cheesecake Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 19 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: Couldnt that also be perceived as a grand gesture as @Lumikki described he does too? Thanks for pointing that out. I have to admit I did not read every post on these last few pages so I went back and read Lumikki's and some others. Yup, I guess I agree with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frey Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 16 hours ago, Andy14 said: That's what I understood as well, but I'm not a native speaker . And it definitelly is Axl. You're a chairman and don't recognize him? Shame on you Yeah yeah, shame on me, I know. I'm aware Axl doesn't always speak with that deep voice, but it still doesnt really sound like him to me. But if you all say so, then who am I to argue 7 hours ago, SerenityScorp said: Really? 4 hours ago, Tori72 said: About the relationship between Axl and Slash? There wasn't one? I doubt that, because in the beginning, there defenetly was one. They crashed together at the same place, Axl lived with him for a while. And we can tell from the interaction (Slaxl) onstage. Later, also while preparing UYI, they both admitted they saw each other less and only talked on the phone. But so was the rest of the band. He was talking about Axl and Slash's relationship during the UYI days. Which I would agree didn't really exist. Even Slash said that he did everything to avoid being around Axl during these days and Doug Goldstein and the likes did everything to keep Axl from Slash. Obviously Slash and Axl had a weirdly close and intense relationship before that (as has been established in this thread numerous times). Where are all these posts with all these quotes about them loving each other and sleeping in the same bed when you need them lol. Got some more stuff to comment on later, but work is calling... 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
money honey Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Apologies for carrying over the angst from the rumoured concert dates thread but ... Anyone who's concerned about Europe dates next year, take heart from Axl in 88/89 - "I hope we can do it right for Europe" - let's hope he still feels the same way!! (BTW how sweet is Axl here - relaxed and in a good mood ) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 @money honey Check the rumoured concert thread @Rickodez just kindly posted proof they're coming to Europe this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 1 hour ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: @money honey Check the rumoured concert thread @Rickodez just kindly posted proof they're coming to Europe this year. There is no doubt they will come to Europe. The question is when? And why they seem to be giving priority to U.S. and Canada when they have already perfomed in Toronto and many U.S. cities? Even the up coming shows in Mexico are a head scratcher for me. They just performed in Mexico last April. I think Mexico could wait another year or two. They should've added another show in Brazil, Argentina or Chile. And finish the tour in Costa Rica. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilacmess Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 17 hours ago, Blackstar said: I'm probably far off, but this excerpt actually reminds me of the first verse of 'Better': No one ever told me when I was alone They just thought I'd know better, better 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketqueen76 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 25 minutes ago, Padme said: There is no doubt they will come to Europe. The question is when? And why they seem to be giving priority to U.S. and Canada when they have already perfomed in Toronto and many U.S. cities? Even the up coming shows in Mexico are a head scratcher for me. They just performed in Mexico last April. I think Mexico could wait another year or two. They should've added another show in Brazil, Argentina or Chile. And finish the tour in Costa Rica. If you think about it, they kind of did the same thing during UYI. They were on tour for so long that they went to some places twice while never going to some. During that time they also spent a good amount of time in South America....Argentina, Chile and the like so the Mexico dates don't surprise me. On the other hand, they will be close to finishing up the tour in February while in Australia (which I am really hoping to get tickets to) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 31 minutes ago, Rocketqueen76 said: If you think about it, they kind of did the same thing during UYI. They were on tour for so long that they went to some places twice while never going to some. During that time they also spent a good amount of time in South America....Argentina, Chile and the like so the Mexico dates don't surprise me. On the other hand, they will be close to finishing up the tour in February while in Australia (which I am really hoping to get tickets to) During the UYI they tour Europe a lot more, late 91 and early/mid 93. They finished in Argentina but they came from Europe directly to end the tour there. They are not ending the tour in Mexico since there are more shows next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Padme said: There is no doubt they will come to Europe. The question is when? And why they seem to be giving priority to U.S. and Canada when they have already perfomed in Toronto and many U.S. cities? Even the up coming shows in Mexico are a head scratcher for me. They just performed in Mexico last April. I think Mexico could wait another year or two. They should've added another show in Brazil, Argentina or Chile. And finish the tour in Costa Rica. I know, it's very frustrating as a European fan because I wonder if they're only going to play in major cities now and not a full scale leg of the tour. I wonder, with the time frame they will have, if they're planning on doing similar places as ACDC did on their last European leg, about 12 shows I think, and that's it. It would be interesting to know who is booking the dates, because they definitely do not make sense. Canada deserves more shows, though. Edited November 28, 2016 by MillionsOfSpiders 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) 21 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: I know, it's very frustrating as a European fan because I wonder if they're only going to play in major cities now and not a full scale leg of the tour. I wonder, with the time frame they will have, if they're planning on doing similar places as ACDC did on their last European leg, about 12 shows I think, and that's it. It would be interesting to know who is booking the dates, because they definitely do not make sense. Canada deserves more shows, though. Sure the U.S. and Canada deserve more shows, but after Europe and at the moment it doesn't seem to be the case. I'm adding some corrections and info. They played Europe in 91 (few shows but better than nothing) a lot of shows in 92 and some in 93. That's 3 legs mixing with North America and the Australasia. South America was just one leg and the last 2 shows in Argentina https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_Your_Illusion_Tour Edited November 28, 2016 by Padme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy14 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 12 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: I know, it's very frustrating as a European fan because I wonder if they're only going to play in major cities now and not a full scale leg of the tour. I wonder, with the time