Alt nation article: Slash and Duff working on unreleased CD tracks

[Original]

Slash talking about CD-

 

[IkaruFunk]

10 hours ago, Rovim said:

I think Slash comes with many musical advantages over any other guitar player just cause it's Guns and Axl. It just won't be the same cause Axl said it was "done". Like the vision came together with those players. Musically it's been said, just not heard if that makes sense.

Not sure what I prefer. Bottom line is as long as he'll actually release another album I trust that he'll use the right pieces to form the Gn'R puzzle. It will probably get a boost in the more rocking shit from Slash and Duff.

I don't know what's more interesting to me: a virgin CD ll, or buttfucked by everyone. And also, I feel like it's really a double album, there potentially more rocking tunes that just didn't get the chance to be released.

Slash can bring his thing to it though and that's hard to resist. The Use Your Illusion line up kinda but with a musical direction this time, Axl's tinkering mostly covered. I trust Axl to bring it to a high standard of quality, just not sure about actually releasing it.

Hope that Axl will find the confidence to unleash his music soon. 

[NOVEMBER COMA]

On ‎11‎/‎03‎/‎2016 at 2:00 PM, wasted said:

I cross referencee two things. Remember the story when Axl built a chicken coop for Bucket in the studio and Bucket was watching porn and flinging his cum around and Axl brought his wolf down to the studio? Axl told Bucket to get the porn out of the studio as its not what he want associated with his record. I kind of took that idea and wondered if thats why Silkworms isnt on CD, because the lyrics dont fit the righteous geopolitical slant of CD. 

lol, I have heard the chicken coop build but that was it. Haven't heard the other stuff. Between that & Robin with the TV in his closet & the trapese in his backyard, Axl sure did employ some strange characters. I met DJ in 2013 & he seemed quite down to earth & normal in comparison.

[NOVEMBER COMA]

On ‎13‎/‎03‎/‎2016 at 4:14 PM, Original said:

Slash talking about CD-

 

Cool snippet, I wonder what his preferences would be to play live? & he listened to it before release? WTF?

[Mr. Dude]

• I don't see any reason they shouldn't work on the unreleased tracks. I wouldn't mind if their first point of business studio-wise was to rerecord Chinese Democracy in its entirety in the same way the 99 Lineup re-recorded Appetite for Destruction.
• Axl needs to keep GNR moving forward and sometimes the best way to do that is by going back. If nothing else it would serve as an exercise that is essential in incorporating and paying tribute to all elements of the GNR legacy.
• Perhaps then they can make the next record a double album of the 99 lineup's version of AFD and the 2016 lineup's version of CD.

[NOVEMBER COMA]

45 minutes ago, Mr. Dude said:

• I don't see any reason they shouldn't work on the unreleased tracks. I wouldn't mind if their first point of business studio-wise was to rerecord Chinese Democracy in its entirety in the same way the 99 Lineup re-recorded Appetite for Destruction.
• Axl needs to keep GNR moving forward and sometimes the best way to do that is by going back. If nothing else it would serve as an exercise that is essential in incorporating and paying tribute to all elements of the GNR legacy.
• Perhaps then they can make the next record a double album of the 99 lineup's version of AFD and the 2016 lineup's version of CD.

Interesting idea but why wouldn't they just record a new album with totally new material? I don't see the point in re recording CD & I never saw the point of Nu-Guns re recording AFD unless it was to familiarise the line up with the sound & process for touring, not sure. The unreleased tracks recorded since Nu-guns took over may never see the light of day imo. There would be a lot of material coming in from the Slash & Duff camps & a fresh collaboration may take place.

 

 

[Original]

2 hours ago, NOVEMBER COMA said:

Cool snippet, I wonder what his preferences would be to play live? & he listened to it before release? WTF?

He's Slash.  He can probably get a copy of any bands new album before it is released.   

