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GN'R died the day Izzy left in 1991. They still soldiered on as a mildly entertaining caricature of themselves until 1993 but really it was over the day Stradlin left as he provided all of the songwriting and integrity. Axl and Slash, left to their own devices, are just two jumped up 'rock stars', reenacting the same pathetic relationships as Jagger/Richards and Tyler/Perry. We have seen it all before - there is nothing new there. The fact that the old band ended their reign with a tragic and wholly unlistenable collection of covers, a gaggle of solo projects and a lawsuit tells you all you need to know. Axl's new band is a travesty.

In what world was the Illusion tour version of GnR a "mildly entertaining caricature of themselves". I could maybe accept you thinking they were a caricature of themselves if your'e so into the Izzy was GNR thing but to call them "mildly entertaining" at the absolute height of their career? WTF?

As for TSI? Your assesment of it being tragic and wholly unlistenable is so far off as well it's not even funny. Is it incredible? No. Is it pretty decent? Yes.

The new band is a travesty that we agree on.

Absolute height of their career?

Are you serious?

The absolute height of Guns n Roses career happened somewhere between 1985, when they played together for the first time, and the last show with Izzy in Wembley, in 1991.

If you ask me I`d say that this whole period was higher and better than any other rock band in history.

Then, like Diesel said, GNR died when Izzy left, and no matter how many miliions of people attended the shows in UYI Tour, that was really not Guns n Roses.

It was kinda fun at times, but it was mostly not.

Axl will tell you that if you ask him.

Stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

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In what world was the Illusion tour version of GnR a "mildly entertaining caricature of themselves". I could maybe accept you thinking they were a caricature of themselves if your'e so into the Izzy was GNR thing but to call them "mildly entertaining" at the absolute height of their career? WTF?

As for TSI? Your assesment of it being tragic and wholly unlistenable is so far off as well it's not even funny. Is it incredible? No. Is it pretty decent? Yes.

The new band is a travesty that we agree on.

TSI is better than U2's last two albums.

And once again a person shows what a moron they are as U2 has nothing to do with any of this conversation but again if bashing U2 by altering my quotes boosts your insecure love for GnR then by all means.

GN'R died the day Izzy left in 1991. They still soldiered on as a mildly entertaining caricature of themselves until 1993 but really it was over the day Stradlin left as he provided all of the songwriting and integrity. Axl and Slash, left to their own devices, are just two jumped up 'rock stars', reenacting the same pathetic relationships as Jagger/Richards and Tyler/Perry. We have seen it all before - there is nothing new there. The fact that the old band ended their reign with a tragic and wholly unlistenable collection of covers, a gaggle of solo projects and a lawsuit tells you all you need to know. Axl's new band is a travesty.

In what world was the Illusion tour version of GnR a "mildly entertaining caricature of themselves". I could maybe accept you thinking they were a caricature of themselves if your'e so into the Izzy was GNR thing but to call them "mildly entertaining" at the absolute height of their career? WTF?

As for TSI? Your assesment of it being tragic and wholly unlistenable is so far off as well it's not even funny. Is it incredible? No. Is it pretty decent? Yes.

The new band is a travesty that we agree on.

1992-3? Tracy and Roberta and the horns; the cheesy big videos; Axl in little white shorts; ego ramps? This all happened, post Izzy. And there is the simple fact that they never wrote a song again without Stradlin! They were basically fucked.

TSI is excrement. It is one of the worst albums ever made.

But that's not what you said. You called GnR post Izzy Illusion era "mildly entertaining". Tell me the Paris show is merely "mildly entertaining" or that they were "mildly entertaining" at the tribute to Freddy. GnR were entertaining as fuck during this era despite the bloated distractions.

I think your opinion on TSI? is excrement.

I do believe I am in the majority on TSI.

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Safe to assume that all of us want more than what axl has given us since the formation of NuGnr.

But I was thinking..if you told me back in 1995 when you basically knew Gnr was over and you may never hear from Axl again, that we would have tours in 02, 06, 10 etc..and have CD in 2008, i honestly would have taken that and been very happy, so i am going to stop bitcin.

I am just curious if anyone else feels the same way?

It's never really bothered me either way, to be honest. Back in the 80s, there were some bands, like Def Leppard, who did take an age to record an album, so you just got into other bands. I think the only problem I have now, and I don't know if it is because I am older, the quality of albums (in their entirety) has declined. The 60s and 70s were rich with good albums, even the 80s and 90s had alot of good albums (including general pop music.). Now though, I listen to alot of albums but cannot get to the end of them.

