HOOSIER GUNZ Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) I don't know if there is a secret they're hiding? But apparently 60% of us would not know it anyway right? Edited January 29, 2018 by HOOSIER GUNZ . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Order of Nine Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 On 1/26/2018 at 6:14 AM, Dazey said: This rates a solid 10 out of 10 on the Couldn'tgiveashitometer. And now back to your regularly scheduled programming. 4 hours ago, SoulMonster said: Unless they demonstrate that the government is behind it, then yes, it is entirely irrelevant to your claim. You must understand that companies always try to "coax" people into buying their products, it is not indicative of some governmental conspiracy, it is marketing. So. Who controls the public educational system here in AmeriKa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Order of Nine Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, HOOSIER GUNZ said: I don't know if there is a secret they're hiding? But apparently 60% of us would not know it anyway right? Right. Yes sir. And we have almost 600 pages in the US politics/electronic voter fraud thread that clearly outlines that the root of the problem hasn't been addressed, corporations lobbying politicans and the MSM propaganda tool to manipulate public perception. Edited January 29, 2018 by Order of Nine The truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Order of Nine Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, SoulMonster said: What has that got to do with the claim that the government has some secret agenda to make us all wear RFIDs? How about some laws that we're written to help the people that are disabled.. As disturbing as it sounds, our own Congress has passed a bill to start putting RFID chips in humans. The U.S. House of Representatives has passed a bill that would get the federal government heavily involved in microchipping disabled people for tracking purposes. If you would like to read it for yourself, you can find H.R. 4919 online (while we still have the internet to learn). The bill is also known as Kevin and Avonte’s Law, and the idea behind it is that if disabled people are microchipped it won’t be so easy for them to get lost. Edited January 29, 2018 by Order of Nine The truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Order of Nine said: And now back to your regularly scheduled programming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOSIER GUNZ Posted January 29, 2018 Share Posted January 29, 2018 I overheard a comment the other day, something to the affect, if there is a president like say Roosevelt who had polio, "they" will cure that shit...like they can do that. They did it. There is a cure for that true?. A vaccine we get. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 7 hours ago, Order of Nine said: So. Who controls the public educational system here in AmeriKa? What has the educational system in USA with companies selling RFIDs as human wearables? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 7 hours ago, Order of Nine said: How about some laws that we're written to help the people that are disabled.. As disturbing as it sounds, our own Congress has passed a bill to start putting RFID chips in humans. The U.S. House of Representatives has passed a bill that would get the federal government heavily involved in microchipping disabled people for tracking purposes. If you would like to read it for yourself, you can find H.R. 4919 online (while we still have the internet to learn). The bill is also known as Kevin and Avonte’s Law, and the idea behind it is that if disabled people are microchipped it won’t be so easy for them to get lost. I don't think that is true: https://www.snopes.com/government-to-microchip-citizens/ If you disagree, then please simply quote the parts of the law that proves you are right. Regardless, this is still not demonstrating that the government has some secret plan to make us all wear RFIDs- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOSIER GUNZ Posted January 30, 2018 Share Posted January 30, 2018 Get your brand new rfid at cvs today. It comes with an app. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Order of Nine Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 20 hours ago, SoulMonster said: I don't think that is true: https://www.snopes.com/government-to-microchip-citizens/ If you disagree, then please simply quote the parts of the law that proves you are right. Regardless, this is still not demonstrating that the government has some secret plan to make us all wear RFIDs- Your sourcing me info from snopes a known disinformation site just like metabunk... And here is some more information. It's called dangle the carrot. http://www.unseen-pedia.com/citizens-want-receive-gvt-benefits-must-agree-microchipped-near-future/ https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4919 Edited January 31, 2018 by Order of Nine The truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 3 hours ago, Order of Nine said: Your sourcing me info from snopes a known disinformation site just like metabunk... And here is some more information. It's called dangle the carrot. http://www.unseen-pedia.com/citizens-want-receive-gvt-benefits-must-agree-microchipped-near-future/ https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/house-bill/4919 So you are unable to quote me sections of the law that supports your claim that it allows the government to implant RFIDs in people? Let me help you out, under "Title III - Privacy Protections", Section 301 and 302, it is explicitly stated that ONLY non-invasive and non-permanent tracking devices are accepted. Here is Section 301: Quote NON-INVASIVE AND NON-PERMANENT.—The term “non-invasive and non-permanent” means, with regard to any technology or device, that the procedure to install the technology or device does not create an external or internal marker or implant a device or other trackable items. In other words, snopes.com is correct, the law DOES NOT allow the implantation of RFIDs, and you are wrong. So again, what evidence do you have for your ludicrous claim that the government has some secret agenda to make all citizens wear RFIDs? Pointing to the fact that companies sell such microchips is not evidence. Pointing to the fact that some people want to have implanted RFIDs, is also not evidence. Nor is that fact that a law was passed that would allow the use of non-invasive tracking devices for demented people. So what do you have that allows you the following conclusion: RFIDs exist -> The government must have a secret plan to make us all wear them! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Order of Nine Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) Moving along This is a short list of covert government funded projects that have existed, a brief explanation of each follows. Operation paperclip - in 1945 the American government recruits over 900 Nazi scientist's to work on "weaponry rockets". Now "eye" see clearly.. https://goo.gl/images/MHGDqq Operation mockingbird - Media manipulation, recognised keystone among researchers pointing to the Agency’s clear interest in and relationship to major US news media. MOCKINGBIRD grew out of the CIA’s forerunner, the Office for Strategic Services (OSS, 1942-47), which during World War Two had established a network of journalists and psychological warfare experts operating primarily in the European theatre Rex 84 - short for Readiness Exercise 1984. Through Rex-84 an undisclosed number of concentration camps were set in operation throughout the United States, for internment of dissidents and others potentially harmful to the state. Tuskegee syphilis experiment - The Tuskegee syphilis experiment, which began in 1932, is seen as one of the darkest moments in medical history, and one of the most evil US government experiments on humans. In the Tuskegee syphilis study, doctors at Tuskegee University were trying to find out more about syphilis. But things went off the rails quickly - researchers lost their funding, they lied to their test subjects (impoverished African American men), and didn't treat them for syphilis even after they knew penicillin could cure the infection. Operation Northwoods - Under a secret 1962 US Joint Chiefs of Staff entitled Operation Northwoods, civilians in the Cuban community in Miami were to be killed as part of a covert operation. The objective was to trigger a “helpful wave of indignation in US newspapers”. The killings and “acts of terrorism” were then to be blamed on the Cuban government of Fidel Castro. Manhattan project - The Manhattan Project: Making the Atomic Bomb" is a short history of the origins and development of the American atomic bomb program during World War II. Beginning with the scientific developments of the pre-war years, the monograph details the role of United States government in conducting a secret, nationwide enterprise that took science from the laboratory and into combat with an entirely new type of weapon. MK ultra - Covert government funded program carried out by the CIA to research mind control with various man made chemicals, and biological agents. Skull and Bones - https://goo.gl/images/iDPzbk Book and snake - Founded in 1863, this secret society is notable for one reason: it was the first to include female students. Similar to other Yale secret societies, Book and Snake houses its activities in a building that also serves as its main meeting hall. This hall is windowless, to preserve secrecy, and only past and present members are allowed inside. Members have included Watergate reporter Bob Woodward and Porter Goss, former director of the CIA. Cointelpro - COINTELPRO (an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program) was a series of covert, and often illegal, projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at spying on, infiltrating, discrediting, disrupting and destroying domestic organizations considered "subversive". According to the FBI Operation Gladio - Operation Gladio is undisputed historical fact. Gladio was part of a post-World War II program set up by the CIA and NATO supposedly to thwart future Soviet/communist invasions or influence in Italy and Western Europe. In fact, it became a state-sponsored right-wing terrorist network, involved in false flag operations and the subversion of democracy. The existence of Gladio was confirmed and admitted by the Italian government in 1990, after a judge, Felice Casson, discovered the network in the course of his investigations into right-wing terrorism. Italian prime minister Giulio Andreotti admitted Gladio’s existence but tried to minimize its significance. Operation midnight climax - On April 13, 1953, CIA director Allen Dulles authorized Project MKULTRA, the controversial series of experiments aimed at developing mind control techniques and discovering a “truth drug.” Agents dosed subjects with LSD and other psychotropic narcotics, hypnotized them, and exposed them to radiation and electroshock therapy. Some of the participants volunteered, but others did so unwillingly and unwittingly. The CIA attempted to destroy all records of the program, leaving behind only seven boxes of official files overlooked during the document purge. But a few stories survived. One of the strangest revolves around a series of uncontrolled experiments named Operation Midnight Climax. CIA operatives involved with Midnight Climax hired prostitutes in San Francisco to lure clients back to brothels. Once there, the agents secretly drugged their targets and watched them engage in sexual activities from behind a two-way mirror. Operation LAC - During the 1950s and '60s, the U.S. Army dusted chosen American cities from coast to coast with a fine powder of a fluorescent, potentially toxic chemical. And now one scientist says, at least in the case of St. Louis, that powder may have contained radioactive material. The powder scattering was part of Operation Large Area Coverage (LAC), a series of tests the Army says were designed to assess the threat of biological attacks by simulating the airborne dispersion of germs. The experiments exposed large swathes of the United States, and parts of Mexico and Canada, to flurries of a synthesized chemical called zinc cadmium sulfide. New research from sociologist Lisa Martino-Taylor in St. Louis, one of the cities singled out for heavy-duty testing during LAC, suggests the Army may have mixed radioactive particles with the zinc cadmium sulfide it spread throughout a poor, mostly black neighborhood there. Agenda 21 - This document describes nothing less than a global government takeover of every nation across the planet. The "goals" of this document are nothing more than code words for a corporate-government fascist agenda that will imprison humanity in a devastating cycle of poverty while enriching the world's most powerful globalist corporations like Monsanto and DuPont. Edited January 31, 2018 by Order of Nine The truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Order of Nine Posted January 31, 2018 Author Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) Soul Monster. This will be a tough pill to swallow, for you. Edited January 31, 2018 by Order of Nine The truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Order of Nine said: Soul Monster. This will be a tough pill to swallow, for you. How so? Are you going to claim the pill is in reality a tracking device for the government? This is a pill that sends out a signal if it is in contact with the acidic environment of the stomach. The