[Randy Jesus]

On 3/7/2016 at 6:03 AM, Silent Jay said:

I'm sure Slash was blown away by Atlas Shrugged. And if it will be included in the next best of collection then that mean it's an instant classic.

Slash playing Bumblefoots solo. :\

[wasted]

2 hours ago, NOVEMBER COMA said:

lol, I have heard the chicken coop build but that was it. Haven't heard the other stuff. Between that & Robin with the TV in his closet & the trapese in his backyard, Axl sure did employ some strange characters. I met DJ in 2013 & he seemed quite down to earth & normal in comparison.

Dj is more from the dudes of bro Crue hair metal camp isn't he? Given his age he could be a GNR fan who plays guitar. 

You can see why Axl overlooked image to get the best guitar on CD. But Bucket isn't really a road warrior or blue collar icon. Ron and Dj probably did bring GNR back to "normality" image wise. Bucket and Finck did kind of look 90s. 

The some of the material that came out with CD's release did seem a little more crazy Axl than righteous Axl.

Shackler's 

If the World

Scraped

Sorry

it's like his way back to having fun again. 

Then you know Mad Men, Don Draper inspires Vegas Residencies and True Detective inspires Axl to go back into the case of the missing Slash. Robert Durst is like Axl saying it was my fault. Then the Bud commercial is like old school imagery. He asks Indinesnian prez to forgive the drug mules. Axl learns to forgive Slash. The Money Pacman fight Axl wants a rematch for the fans. Finally he gets it and calls Duff to broker the deal of the century. 

 

 

[wasted]

2 hours ago, Mr. Dude said:

• I don't see any reason they shouldn't work on the unreleased tracks. I wouldn't mind if their first point of business studio-wise was to rerecord Chinese Democracy in its entirety in the same way the 99 Lineup re-recorded Appetite for Destruction.
• Axl needs to keep GNR moving forward and sometimes the best way to do that is by going back. If nothing else it would serve as an exercise that is essential in incorporating and paying tribute to all elements of the GNR legacy.
• Perhaps then they can make the next record a double album of the 99 lineup's version of AFD and the 2016 lineup's version of CD.

I'm onboard.

Re-recorded AFD and CD released as 2-CD set for the tour with 2 new tracks. 

[NOVEMBER COMA]

53 minutes ago, Original said:

He's Slash.  He can probably get a copy of any bands new album before it is released.   

Well said. I wonder if Axl ever enjoyed VR?

[NOVEMBER COMA]

15 minutes ago, wasted said:

Dj is more from the dudes of bro Crue hair metal camp isn't he? Given his age he could be a GNR fan who plays guitar. 

You can see why Axl overlooked image to get the best guitar on CD. But Bucket isn't really a road warrior or blue collar icon. Ron and Dj probably did bring GNR back to "normality" image wise. Bucket and Finck did kind of look 90s. 

The some of the material that came out with CD's release did seem a little more crazy Axl than righteous Axl.

Shackler's 

If the World

Scraped

Sorry

it's like his way back to having fun again. 

Then you know Mad Men, Don Draper inspires Vegas Residencies and True Detective inspires Axl to go back into the case of the missing Slash. Robert Durst is like Axl saying it was my fault. Then the Bud commercial is like old school imagery. He asks Indinesnian prez to forgive the drug mules. Axl learns to forgive Slash. The Money Pacman fight Axl wants a rematch for the fans. Finally he gets it and calls Duff to broker the deal of the century. 

 

 

I do wonder if the case of the missing Slash has been going on for more time than I first thought i.e. Nov/Dec 2015?? Maybe more like end of GN'R Vegas Residency. I think Tommy mentioned recently that they did not know what was after vegas? Not sure what prompted Axl into reunion, after he said he was having a ball on Jimmy Kimmel, but that was a while ago. Duff's presence on GN'R tour was surely the motivation. Have you seen the pic in the plane with Duff & Axl chat? Others are in awe of the relationship. What I am getting at, is that Axl did not just say fuck it, I'll forgive Slash. It must have been a longer term reconcillation than the last few months.