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GN'R died the day Izzy left in 1991. They still soldiered on as a mildly entertaining caricature of themselves until 1993 but really it was over the day Stradlin left as he provided all of the songwriting and integrity. Axl and Slash, left to their own devices, are just two jumped up 'rock stars', reenacting the same pathetic relationships as Jagger/Richards and Tyler/Perry. We have seen it all before - there is nothing new there. The fact that the old band ended their reign with a tragic and wholly unlistenable collection of covers, a gaggle of solo projects and a lawsuit tells you all you need to know. Axl's new band is a travesty.

In what world was the Illusion tour version of GnR a "mildly entertaining caricature of themselves". I could maybe accept you thinking they were a caricature of themselves if your'e so into the Izzy was GNR thing but to call them "mildly entertaining" at the absolute height of their career? WTF?

As for TSI? Your assesment of it being tragic and wholly unlistenable is so far off as well it's not even funny. Is it incredible? No. Is it pretty decent? Yes.

The new band is a travesty that we agree on.

Absolute height of their career?

Are you serious?

The absolute height of Guns n Roses career happened somewhere between 1985, when they played together for the first time, and the last show with Izzy in Wembley, in 1991.

If you ask me I`d say that this whole period was higher and better than any other rock band in history.

Then, like Diesel said, GNR died when Izzy left, and no matter how many miliions of people attended the shows in UYI Tour, that was really not Guns n Roses.

It was kinda fun at times, but it was mostly not.

Axl will tell you that if you ask him.

Your post is nothing but delisonal fanboy garbage. If you don't believe the Illusion era was the height of GnR's career where they were absolutely untouchable and at their peak in popularity you're either A) not very bright or B) not old enough to remember it. To sit there and say that somewhere between 1985 and the first time they played together was the height of it all is just fucking cupcake bullshit. And then to sit there and say when Izzy left it was no longer GnR is also complete and utter nonsense. Nobody including you derranged fanboys was saying anything like that in the moment.

Some of you are so lost in your fandom of Axl(and anything he does) or your fandom of when GnR fit in your back pocket that you have absolutely ZERO common sense left. Its pretty scary to see how insane some of you are.

the peak of Guns N Roses career was 1985? :facepalm: I bet you're a big fan of the Tracii Guns era GnR too right? Best band of all time I'm sure. :rolleyes:

hello BONO

you didnt understand anything that i said

you got it all wrong

your answer shows that you dont know much about GNR

and you dont know much about what made GNR great

besides your reply was very unpleasant to read as you didnt try to be nice -- you tried hard the other way

so I am not even bothering answering this

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Bono, this is EXACTLY why I can't visit this part of the forum. I just can't do this anymore. You're gonna be going around in circles until you eventually get frustrated with yourself.

And what makes it more sad is Diesel is a very smart member of this forum. I can get saying "GNR died when Izzy left", but you know full well GNR was more than "mildly entertaining" after he was gone. So to hear Diesel saying something that sounds like what an uneducated GNR would say is sad. Cause either he's joking or he's lost common sense when discussing this band.

There are TWO periods of Guns N Roses. Thats it! There's the Appetite period, and there's the period where they were the biggest god damn band in the world, more commonly known as the Illusions period/tour or the post-Izzy GNR. They were around for 6 active years, not getting big and well known till about the 2nd or 3rd year in. Every thing you mentioned that made them overblown was all Axl's doing. Every single one. So don't blame the band. And to call TSI one of the worst albums ever made is simply an asinine statement. Its not a great album, and you may not even like it. But to say its one of the worst albums ever made leads me to believe that you've never even actually heard it. Cause I can't imagine anyone thats heard it having such disdain for it. It may not be your cup of tea, but to dismiss it entirely IMO is as stupid as what Axl's has done to this band since 2000.

I don't know what else to say. Bono, don't waste your time. Its not worth the effort. I'm already mad I responded. I just wanted you to know you weren't crazy and these are the types of arguments I had for years until I just stopped coming to this section.

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Hahahaha! If you had told me in 1995 he'd release only one album and not until 2008 and only properly tour 3 times between 1995-2015 'd have said " WTF? Get outta here with that shit. That would fucking suck!" Now in 2015 I'm saying "WTF was that shit? That fucking sucked!"

