't happen. But even if Duff won't comeback, he can still work with Axl in the studio, send ideas, and perform with the band live here and there. It wll be better then nothing. It shows that this new band is not working.When has the new band ever properly worked? The current line up has been together for 5 years and have never released a song written together. Chances are the next record will be the old Bucket/Finck/Brain material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinkAboutYou Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 I don't think Duff is coming back fully to replace Tommy just a few gigs here and there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron MikeyJ Posted June 1, 2014 Share Posted June 1, 2014 Duff brings a positive energy to everything, gnr NEEDS him. I think he knows that. Hell I have said it to him on twitter a few times I feel very strongly that he is the man to save this band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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