[Strange Broue]

3 hours ago, NOVEMBER COMA said:

Cool snippet, I wonder what his preferences would be to play live? & he listened to it before release? WTF?

Yup

Record company or a friend probably bring it to him

 

Wanna hear  a more surreal fact? at one point (after the break up between them)  Axl WANTED Slash to play some solos on 2-3 CD tracks...

 

4tus said in a  2015 interview that they have been working on some ideas that roots back to the Slash years---- (aka mid 90's...)

Edited March 15, 2016 by Strange Broue

[NOVEMBER COMA]

18 minutes ago, Strange Broue said:

Yup

Record company or a friend probably bring it to him

 

Wanna hear  a more surreal fact? at one point (after the break up between them)  Axl WANTED Slash to play some solos on 2-3 CD tracks...

 

4tus said in a  2015 interview that they have been working on some ideas that roots back to the Slash years---- (aka mid 90's...)

Get the fuck out, they hadn't spoken since 1996. Axl asked through intermediaries?

[wasted]

42 minutes ago, NOVEMBER COMA said:

I do wonder if the case of the missing Slash has been going on for more time than I first thought i.e. Nov/Dec 2015?? Maybe more like end of GN'R Vegas Residency. I think Tommy mentioned recently that they did not know what was after vegas? Not sure what prompted Axl into reunion, after he said he was having a ball on Jimmy Kimmel, but that was a while ago. Duff's presence on GN'R tour was surely the motivation. Have you seen the pic in the plane with Duff & Axl chat? Others are in awe of the relationship. What I am getting at, is that Axl did not just say fuck it, I'll forgive Slash. It must have been a longer term reconcillation than the last few months.

Duff said they talked reunion and explained to Axl that he misunderstood Slash. 

We can go back to the residency where Axl told the promoter we thought it went so well he was thinking of putting the old guys back together for next year. Not sure if this is the first real clue. 

Then there's Axl talking about who's capable of touring (Slash and Duff) saying problems with Adler/Izzy. 

Also the camaradreie of Slash pissing his pants and Axl taking care of the girl. This was a sign. 

Maybe to Axl this was always the plan. He wanted to do CD just like others wanted to do solo. But he also saw a time when he would want to do a self titled record. 

If all else fails there's always the AFD line up record. There's 3 records potentially. CD II, Hybrid self titled, AFD II record. 

It's happy hour I'm being slightly oppotimistic and wrong again. 

And the days go by

into the blue again once in a lifetime

[wasted]

46 minutes ago, Wagszilla said:

This is all speculation by a dubious / unverified source but it's not like there's anything else to talk about with this band right now. It's all waiting for Vegas.

That said, Axl's not abandoning CD. That much is obvious.

How dare you!

[wasted]

32 minutes ago, NOVEMBER COMA said:

Get the fuck out, they hadn't spoken since 1996. Axl asked through intermediaries?

Axl doesn't need to ask? He owns the tapes of sessions? So anything done in the studio /sessions from 96 on was is GNR and fair game? 

[NOVEMBER COMA]

10 minutes ago, wasted said:

Axl doesn't need to ask? He owns the tapes of sessions? So anything done in the studio /sessions from 96 on was is GNR and fair game? 

Agree, but aren't we saying here that Axl wanted Slash to record on CD after he said "i'm done" (Slash's words) in '96?  i.e not ask for permission, ask because he wanted him to?

Edited March 15, 2016 by NOVEMBER COMA

[Mr. Dude]

3 hours ago, wasted said:

I'm onboard.

Re-recorded AFD and CD released as 2-CD set for the tour with 2 new tracks. 

I'd be cool with them opening with the Appetite lineup and close the show with an extended encore of the Chinese era players- a GNR all star jamboree.