Whether it was then or now the scenario that unfolded is a joke. It would not have been an appealing scenario back then and it sure as hell is't an appealing or even remotely satsfying scenario now.

Absolutely right.

Also add in that when he finally dropped that album in 2008, he would do it under the cover of night, and never really stand behind and give it the best chance to succeed. That it would be a total half ass operation.

This is how beaten down we are as a fanbase. We try and sell ourselves this was a great outcome....you know, if you think about it.

Why do we as a fanbase always have to convince ourselves things look good, just so long as you only use one eye and squint heavily with the one that's open?

Can't it just be good, on its own? No caveats? Or, at minimum...competent?

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GN'R died the day Izzy left in 1991. They still soldiered on as a mildly entertaining caricature of themselves until 1993 but really it was over the day Stradlin left as he provided all of the songwriting and integrity. Axl and Slash, left to their own devices, are just two jumped up 'rock stars', reenacting the same pathetic relationships as Jagger/Richards and Tyler/Perry. We have seen it all before - there is nothing new there. The fact that the old band ended their reign with a tragic and wholly unlistenable collection of covers, a gaggle of solo projects and a lawsuit tells you all you need to know. Axl's new band is a travesty.

In what world was the Illusion tour version of GnR a "mildly entertaining caricature of themselves". I could maybe accept you thinking they were a caricature of themselves if your'e so into the Izzy was GNR thing but to call them "mildly entertaining" at the absolute height of their career? WTF?

As for TSI? Your assesment of it being tragic and wholly unlistenable is so far off as well it's not even funny. Is it incredible? No. Is it pretty decent? Yes.

The new band is a travesty that we agree on.

1992-3? Tracy and Roberta and the horns; the cheesy big videos; Axl in little white shorts; ego ramps? This all happened, post Izzy. And there is the simple fact that they never wrote a song again without Stradlin! They were basically fucked.

TSI is excrement. It is one of the worst albums ever made.

I'm a relatively new fan and I just can't really see the point of TSI - at least not yet. I was just about old enough to be there when punk first hit (okay, I was 12) and TSI sounds like a pardoy of what I first heard (Stranglers etc.)

I'm okay with the white shorts though ; )

Hahahaha! If you had told me in 1995 he'd release only one album and not until 2008 and only properly tour 3 times between 1995-2015 'd have said " WTF? Get outta here with that shit. That would fucking suck!" Now in 2015 I'm saying "WTF was that shit? That fucking sucked!"

Whether it was then or now the scenario that unfolded is a joke. It would not have been an appealing scenario back then and it sure as hell is't an appealing or even remotely satsfying scenario now.

Absolutely right.

Also add in that when he finally dropped that album in 2008, he would do it under the cover of night, and never really stand behind and give it the best chance to succeed. That it would be a total half ass operation.

This is how beaten down we are as a fanbase. We try and sell ourselves this was a great outcome....you know, if you think about it.

Why do we as a fanbase always have to convince ourselves things look good, just so long as you only use one eye and squint heavily with the one that's open?

Can't it just be good, on its own? No caveats? Or, at minimum...competent?

Why do we as a fanbase always have to convince ourselves things look good, just so long as you only use one eye and squint heavily with the one that's open?

I think it is cos we invest a lot of energy - physically and emotionally as fans - whoever it is we've followed for years. It's prob a way of justifying that expenditure. (Financial too if you've bought a lot of stuff and been to lots of gigs.)

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I envy those who had the opportunity to see real Guns N' Roses back in the 90s. The bootlegs are amazing, so I believe the live experience was incredible.

I got to see them in 91 & 93. The air was *electric* at both shows. Before you even worry about the performance itself, the environment was amazing. I saw the newer line ups in 02, twice in 06, 4 times in 11 and 3 times in 12. Of all of those, only 2 had the same feel in the air as the UYI shows.

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I envy those who had the opportunity to see real Guns N' Roses back in the 90s. The bootlegs are amazing, so I believe the live experience was incredible.

I got to see them in 91 & 93. The air was *electric* at both shows. Before you even worry about the performance itself, the environment was amazing. I saw the newer line ups in 02, twice in 06, 4 times in 11 and 3 times in 12. Of all of those, only 2 had the same feel in the air as the UYI shows.

Which ones?

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I envy those who had the opportunity to see real Guns N' Roses back in the 90s. The bootlegs are amazing, so I believe the live experience was incredible.