frame they will have, if they're planning on doing similar places as ACDC did on their last European leg, about 12 shows I think, and that's it. It would be interesting to know who is booking the dates, because they definitely do not make sense. Canada deserves more shows, though. I wouldn't mind if they did EXACTLY the same places as Axl did with ACDC But I really hope they will spend quite some time in Europe, I'd be really pissed off if they left out majority of it. They just can't cut Europe considering all those places they're touring (Asia, Oceania, USA again , etc.) Axl thinking of European fans: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerenityScorp Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 1 minute ago, Andy14 said: I wouldn't mind if they did EXACTLY the same places as Axl did with ACDC But I really hope they will spend quite some time in Europe, I'd be really pissed off if they left out majority of it. They just can't cut Europe considering all those places they're touring (Asia, Oceania, USA again , etc.) Axl thinking of European fans: Axl thinking of Indonesian Fans 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 28 minutes ago, Padme said: Sure the U.S. and Canada deserve more shows, but after Europe and at the moment it doesn't seem to be the case. I'm adding some corrections and info. They played Europe in 91 (few shows but better than nothing) a lot of shows in 92 and some in 93. That's 3 legs mixing with North America and the Australasia. South America was just one leg and the last 2 shows in Argentina https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_Your_Illusion_Tour To be fair, I think they would've played Europe by now had Axl not gone to sing for AC/DC. That's an extra 22 shows to factor in, plus rest time he would need. I do totally see where you are coming from though. I just think the whole AC/DC thing had a ripple effect on GnR plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketqueen76 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 2 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: To be fair, I think they would've played Europe by now had Axl not gone to sing for AC/DC. That's an extra 22 shows to factor in, plus rest time he would need. I do totally see where you are coming from though. I just think the whole AC/DC thing had a ripple effect on GnR plans. I totally agree. The very limited amount of rest time back then was a huge factor in the amount of vocal troubles Axl was having back then...not to mention the rest of the band spiraling down into their addictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiraMPD Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 5 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: To be fair, I think they would've played Europe by now had Axl not gone to sing for AC/DC. That's an extra 22 shows to factor in, plus rest time he would need. I do totally see where you are coming from though. I just think the whole AC/DC thing had a ripple effect on GnR plans. I really want a them to tour Europe soon but if that was pushed back due to Axl/DC then I have no complaints there. I went to the Manchester show and it was fuckin badass! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerenityScorp Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 N' I really want Them to come to Jakarta, Indonesia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 4 minutes ago, KiraMPD said: I really want a them to tour Europe soon but if that was pushed back due to Axl/DC then I have no complaints there. I went to the Manchester show and it was fuckin badass! I went to that show too, it was unreal! I do think adding the AC/DC shows to the schedule meant GnR couldn't tour Europe that summer. At least it's 22 shows GnR could've done somewhere themselves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocketqueen76 Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 32 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: To be fair, I think they would've played Europe by now had Axl not gone to sing for AC/DC. That's an extra 22 shows to factor in, plus rest time he would need. I do totally see where you are coming from though. I just think the whole AC/DC thing had a ripple effect on GnR plans. I totally agree. The very limited amount of rest time back then was a huge factor in the amount of vocal troubles Axl was having back then...not to mention the rest of the band spiraling down into their addictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 31 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: To be fair, I think they would've played Europe by now had Axl not gone to sing for AC/DC. That's an extra 22 shows to factor in, plus rest time he would need. I do totally see where you are coming from though. I just think the whole AC/DC thing had a ripple effect on GnR plans. Keep in mind AXL/DC also tour the U.S. right after the GN'R tour. So I don't think the AXL/DC is a good reason. In fact is adding more fuel to the fire if GN'R comes back to do another the U.S. tour in April while pushing Europe further ahead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 31 minutes ago, Padme said: Keep in mind AXL/DC also tour the U.S. right after the GN'R tour. So I don't think the AXL/DC is a good reason. In fact is adding more fuel to the fire if GN'R comes back to do another the U.S. tour in April while pushing Europe further ahead Well, somewhere a leg of the tour got chopped to fit in AC/DC. I was trying to find a logical reason for it all, rather than they just like America better than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerenityScorp Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 9 minutes ago, Archtop said: a story Duff tells about Izzy jumped on his bike and rode upto seattle for his birthday which is a six hour journey. Just want to share Duzzy story Why dont He do tht to Axl???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 Just now, SerenityScorp said: Just want to share Duzzy story Why dont He do tht to Axl???? Because he went to Axls and Axl admitted he saw him on the security camera and didn't answer the door! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerenityScorp Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 (edited) 2 minutes ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: Because he went to Axls and Axl admitted he saw him on the security camera and didn't answer the door! It was long time ago right? Not recently. Tht Duzzy story I think it was when They make Duff's EP Edited November 28, 2016 by SerenityScorp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillionsOfSpiders Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 17 minutes ago, SerenityScorp said: It was long time ago right? Not recently. Tht Duzzy story I think it was when They make Duff's EP Well why don't none of the guys do that for Izzy? Does Axl get in the car and go to Izzy's? Does Slash? I said it in your other thread, I think Izzy reaches out to the others much more than they do to him. They're always leaving poor Izzy out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SerenityScorp Posted November 28, 2016 Share Posted November 28, 2016 1 minute ago, MillionsOfSpiders said: Well why don't none of the guys do that for Izzy? Does Axl get in the car and go to Izzy's? Does Slash? I said it in your other thread, I think Izzy reaches out to the others much more than they do to him. They're always leaving poor Izzy out Because They didnt know where's Izzy even though They want to meet Him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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