[Mr. Dude]

5 hours ago, wasted said:

Dj is more from the dudes of bro Crue hair metal camp isn't he? Given his age he could be a GNR fan who plays guitar. 

You can see why Axl overlooked image to get the best guitar on CD. But Bucket isn't really a road warrior or blue collar icon. Ron and Dj probably did bring GNR back to "normality" image wise. Bucket and Finck did kind of look 90s. 

The some of the material that came out with CD's release did seem a little more crazy Axl than righteous Axl.

Shackler's 

If the World

Scraped

Sorry

it's like his way back to having fun again. 

Then you know Mad Men, Don Draper inspires Vegas Residencies and True Detective inspires Axl to go back into the case of the missing Slash. Robert Durst is Jlike Axl saying it was my fault. Then the Bud commercial is like old school imagery. He asks Indinesnian prez to forgive the drug mules. Axl learns to forgive Slash. The Money Pacman fight Axl wants a rematch for the fans. Finally he gets it and calls Duff to broker the deal of the century. 

 

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Agreed. DJ really helped bridge the gap between the two eras. In a way you can say he's the one that made it possible for Slash to come back.

[wasted]

4 hours ago, NOVEMBER COMA said:

Agree, but aren't we saying here that Axl wanted Slash to record on CD after he said "i'm done" (Slash's words) in '96?  i.e not ask for permission, ask because he wanted him to?

Ask him to play but doesn't need permission to use his riff idea? Same could apply to Freese who wrote riff to Chi dem then left or Tobias. Axl can't force them to come back and play but they can't stop him using their ideas. 

[wasted]

1 hour ago, Mr. Dude said:

Agreed. DJ really helped bridge the gap between the two eras. In a way you can say he's the one that made it possible for Slash to come back.

I think if CD had completely stalled on the launch pad then maybe Axl would have quit music or been so pissed to not ever deal again. But Dj and Ron clawed Axl back to some sort of respectibility even success in this era. 

Azzof was trying to set up a reunion right after CD release but Axl might felt bullied into it, not really cool. But this way Axl took CD to it's natural comclusion then he decided to work with old Guns on his terms. 

[Apollo]

I know people are just t-rolling and trying to be funny. But rereleasing Appetite and CD with two new songs is clearly the dumbest thing posted on here in 2016. 

Gnr has released one album of original material in the last 25 years. Axl said he had two completed albums in the can. Slash/Duff can write a new album from scratch in a month. 

There is no reason in the world for GnR to not release an album with all new material. The top 8 remaining CD2 songs and 4-5 songs written by the regrouped lineup. Release it to kick off a world tour starting in July of this year. 

Rereleases or greatest hits with just two new songs - just stupid and lazy and an insult to fans. 

[dalsh327]

In 1995, there was a flat out refusal to work on each others music because they couldn't deal with each other, and it turned into a stalemate. 

A new greatest hits.... I don't see why not, but it'll be what the band wants out there. Maybe we get a new Welcome to the Videos on Blu Ray and in 5.1 with the documentaries, because that was just a lazy VHS transfer. They could probably do commentary on it and goof on themselves. It's So Easy gets added and maybe even new videos just for the DVD. It could be a mix of screen films and live footage. 

The back catalog is probably going to be remastered for 24 bit. People can say it doesn't need it, but we're not Universal who wants the back catalog to keep bringing money in, and Axl might not like the quality of the downloads that are out there on Amazon and iTunes. 

Alternate versions,demos, live shows in the archives, rare footage - that's what people want to know as much as whether or not there's a new studio album. Welcome to the Videos and the official live UYI on DVD weren't band approved. 

They have a lot of loose ends to tie up, so hopefully the next decade will see most of it coming our way. 

[SoundOfAGun]

If the record label think that anyone wants an extra 8 bits of resolution involved in a remaster process that is not necessary in the first place, they have missed the mark by quite a margin.