I got to see them in 91 & 93. The air was *electric* at both shows. Before you even worry about the performance itself, the environment was amazing. I saw the newer line ups in 02, twice in 06, 4 times in 11 and 3 times in 12. Of all of those, only 2 had the same feel in the air as the UYI shows.

Which ones?

The first Hammerstein show followed by Detroit UCaP 12. Both of those shows honestly had that same electricity in the air that both UYI tour shows had for me. None of the others even came close :/

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I envy those who had the opportunity to see real Guns N' Roses back in the 90s. The bootlegs are amazing, so I believe the live experience was incredible.

I got to see them in 91 & 93. The air was *electric* at both shows. Before you even worry about the performance itself, the environment was amazing. I saw the newer line ups in 02, twice in 06, 4 times in 11 and 3 times in 12. Of all of those, only 2 had the same feel in the air as the UYI shows.

Which ones?

The first Hammerstein show followed by Detroit UCaP 12. Both of those shows honestly had that same electricity in the air that both UYI tour shows had for me. None of the others even came close :/

2002 MSG had an incredibly electric atmosphere moreso than when I saw them in MSG in 1991. The first Hammerstein show was up there but everything I've seen since has been blah and bland.

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GN'R died the day Izzy left in 1991. They still soldiered on as a mildly entertaining caricature of themselves until 1993 but really it was over the day Stradlin left as he provided all of the songwriting and integrity. Axl and Slash, left to their own devices, are just two jumped up 'rock stars', reenacting the same pathetic relationships as Jagger/Richards and Tyler/Perry. We have seen it all before - there is nothing new there. The fact that the old band ended their reign with a tragic and wholly unlistenable collection of covers, a gaggle of solo projects and a lawsuit tells you all you need to know. Axl's new band is a travesty.

In what world was the Illusion tour version of GnR a "mildly entertaining caricature of themselves". I could maybe accept you thinking they were a caricature of themselves if your'e so into the Izzy was GNR thing but to call them "mildly entertaining" at the absolute height of their career? WTF?

As for TSI? Your assesment of it being tragic and wholly unlistenable is so far off as well it's not even funny. Is it incredible? No. Is it pretty decent? Yes.

The new band is a travesty that we agree on.

Absolute height of their career?

Are you serious?

The absolute height of Guns n Roses career happened somewhere between 1985, when they played together for the first time, and the last show with Izzy in Wembley, in 1991.

If you ask me I`d say that this whole period was higher and better than any other rock band in history.

Then, like Diesel said, GNR died when Izzy left, and no matter how many miliions of people attended the shows in UYI Tour, that was really not Guns n Roses.

It was kinda fun at times, but it was mostly not.

Axl will tell you that if you ask him.

I would say on a live setting Izzy doesn't matter, because his guitar was mostly inaudible.... he looks cool, but his voice mostly suck on a live setting and by 1991 he was not really into it. (probably because the band got too big and he have to deal with junkies/egomaniacs plus his own addiction)

But from a songwriting point of view: yes, you and diesel were right. That is why Axl still calls Izzy in 95 for the Duff/Izzy tape. the funny thing is Izzy doesn't even want to record his OWN songs... he just loose interest when they kicked out Steven, when Axl started his diva persona dominate the shows, when Slash redo his rhytm parts etc...

TSI? could have been better, but i think the band just having fun, that's all. they don't really care at that point...

I bet my ass that the SFTD cover was an attempt to get Izzy back somehow (or Axl could show to Izzy that WE CAN MAKE IT, surprise motherfucker)

now that turns out to not work (but i liked that cover)

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I envy those who had the opportunity to see real Guns N' Roses back in the 90s. The bootlegs are amazing, so I believe the live experience was incredible.

I got to see them in 91 & 93. The air was *electric* at both shows. Before you even worry about the performance itself, the environment was amazing. I saw the newer line ups in 02, twice in 06, 4 times in 11 and 3 times in 12. Of all of those, only 2 had the same feel in the air as the UYI shows.

Which ones?

The first Hammerstein show followed by Detroit UCaP 12. Both of those shows honestly had that same electricity in the air that both UYI tour shows had for me. None of the others even came close :/

2002 MSG had an incredibly electric atmosphere moreso than when I saw them in MSG in 1991. The first Hammerstein show was up there but everything I've seen since has been blah and bland.

