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10 minutes ago, moreblack said:

Just call the cops. Depending on where you live they might even show up.

Don't think they would bother much around my area.

12 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said:

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2 hours ago, lukepowell1988 said:

My point is it ain't like Trump is acting on just 1 incident like people make out.

Trump's acting on decades of history with smaller incidents and tough talking from Iran - yet targeted attacks on Iranian territories is taking it too far. It is at times like these one must do everything to not escalate a volatile situation. 

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1 hour ago, lukepowell1988 said:

So it's already to attack places and kill people as long as it isn't too close to home??

 

So if someone assaults my next door neighbor I just do what not get involved?

But wait a minute. What about the crimes of Saudi Arabia and Israel? Why is Iran always first on the hit list and not them?

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Trump said he was ready to attack but after hearing that it would likely result in about 150 Iranians dying he called off the attacks, saying it wasn't in proportion to what Iran had (allegedly) done to them by shooting down the drone.

This must the only good thing I can remember Trump having done. Maybe it even was just a feint from him, all planned out as a threat? No, he's not that smart. Still, very happy he realized the planned attacks would be out of proportion.

*Applause* 

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39 minutes ago, Basic_GnR_Fan said:

But wait a minute. What about the crimes of Saudi Arabia and Israel? Why is Iran always first on the hit list and not them?

I agree with you there.

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Israel gets a free pass, because of the Bible. The Saudi's because they're a good source of income for the west and because the countries they commit warcrimes in tend to be countries the US wants bombed anyway.

Isn't that it?

I mean the right wing argument for arm sales is always, if we (the UK) don't sell them bombs to drop... someone else will 

Honestly think we should't be selling arms to anyone.

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38 minutes ago, AtariLegend said:

Israel gets a free pass, because of the Bible. The Saudi's because they're a good source of income for the west and because the countries they commit warcrimes in tend to be countries the US wants bombed anyway.

Isn't that it?

I mean the right wing argument for arm sales is always, if we (the UK) don't sell them bombs to drop... someone else will 

Honestly think we should't be selling arms to anyone.

I would say that Israel gets a free pass because there is a tremendously strong lobby on the US Government that comes down hard on any politician that goes against the Zionist agenda. Even Democrats are afraid of being against that agenda, even though the evangelicals mostly vote Republican. That's the lobby at work.

Regarding it just being arms sales regarding Saudi Arabia. We could also sell arms to Iran, why not do that? Again, this goes back to Iran being an enemy of Israel and Saudi Arabia being allied to Israel.

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Fox are saying Iran have said they where going to shoot down a plane carrying military on board.

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3 hours ago, lukepowell1988 said:

Fox are saying Iran have said they where going to shoot down a plane carrying military on board.

:lol:

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7 hours ago, SoulMonster said:

Trump said he was ready to attack but after hearing that it would likely result in about 150 Iranians dying he called off the attacks, saying it wasn't in proportion to what Iran had (allegedly) done to them by shooting down the drone.

This must the only good thing I can remember Trump having done. Maybe it even was just a feint from him, all planned out as a threat? No, he's not that smart. Still, very happy he realized the planned attacks would be out of proportion.

*Applause* 

Imagine if Iran flew a Drone 21 miles from our land. Americans we have freaked out and shot it down too. Thinking it could have been a bomb! To me it was to close to their territory.

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I think Iran had better watch out for Saudi Arabia. One of their Princes already said if Iran gets nuclear weapons, they will too and use them on Iran.

Honestly, with all the major weapons we have on our navy ships and the air craft, Iran should better watch out.

The deal with Obama was a joke. Paying a country not to make nuclear weapons. Like they would have done it anyway.

I'm so sick of some country always trying to start something.

There's so much horrible shit in this world and yet other shit pops up.

I thing if Iran keeps the shit up, the US should attack them and make an example. You know Israel would just love to be back up.

2 minutes ago, 31illusions said:

Imagine if Iran flew a Drone 21 miles from our land. Americans we have freaked out and shot it down too. Thinking it could have been a bomb! To me it was to close to their territory.

The US sends the drones to keep on eye on these countries. I'm sure other countries are doing it too.

It's the way of the world.

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You always have the worst foreign policy takes dontdamnmeuyi :lol: Anyway I mean its good that this didn't happen, but its scary to think it could have over a drone being shot down and that the decision rested on the shoulders of Donald Trump. If thats not cold water to the face, what the hell is? #Bernie2020

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8 hours ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said:

I think Iran had better watch out for Saudi Arabia. One of their Princes already said if Iran gets nuclear weapons, they will too and use them on Iran.

Honestly, with all the major weapons we have on our navy ships and the air craft, Iran should better watch out.

The deal with Obama was a joke. Paying a country not to make nuclear weapons. Like they would have done it anyway.

I'm so sick of some country always trying to start something.

There's so much horrible shit in this world and yet other shit pops up.

I thing if Iran keeps the shit up, the US should attack them and make an example. You know Israel would just love to be back up.

The US sends the drones to keep on eye on these countries. I'm sure other countries are doing it too.

It's the way of the world.

Do you feel like a hypocrite since your country has nuclear weapons and is the only country in the world that's used them on people(many thousands of civilians no less)?

If it did come to war and a boots on the ground invasion(not entirely out of the realm of possibility since your country is always starting shit) would you be enlisting? No. You're too scared. So maybe think before you speak and stop with the dramatics and being so ready to volunteer others for destruction on behalf of your painfully ignorant views.

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3 hours ago, Oldest Goat said:

Do you feel like a hypocrite since your country has nuclear weapons and is the only country in the world that's used them on people(many thousands of civilians no less)?

If it did come to war and a boots on the ground invasion(not entirely out of the realm of possibility since your country is always starting shit) would you be enlisting? No. You're too scared. So maybe think before you speak and stop with the dramatics and being so ready to volunteer others for destruction on behalf of your painfully ignorant views.

