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6 hours ago, Georgina Arriaga said:

Axl was crazy at that time, unhinged!

I miss him! Not the late shows and ego trips but jump to the crowd when he wasn't happy :lol:...Legendary...Come back Axl, show a little bit more of that craziness, it has to be there somewhere, take the boots of and jump on us :rofl-lol:

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3 hours ago, dgnr said:

I miss him! Not the late shows and ego trips but jump to the crowd when he wasn't happy :lol:...Legendary...Come back Axl, show a little bit more of that craziness, it has to be there somewhere, take the boots of and jump on us :rofl-lol:

Like... back then he was wearing micro shorts and some tee (and few less pounds), nothing more... I wouldn't like to get and impact from any oh his jewelry and other accessories...

And since he has Gio, no more lame ass security. 

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On 6/17/2019 at 3:49 PM, MaskingApathy said:

The breaking the band one?

So, anyone going to the GnR shows this fall? I'm considering going to the Vegas ones.

Ok, i was interested in Vegas too but $1000 for one GA ticket? No way.

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On 20.6.2019 at 3:42 AM, Georgina Arriaga said:

Tell me about this gem

He was soooo mad and angry....wow! Read the account

I know I said I miss the fiery little redhead. But seeing this, well, ... it only makes me laugh. This little pretty man being so upset, waving his lovely hair about. I don’t know. Can’t take it serious.... I think his whole macho attitude isn’t something that speaks to me. At least he was actually singing and performing in this video. I love young energetic Axl who really was rock n roll in every fibre of his being. I cannot connect to the anger and fierceness (is that a word) anymore. Maybe I’m old, maybe it’s saturday and I just woke up and can’t be bother and maybe this is what makes rock n roll so outdated in a way. The actual anger, no irony, no humour, just boiling blood and being upset about shit. I don’t know, it’s a little one sided, right? :shrugs:

 

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13 hours ago, MillionsOfSpiders said:

Shes a blast from the past. Reminds me of the part in slashs book where he dates that 80s porn star so she dated slash to get a leg up in the music biz.

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1 hour ago, RussTCB said:

I removed the posts about Little Michelle. That situation was discussed here:

http://www.mygnrforum.com/topic/222459-raz-cue-an-open-letter-to-duff-mckagan/

That thread is closed for now. If / when there are further developments, we will re-open that thread for discussion.

Oh. Ok then. I wasn’t referring to that thread that I haven’t read (only in the beginning of it). I was referring to a facebook post of hers from abaout a week or more ago. I didn’t see any harm in opening a discussion about her as it is band related.

I would have preferred to get a little more information as to why my post has been deleted and a discussion about her story has been forbidden. :shrugs:

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Just now, Tori72 said:

Oh. Ok then. I wasn’t referring to that thread that I haven’t read (only in the beginning of it). I was referring to a facebook post of hers from abaout a week or more ago. I didn’t see any harm in opening a discussion about her as it is band related.

I would have preferred to get a little more information as to why my post has been deleted and a discussion about her story has been forbidden. :shrugs:

Discussion about her story hasn't been "forbidden". The thread discussing her original issue was left open for quite some time and there was a lot of discussion. The thread is closed for now though because the discussion had run it's course for the time being and the person in question wasn't interested in talking about it any further at this time.

As for their fb post about another incident; it was mentioned in that thread and it was decided that that issue should stay on fb unless the person themselves wanted to discuss it here. 
 

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1 hour ago, MaskingApathy said:

I'm glad Meegan is back on tour with Slash so we can watch her IG live streams. Always enjoy those.

It's been so long since I last watched those things :sleeper:

I do regret though not having gone to see Slash in my country <_<

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20 minutes ago, killuridols said:

It's been so long since I last watched those things :sleeper:

I do regret though not having gone to see Slash in my country <_<

It's a good show. Arguably better than GnR imo.

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23 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

It's a good show. Arguably better than GnR imo.