So, you saw Locomotive live (if i remember correctly from a thread a year ago)

fuck you :lol::axl92:

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I envy those who had the opportunity to see real Guns N' Roses back in the 90s. The bootlegs are amazing, so I believe the live experience was incredible.

I got to see them in 91 & 93. The air was *electric* at both shows. Before you even worry about the performance itself, the environment was amazing. I saw the newer line ups in 02, twice in 06, 4 times in 11 and 3 times in 12. Of all of those, only 2 had the same feel in the air as the UYI shows.

Which ones?

The first Hammerstein show followed by Detroit UCaP 12. Both of those shows honestly had that same electricity in the air that both UYI tour shows had for me. None of the others even came close :/

2002 MSG had an incredibly electric atmosphere moreso than when I saw them in MSG in 1991. The first Hammerstein show was up there but everything I've seen since has been blah and bland.

So, you saw Locomotive live (if i remember correctly from a thread a year ago)

fuck you :lol::axl92:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2zBcbWfAbI

indeed I did..and they also played breakdown that night....2 rarities in 1 show

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I guess they didn't need Izzy to put on a decent Illusion show. It's basically the Axl Rose show with Slash more active on stage than Izzy.

But when they went back in the studio they seemed to miss Izzys songs. He brought a lot of the creative impetus if not straight out songs. Izzy can write a tune.

Axl has claimed he saw that line up as dead before Illusion came out. That's what the Dead poster on the inside cover is about. Axl and Izzy songs refer to this throughout the UYI songs. Dust n Bones, Dead Horse, Pretty Tied Up, 14 Years. There's a definite vibe of this is over from the Indianna boyz.

Tracii Guns recently said Izzy has "foresight". So I think when he decides to come back from desert we might get a reunion. Until then it's bon voyage.

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I envy those who had the opportunity to see real Guns N' Roses back in the 90s. The bootlegs are amazing, so I believe the live experience was incredible.

I got to see them in 91 & 93. The air was *electric* at both shows. Before you even worry about the performance itself, the environment was amazing. I saw the newer line ups in 02, twice in 06, 4 times in 11 and 3 times in 12. Of all of those, only 2 had the same feel in the air as the UYI shows.

Which ones?

The first Hammerstein show followed by Detroit UCaP 12. Both of those shows honestly had that same electricity in the air that both UYI tour shows had for me. None of the others even came close :/

2002 MSG had an incredibly electric atmosphere moreso than when I saw them in MSG in 1991. The first Hammerstein show was up there but everything I've seen since has been blah and bland.

So, you saw Locomotive live (if i remember correctly from a thread a year ago)

fuck you :lol::axl92:

indeed I did..and they also played breakdown that night....2 rarities in 1 show

Kindly fuck off and die. :)

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In 1995, after seeing how overblown the Illusion days had been, it just didn't seem sustainable so I wasn't surprised to see it fall apart. I think its cool Axl has tried to persevere and complete his own original vision, hence Chinese Democracy. It just wasn't built to last and the musical climate was changing regardless.

KISS tried to do a grunge album a little too late (Carnival of Souls) and went full blown Nostalgia instead. Aerosmith was adjusting,or trying to, as the 90's went on to the 2000's but eventually quit looking forward somewhere between Nine Lives and Just Push Play.

As much as I want a reunion, I wouldn't want to see GNR hit that apex where they only start looking backward. With that said, I'd love to see them make a new album after a reunion, but not like the others have been doing. Motley's last album was full of cliche songs about being Motley Crue, same with Aerosmith's 2012 album (even though that wasn't a reunion). IMO Van Halen's 2012 album showcased they were trying to recreate the past. At least in '96 the Roth VH material was forward thinking.

Either do NuGNR right finally, or a reunion/new album right, or don't do anything as to tarnish still being a band that is actively growing forward, albeit slow as hell.

/rambling

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A reunion album comes with a nostalgia tag that is hard to shake.

But basing it around an Izzy solo album then getting Slash to work on them. Then Slash would need to do a heavy rocker with Axl lyrics. Then Axl does one epic with Slash, like the answer to Madagascar. If there's one ballad...

But I kind of see where Axl sees more potential to do something different with Fortus or Dj. I could imagine a Evanescence type ballad with Dj. Or a ballad like I Don't Love You by My Chemical Romance.

The hype around a reunion would be so much that a record seems impossible. So they would basically tour bring back Dust n Bones, think about You, 14 Years, Attitude, Down on the Farm, Bad Obsession, Double Talking Jive, maybe some AFD songs like My Michelle, Out Ta Get Me, Move to the City, Mama Kin.