I think you can tell from their previous comments on politics that everything they believe comes from Fox News.

The idea that anyone could talk up the possibility of this war as a good thing and speak positively of the Saudi's is unbelievable.

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21 hours ago, Len Cnut said:

Y'know what I don't get about Trump?  You could forgive an under-informed younger generation for perhaps not knowing who this guy is or what he's about but for anyone who was concious during the 90s and 80s etc, Trump was just a known crook.  He had all the integrity and all the reputation of someone like Don King.  Even if you're some outright right wing fuckin' racist (and this is not to say that makes up the bulk or even a significant portion of his voters btw) there are better people to enact right wing policy than Donald Trump.  His getting voted in just kinda corroborated my lifelong cynicism about politics.  I honestly never thought it'd happen, I thought it was a joke, I'm not even sure Trump thought it would happen or had a decent idea of what he wanted to do with a presidency...but it did.  There are a number of reasons why it actually came to pass politically speaking, especially when you're presented with a bunch of shit options but, fuck me, Donald Trump, Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino, that fuckin' guy?!  The fuckin' real estate shark, the gold tower guy, Jesus, could you pick anyone more vulgar?

That election was fixed to make sure Hillary won, just like they did with that moron Romney to assure Obama's re-election. It didn't work out and now the whole world is in deep shit.

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1 hour ago, AtariLegend said:

I think you can tell from their previous comments on politics that everything they believe comes from Fox News.

The idea that anyone could talk up the possibility of this war as a good thing and speak positively of the Saudi's is unbelievable.

I don't blame anyone for not knowing everything, as no one does. But I do blame anyone for believing anything. For willful ignorance. Stubbornness.

If I don't know something or I'm informed or proven wrong I admit it for the sake of what's right and respect for others as well as myself. I certainly don't go "All in. I'd like to advocate war and the deaths of innocents out of my pathetic fear and a desperation for a false sense of security."

@dontdamnmeuyi2015 listen a lot to Noam Chomsky he's a very knowledgeable good guy. A real straight shooter. You may become more informed. Stop watching Fox or whatever, it's all just negativity and bullshit brainwashing you.

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On 6/22/2019 at 8:17 AM, Oldest Goat said:

 

@dontdamnmeuyi2015 listen a lot to Noam Chomsky he's a very knowledgeable good guy. A real straight shooter. You may become more informed. Stop watching Fox or whatever, it's all just negativity and bullshit brainwashing you.

Fox is terrible, except for Tucker Carlson. Best foreign policy takes on TV. Fox is basically all boomer zionist conservatism except for him :lol:

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Posted (edited)

Always loved Spitting Image.

This was over 20 years ago. Why have we not learned more since then?

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On 23/06/2019 at 6:46 PM, Basic_GnR_Fan said:

Fox is terrible, except for Tucker Carlson. Best foreign policy takes on TV. Fox is basically all boomer zionist conservatism except for him :lol:

Tucker Carlson may have prevented war against Iran.

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He heard from his generals and his diplomats. Lawmakers weighed in and so did his advisers. But among the voices that rang powerfully for President Trump was that of one of his favorite Fox News hosts: Tucker Carlson.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/21/us/politics/trump-iran-strike.html

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2 hours ago, Basic_GnR_Fan said:

Thank GOD for Tucker Carlson!

Can you guys post an example you feel shows Tucker is good and not a smarmy douchebag? 

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U.S. Claims Drone Was Minding Own Business On Its Way To Church When Iran Attacked It Out Of Nowhere https://politics.theonion.com/u-s-claims-drone-was-minding-own-business-on-its-way-t-1835695562

Bolton Argues War With Iran Only Way To Avenge Americans Killed In Upcoming War With Iran https://www.theonion.com/bolton-argues-war-with-iran-only-way-to-avenge-american-1835704580

Chuck Schumer: ‘The American People Deserve A President Who Can More Credibly Justify War With Iran’ https://politics.theonion.com/chuck-schumer-the-american-people-deserve-a-president-1835697625

John Bolton Urges War Against The Sun After Uncovering Evidence It Has Nuclear Capabilities https://politics.theonion.com/john-bolton-urges-war-against-the-sun-after-uncovering-1835805360

Bolton Calls For Forceful Iranian Response To Continuing U.S. Aggression https://politics.theonion.com/bolton-calls-for-forceful-iranian-response-to-continuin-1835735060

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The last one was so brilliant I'll paste it all:

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Bolton Calls For Forceful Iranian Response To Continuing U.S. Aggression

WASHINGTON—Demanding that the Middle Eastern nation retaliate immediately in self-defense against the existential threat posed by America’s military operations, National Security Adviser John Bolton called for a forceful Iranian response Friday to continuing United States aggression. “Iran cannot sit idly by as the American imperialist machine encroaches on their territory, threatens their sovereignty, and endangers their very way of life,” said Bolton, warning that America’s fanatical leadership, steadfast devotion to flexing their muscles in the region, and alleged access to nuclear weapons necessitated that Iran strike back with a vigorous show of force as soon—and as hard—as possible. “The only thing these Westerners understand is violence, so it’s imperative that Iran sends a clear message that they won’t be walked over. Let’s not forget, the U.S. defied a diplomatically negotiated treaty for seemingly no reason at all-—these are dangerous radicals that cannot be reasoned with. They’ve been given every opportunity to back down, but their goal is total domination of the region, and Iran won’t stand for that.” At press time, Bolton said that the only option left on the table was for Iran to launch a full-fledged military strike against the Great Satan.

 

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15 hours ago, Oldest Goat said:

Can you guys post an example you feel shows Tucker is good and not a smarmy douchebag? 

 

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