It's always better to see an icon like Slash in a small venue, I think Im done with the stadiums, IDK lol

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23 minutes ago, killuridols said:

It's always better to see an icon like Slash in a small venue, I think Im done with the stadiums, IDK lol

Yeah the stadiums are kind of annoying unless you're right up front. Idk what GnR is going to do this run of shows but I'm not expecting anything different. Would've preferred more SMKC shows tbh.

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1 hour ago, MaskingApathy said:

Yeah the stadiums are kind of annoying unless you're right up front. Idk what GnR is going to do this run of shows but I'm not expecting anything different. Would've preferred more SMKC shows tbh.

well, I dont care because I don't think Im going to see them again :shrugs:

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On 2/19/2017 at 1:02 PM, Alja said:

@sanity_lostI like your incoherent mess. 

I have never said Steven is not honest. Actually you don`t meet many people who are as honest in what they express from their inside than brain damaged ones (or mentally disabled, my other favs). They understand things literally, you have to avoid irony or sarcasm when you talk to them. The trick is to do some extra research, because the way they process information can be too simplified. There is trap in their mind that when it starts working, as much difficult is to start it, the same difficult is put it to stop. They overthink (or more, repeat) things in their mind as much as they can change their true (like playing the same tape destroys content, or they stick on irrelevant details and blow them up. They also don`t deal with the fact sometimes information do not fit. Or make up things to fill gaps in their reasoning). They are not aware of it. With some it is thin ice always. Also it is thin ice when it interferes with the way they wish things would work. What I learned is never to lie to them and never sugarcoat anything. With all the problems with short-term memory, they remember when you mislead them (or feel mislead. That`s that thin ice). They are their own kind of volatile (or better emotional roller-coaster, love-hate, happy-hurt,...). I got sample of Steven`s book but never the whole one, mostly because I did not enjoy the language and it sounded whiny, I dug elsewhere. Internet is full. Steven whined often and loudly. 

As I said Steven is lucky to have happy-go-lucky personality since ever (many sources). He is likable to most people he meets, their light-headed little bro. He maintains it through damage he suffers. It is living in hard mode for everyone around. It is great and a big credit to people who support him. (It`s my biggest goal to help to find sense of living and ability to be happy to someone after crippling incident.) Other amazing child trait is ability to stand up and try again and again after fall without getting sour or giving up. 

I think managers make huge addition that communication between members in past was one huge failure and I hope reunited members are aware of it. 

Both Axl and Steven are described as 100% authentic people. The dynamics by me comes with huge intelligence gap between these two. You have super-smart visionary Axl who likes to talk his big (abstract) ideas (and I bet he has sense of humor based on abstraction, irony and sarcasm. Right now I imagine him with all that vivid expression and gestures). On the other hand you have simple, from day to day living Steven (this is also something usually accented with brain damage). Most people are somewhere between this. I strongly assume Steven never understood sarcasm or abstract jokes based on wordplay. Or complex problems with unclear solutions. As soon as you have some fun with others (and I enjoy sarcasm and wordplay and humor you don`t always get at first the most) the simple one feels bullied. If you discuss anything beyond his imagination, he starts to feel rejected (and bullied). With grounded guys like Slash or Duff it might be Axl to bring it on. You can bully them unconsciously too easy. Or directly, if you run nerves. Axl-Steven dynamics started to make sense to me after I had to interact with one co-worker in (luckily) limited time job (both completely sober). The best solution I am able in situation like this is to limit contact and hope that I don`t have to include that person in any bigger plans. The thing is that the less smart one will always pull the shorter end. It`s not nice, I know. I also know that for many Steven is likable because he is weaker from these two and still chimp-happy on drums and people tend to sympathize with weaker ones (You either don`t hurt that person because you just don`t want to, other reason to avoid interaction is not to get reputation lost with hurting someone defenseless to your weapons=not to be an asshole from whatever reason). Love-hate relation maybe comes also from intuitive sticking to someone with bold personality and vision and feeling of not being appreciated most of the time. Maybe also because of his bold personality Steven focused all hate from group rejection to Axl (repeatedly declared as group decision).

(to add some of my mess and make a little tidy-up in my thoughts. Although it`s most time about individual experience and feelings about people you feel your friends although you never met anyway.) 