A record you'd expect to be like a mix of where each guy is now. They seem more seperate now. Each guy has his story. To bring them all back together and gel thematically would be the hardest thing. We know the music would kick ass but it's like what do they have to say?

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A reunion album comes with a nostalgia tag that is hard to shake.

But basing it around an Izzy solo album then getting Slash to work on them. Then Slash would need to do a heavy rocker with Axl lyrics. Then Axl does one epic with Slash, like the answer to Madagascar. If there's one ballad...

But I kind of see where Axl sees more potential to do something different with Fortus or Dj. I could imagine a Evanescence type ballad with Dj. Or a ballad like I Don't Love You by My Chemical Romance.

The hype around a reunion would be so much that a record seems impossible. So they would basically tour bring back Dust n Bones, think about You, 14 Years, Attitude, Down on the Farm, Bad Obsession, Double Talking Jive, maybe some AFD songs like My Michelle, Out Ta Get Me, Move to the City, Mama Kin.

A record you'd expect to be like a mix of where each guy is now. They seem more seperate now. Each guy has his story. To bring them all back together and gel thematically would be the hardest thing. We know the music would kick ass but it's like what do they have to say?

A my chemical romance type song from slash? Ah what mate? How about no thank you there lol I need a bowl of whatever you're smoking there haha

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A reunion album comes with a nostalgia tag that is hard to shake.

But basing it around an Izzy solo album then getting Slash to work on them. Then Slash would need to do a heavy rocker with Axl lyrics. Then Axl does one epic with Slash, like the answer to Madagascar. If there's one ballad...

But I kind of see where Axl sees more potential to do something different with Fortus or Dj. I could imagine a Evanescence type ballad with Dj. Or a ballad like I Don't Love You by My Chemical Romance.

The hype around a reunion would be so much that a record seems impossible. So they would basically tour bring back Dust n Bones, think about You, 14 Years, Attitude, Down on the Farm, Bad Obsession, Double Talking Jive, maybe some AFD songs like My Michelle, Out Ta Get Me, Move to the City, Mama Kin.

A record you'd expect to be like a mix of where each guy is now. They seem more seperate now. Each guy has his story. To bring them all back together and gel thematically would be the hardest thing. We know the music would kick ass but it's like what do they have to say?

A my chemical romance type song from slash? Ah what mate? How about no thank you there lol I need a bowl of whatever you're smoking there haha
I said Dj. I think he has long term value. But it might not happen.
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I didn't have the chance to see Gn'Rs 'real mccoy' AFD lineup playing and it's something I'll regret to the end of my days....but damn I saw the UYI tour in 92 and it was a mind blowing experience nonetheless with Axl at the top of his game, although the rest of the band was getting a bit bloated already... Then I've watched nuGnR lineups back in '06 and '10 and loved both shows, but it wasn't really Gn'R any more...not after watching the '92 gig anyways.

Fuck I'm feeling old with so many memories.... :facepalm:

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A reunion album comes with a nostalgia tag that is hard to shake.

But basing it around an Izzy solo album then getting Slash to work on them. Then Slash would need to do a heavy rocker with Axl lyrics. Then Axl does one epic with Slash, like the answer to Madagascar. If there's one ballad...

But I kind of see where Axl sees more potential to do something different with Fortus or Dj. I could imagine a Evanescence type ballad with Dj. Or a ballad like I Don't Love You by My Chemical Romance.

The hype around a reunion would be so much that a record seems impossible. So they would basically tour bring back Dust n Bones, think about You, 14 Years, Attitude, Down on the Farm, Bad Obsession, Double Talking Jive, maybe some AFD songs like My Michelle, Out Ta Get Me, Move to the City, Mama Kin.

A record you'd expect to be like a mix of where each guy is now. They seem more seperate now. Each guy has his story. To bring them all back together and gel thematically would be the hardest thing. We know the music would kick ass but it's like what do they have to say?

A my chemical romance type song from slash? Ah what mate? How about no thank you there lol I need a bowl of whatever you're smoking there haha
I said Dj. I think he has long term value. But it might not happen.

Your right I read that wrong im sorry I could see that from DJ as well

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Hard to say. The mystery and suspense of Chinese Democracy with the GN'R name was what carried me through all those dry years. It was exciting and part of a good time of my life I look back on fondly.

War Damn Eagle!!!!

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