Dont Try Me Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 it's clearly NOT fake......just an awesome moodswing in the song, axl's vocals are all over it...... axl wouldn't just make a simple rock song (as how it started) and make a simple ending..... nope it's one of his favorites cause of the moodswings in the song.......different vocal styles, different guitar styles...it's all there....even a bit of metall.....roaaarNOT FAKEI will eat my hat if it's fake (will get a hat soon) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunchuck Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 In my opinion, the 4:56 veirson of this song is absolutely not fake, and the moodswing/change in the song has been greatly exaggarated. You'd think the way people were talking about it that it must have a reggae section with horns in the middle of the song or something! They've just thrown in a little industrial curb ball in the middle, it's totally what you'd expect from this lineup right now. Oh, and i think it's pretty cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixAreForKids Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 (edited) it's clearly NOT fake......just an awesome moodswing in the song, axl's vocals are all over it...... axl wouldn't just make a simple rock song (as how it started) and make a simple ending..... nope it's one of his favorites cause of the moodswings in the song.......different vocal styles, different guitar styles...it's all there....even a bit of metall.....roaaarNOT FAKEI will eat my hat if it's fake (will get a hat soon)I know it's Axl's voice, but that 1.20 min of the song sounds like a different song. There's debate everywhere about it. It's hard to find someone to verify the demo is real, and has not been tampered with. So I asked Wes (the one who claims to have leaked the demo's) if this is the song he has. He replied that he heard the 4.56 version, and that the BH shredding and Axl screams (in the middle) is fake. If this is true, then that part does come from a different song. Edited February 26, 2006 by UseU'rIllusions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Try Me Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 it's clearly NOT fake......just an awesome moodswing in the song, axl's vocals are all over it...... axl wouldn't just make a simple rock song (as how it started) and make a simple ending..... nope it's one of his favorites cause of the moodswings in the song.......different vocal styles, different guitar styles...it's all there....even a bit of metall.....roaaarNOT FAKEI will eat my hat if it's fake (will get a hat soon)I know it's Axl's voice, but that 1.20 min of the song sounds like a different song. There's debate everywhere about it. It's hard to find someone to verify the demo is real, and has not been tampered with. So I asked Wes (the one who claims to have leaked the demo's) if this is the song he has. He replied that he heard the 4.56 version, and that the BH shredding and Axl screams (in the middle) is fake. If this is true, then that part does come from a different song.remember the vocal lyrics fit from the beginning, the middle..and the end.......can't be part of another song......altho Wes may have said otherwise...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Focker Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 it's clearly NOT fake......just an awesome moodswing in the song, axl's vocals are all over it...... axl wouldn't just make a simple rock song (as how it started) and make a simple ending..... nope it's one of his favorites cause of the moodswings in the song.......different vocal styles, different guitar styles...it's all there....even a bit of metall.....roaaarNOT FAKEI will eat my hat if it's fake (will get a hat soon)I know it's Axl's voice, but that 1.20 min of the song sounds like a different song. There's debate everywhere about it. It's hard to find someone to verify the demo is real, and has not been tampered with. So I asked Wes (the one who claims to have leaked the demo's) if this is the song he has. He replied that he heard the 4.56 version, and that the BH shredding and Axl screams (in the middle) is fake. If this is true, then that part does come from a different song.remember the vocal lyrics fit from the beginning, the middle..and the end.......can't be part of another song......altho Wes may have said otherwise......Simple, either Wes is full of shit or the guy who says he asked Wes is full of shit. The heavier part of the song is just that... part of the song. And it's great. All these stupid fucks aren't even paying attention to the lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixAreForKids Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 it's clearly NOT fake......just an awesome moodswing in the song, axl's vocals are all over it...... axl wouldn't just make a simple rock song (as how it started) and make a simple ending..... nope it's one of his favorites cause of the moodswings in the song.......different vocal styles, different guitar styles...it's all there....even a bit of metall.....roaaarNOT FAKEI will eat my hat if it's fake (will get a hat soon)I know it's Axl's voice, but that 1.20 min of the song sounds like a different song. There's debate everywhere about it. It's hard to find someone to verify the demo is real, and has not been tampered with. So I asked Wes (the one who claims to have leaked the demo's) if this is the song he has. He replied that he heard the 4.56 version, and that the BH shredding and Axl screams (in the middle) is fake. If this is true, then that part does come from a different song.remember the vocal lyrics fit from the beginning, the middle..and the end.......can't be part of another song......altho Wes may have said otherwise......Simple, either Wes is full of shit or the guy who says he asked Wes is full of shit. The heavier part of the song is just that... part of the song. And it's great. All these stupid fucks aren't even paying attention to the lyrics.Hey fucker, keep your full of shit comments to yourself. I never said I didn't like the heavier part of the song, or didn't like the lyrics. However, the original leak was 1.06 in length and then a 2min one was leaked (just before the heavier part.) Why is that? Isn't it possible that someone messed with this song? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Yeah, it's very possible. But who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA_0013 Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 (edited) I love the scream before the Buckethead solo in particular (YEAH YOU, KNOW YOU BETTER!!!). God knows what they did to pump Axl before that roar but its so full of rage!! LA Edited February 26, 2006 by LA_0013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 Even IF there might be some parts added to Better that aren't supposed to be there, it still sounds like an awesome song regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgf Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 I dont think this leaked version of 'Better' is the final version of the album. But IRS i believe is the final version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussie_axl Posted February 26, 2006 Share Posted February 26, 2006 I dont think this leaked version of 'Better' is the final version of the album. But IRS i believe is the final version.i was hoping it's the other way around , i mean in my books I.R.S is ok, i find it abit slow tho, it could be more of rocker- harder song!, as for better, if axl could make it better.......well i can't wait to hear it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS_PoWeR Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 The stupidity on this board is at an all-time high. It's not 2 different songs ya fucking dumb fucks. Listen to the fucking lyrics. And if you can't understand them how the fuck do you consider yourself a G 'N R fan.Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA_0013 Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 The stupidity on this board is at an all-time high. It's not 2 different songs ya fucking dumb fucks. Listen to the fucking lyrics. And if you can't understand them how the fuck do you consider yourself a G 'N R fan.Agreed.Yep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cold_as_ice Posted February 27, 2006 Share Posted February 27, 2006 I dont think this leaked version of 'Better' is the final version of the album. But IRS i believe is the final version.i was hoping it's the other way around , i mean in my books I.R.S is ok, i find it abit slow tho, it could be more of rocker- harder song!, as for better, if axl could make it better.......well i can't wait to hear it.I think so too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 (edited) I love the 4.56 version of Better it fucking rocks but ive been reading the posts and these dumb fuckers have really got to me.someone please give some evidence that the middle bit isnt 2 songs?? pleasewhy the fuck would someone go to all the trouble to leak 2 songs togetherbytheway, the real bohemian rhapsody is yet to be released, the one we got now is 3 songs mixed into 1 by a fan Edited February 28, 2006 by jester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PS_PoWeR Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 It's real.Everything flows, especially the lyrics....which go "now i know you better" in the beginning ......"now you know me better" in the middle....and "now we all know better" at the end.....The people who are saying it's fake probably 1.) either english isn't their first language or they are having problems understanding the lyrics and/or 2.) they cannot handle the fact that this is not a traditional 80's style rock song. It doesn't go lyrics-chorus-lyrics-chorus-lyrics-chorus-fade, so they can't handle that and have to make up stuff about what happened. Nothing happened....this is a rock song with heavy industrial/electronica stylings. If this was a NIN leak than nobody would be saying its fake or incomplete. But because its GNR and people refuse to let go of the Appetite days, they arent used to it and have to tell stories.The song is real and it kicks ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneway23 Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 The track is obviously legit as is...The transitions are just rough because it is not a final mix, which hides these sorts of imperfections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 oh~~~ thank you PS PowerI BELIEVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 (edited) but why is it that the last few seconds of the track have bad quality? Edited February 28, 2006 by Robocop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnUlmer Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Judging by your post, I think you meant to say, "Someone convince me the song IS fake," not "isn't." That would imply you consider the current version to be false. And based on your Bohemian Rhapsody comment, I don't think that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadlaser Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 evidence to support that it's fake: 1. the parts (without 2:22 to 3:20 or whatever) synch up PERFECTLY.2. the lyrics don't fit the theme.3. better wasn't leaked in full until later (maybe it was being fucked with)4. the end of the bridge is unfinished (some say it's silkworms)5. we don't have an official version to compare it against.6. merck has neither confirmed or denied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jester Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 (edited) wasnt IRS leaked a bit at a time, maybe it was being fucked with too??? obviously notu think catcher in the rye is being rehashed by a fan????why not just fuck around with better than just leak the whole thing people in htgtht dont seem to be arguing over its genuine-ness as much, realling showing the intelligence of this board.god , i want to believe Edited February 28, 2006 by jester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadlaser Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 (edited) wasnt IRS leaked a bit at a time, maybe it was being fucked with too??? obviously notu think catcher in the rye is being rehased by a fan????why not just fuck around with better than just leak the whole thing people in htgtht dont seem to be arguing over its genuine-ness as much, realling showing the intelligence of this board.god , i want to believeyou started the thread genius, what'd you expect.and no, i.r.s. (the good version) wasn't leaked a bit at a time.you can't confirm shit until the album is out anyway, so give it a rest.and yes, there was a HUGE debate over at HTGTH, the thread was closed though because the link was postedcheck out this page and the next couple- http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=61802&st=1410 Edited February 28, 2006 by quadlaser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hanoi Rocks Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 (edited) My few friends and my girlfriend didnt like GnR as it used to sound, but when i let them hear "Better" they said "Sounds fucking amazing" and i guess they are not the only ones who think so! Edited February 28, 2006 by Hanoi Rocks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funeral Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 No doubt....that's what we need.....no mo mulletheads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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