Thank you. Textbook knowledge....I can understand. Thnx for the informative posts. No, WE DO not know him.  Opinion is from listening to his many .interviews. I am posting in an old thread. I have been just searching around.

I have posted in other threads about Steven when some fans here go in hard on criticizing this guy.  It is obviously from his many interviews, cognitively he has issues from his stroke, life with hard drugs, and other things.

Point though is he got it all right  clean and sober and should be given credit.

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On 2/19/2017 at 8:34 PM, killuridols said:

Why is it that a person who made a mistake in their lives, like getting into drugs or alcohol, immediately become liars and not credible but someone who's got cancer would never be doubted in their opinions, sayings and comments?

Having a stroke affects your moral? Your beliefs? Your personality?

Wow. Just wow.

This is how this world of prejudice makes people like Steven Adler become enraged and alienated. Because no matter how many days or years the guy gets cleaned. No matter how much he tries to regain a normal life and tries to get out of the deep black hole, there are comments like this from people like this who will never give a second chance to anyone.

Or until it happens to someone in their family or themselves.

Steven's personality and behavior is not any more questionable than Axl's or Slash or Izzy's. Even Duff was a major asshole back in the day. They all have their flaws and some of them have done worse things than taking drugs. However, Steven is the only one who "gets the corn". Why is that? Is it because it took him more time to get out of his addiction? Is it because he's just a drummer? Is it because he hasn't accomplished much with his career?

What about Axl? After Steven, Axl comes close to having a poor career, with only one album released with his version of GN'R. An album that didn't live up to the previous ones. He was stale for a long time, touring somewhat successfully for a decade, using the name of a band he started but he didn't make great by his own and solely talent.

How do we know Steven wouldn't be able to keep his shit together for an entire tour if we never gave him the chance? :shrugs:

His health problems are just the perfect excuse, for the band and for some fans, to say that Steven can't do it. In my opinion, after putting pieces of information together, Izzy and Steven will not return permanently to GNR because Axl Rose, who is the owner of GNR, doesn't want to them in the line up. They both left/got kicked out a long time ago and he moved on with his own version of GN'R until he couldn't do it anymore, due to financial reasons and the fact that his version of GN'R  eventually imploded.

I can't say if Steven is lying or not about what was the first arrangement he did with the band to play a lot more songs per show than what he ended up doing. To me it's hard to believe something like this was proposed or accepted by Axl, but it seems like he's unaware of a lot of things, so maybe someone made arrangements to have Steven convinced of playing more songs and then Axl found out and unmade the arrangements.

All in all, Steven sounded pretty calmed in this interview and coherent and I can't see none of the UTTER BULLSHIT I've had to read in this thread about him. Brain damaged my ass <_<

This guy is healthier than a lot of people here... Just because he has a problem in his speech that doesn't make him mentally handicapped or comparable to a 5 years old child. He's fitter than some fatasses in the band and he's got a lot of energy and positive vibes.

I am grateful for being lucky (something that avoids me like the pest) of having seen him playing with the other three originals at the River Plate shows in Buenos Aires. He was cheered up and welcomed by an audience who appreciated his guest appearance much more than anyone else.

Rock on Steven and have a great life! :headbang:

I agree with you as well. I have posted the guy is  clean and sober. After he left , 30 years ago, Duff and Slash and Axl were still not living like  The Osmond Bros.  Izzy about 1988, thanks to airport police, federal agents, local police in AZ, lol, got clean and sober QUICKLY. 

I STILL say Steven is cognitively  was effected. 

That is not playing armchair doctor. NO, I do not know him. His interviews just seem “ funny.”  He may have  the last laugh too. He is with band dong AFD and people show up.  The songs . The songs sound realllll authentic there too. . Smaller venues. He seems happy with his life. I won’t bring up their personal lives, but he sort of beat all of the others, except for Duff, in that area. Lol. His Instagram, he is not no where a hermit, lol,. He has other friends, a social life.  The guy has done a 100 degree turn in his life. Give him credit. 

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Why is this awesome thread dead? The only time Axl posts something beautiful on his Twitter and we're all quite about it :max:

 

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