signal can then be picked up by a wearable patch on the patient. Basically telling him/her that the medication was taken -- really neat for people with dementia and other disorders where administration of drugs is complicated and easily forgotten. The signal can not be picked up by anyone else, nor would it tell anything besides the very fact that the patient has the pill in the stomach. The patient may then choose to transfer the information to professional caregiver/primary caretaker/doctor/etc, just like today when a patient decides to inform that he is actually taking the medication as prescribed. I can see there might be concerns over a system where data was automatically sent to other parties, but I really don't see how this is connected to your RFID nonsense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 2 hours ago, Order of Nine said: Moving along What? You are going to leave it at that? I have just pointed out that the law EXPLICITLY states that invasive and permanent methods for tracking demented patients is not allowed, the exact opposite of what you claimed, and you just "move along" without any comment? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 8 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: What? You are going to leave it at that? I have just pointed out that the law EXPLICITLY states that invasive and permanent methods for tracking demented patients is not allowed, the exact opposite of what you claimed, and you just "move along" without any comment? Yeah, that happens when you get caught out talking absolute bullshit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicrawker Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, SoulMonster said: How so? Are you going to claim the pill is in reality a tracking device for the government? This is a pill that sends out a signal if it is in contact with the acidic environment of the stomach. The signal can then be picked up by a wearable patch on the patient. Basically telling him/her that the medication was taken -- really neat for people with dementia and other disorders where administration of drugs is complicated and easily forgotten. The signal can not be picked up by anyone else, nor would it tell anything besides the very fact that the patient has the pill in the stomach. The patient may then choose to transfer the information to professional caregiver/primary caretaker/doctor/etc, just like today when a patient decides to inform that he is actually taking the medication as prescribed. I can see there might be concerns over a system where data was automatically sent to other parties, but I really don't see how this is connected to your RFID nonsense. Soul you are never going to get a straight answer from him as his claims are all exactly what this thread is about, conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theory advocates take general news items and twist them to fit whatever their agenda is and then quote other conspiracy theorists to support their claims. OoN cannot provide you with what he does not have, which is concrete proof to back up his claims. Instead once you box him into a corner he will keep claiming he already provided you with the proof you are asking for but you are evidently not enlightened enough to decipher it. He will then move on to the next conspiracy theory to deflect from the fact he can't really support what you are asking him to prove......... Edited January 31, 2018 by classicrawker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted January 31, 2018 Share Posted January 31, 2018 54 minutes ago, classicrawker said: Soul you are never going to get a straight answer from him as his claims are all exactly what this thread is about, conspiracy theories. Conspiracy theory advocates take general news items and twist them to fit whatever their agenda is and then quote other conspiracy theorists to support their claims. OoN cannot provide you with what he does not have, which is concrete proof to back up his claims. Instead once you box him into a corner he will keep claiming he already provided you with the proof you are asking for but you are evidently not enlightened enough to decipher it. He will then move on to the next conspiracy theory to deflect from the fact he can't really support what you are asking him to prove......... Yes, that is how he operates. But I don't really care about the nature of him being wrong -- whether he believes in reptilians, gods or the government trying to make us wear RFIDs -- I am not out to prove him wrong, really, but to point out his systemic thinking errors. Conspiracy theories are a benign folly, but the underlying thinking mistakes that lead to them are a big threat to all who believe in rational thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOSIER GUNZ Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, SoulMonster said: Conspiracy theories are a benign folly, but the underlying thinking mistakes that lead to them are a big threat to all who believe in rational thinking. You don't believe in conspiracy theories. I want to know what was the purpose of the pyramids. Edited February 1, 2018 by HOOSIER GUNZ . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 hour ago, HOOSIER GUNZ said: I want to know what was the purpose of the pyramids. Have you tried googling or wikipedia? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOSIER GUNZ Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 (edited) The pyramid code (five episodes, 2009) was pretty good. Who built them and how, why? Places like baalbek raise skepticism as to the original purpose. The scale is so massive. Why? Edited February 1, 2018 by HOOSIER GUNZ . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicrawker Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 1 hour ago, HOOSIER GUNZ said: You don't believe in conspiracy theories. I want to know what was the purpose of the pyramids. No one knows for sure but the they are thought be burial tombs......... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOOSIER GUNZ Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 That's bullshit. No offense cc. They seem to have something to do with generating and harnessing energy...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 28 minutes ago, HOOSIER GUNZ said: The scale is so massive. Why? Because it is more impressive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted February 1, 2018 Share Posted February 1, 2018 39 minutes ago, HOOSIER GUNZ said: The pyramid code (five episodes, 2009) was pretty good. Who built them and how, why? Places like baalbek raise skepticism as to the original purpose. The scale is so massive. Why? Whips! Great big fuck off whips! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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