PatrickS77

Yeah. That's what you do when you supposedly get sexually harassed and (in your mind) get professionally disrespected and maybe cheated out of money. You don't help your case and believability hanging on until you don't get paid anymore. Do you endure all that, especially the sexual harassment, just because you get paid? When you're supposedly freelancing and could look for work somewhere else.

Didn't it say in the papers she wasn't asked back?

And yet, there supposdly was sexual harrassment and her copyrights weren't honored and yet she willingly came back, year after year, after year, until they didn't ask her back. I would have way more respect for her story, if she would have left due to above reasons. The way it is, it's all fishy.

Yeah. You better not, because you totally misrepresented what I said, so don't assume I know nothing about licensing, because you managed to come up with an idiotic (and false) comparison. Where did I say that? I bought entertainment from them. And that's it. No rights. No nothing. Technically I'm not even allowed to take pictures or videos. But GNR bought Benzova's service to produce photos for them (and of them) and thus should own the work, because they paid for it and they granted Benzova the right to take pictures. If I hire a plumber to deliver and install a toilet, the toilet also is mine and I don't have to pay the plumber whenever I let a guest take a dump and charge them for it.

How do you really prove it though? How do you disprove it happened. Other than the credits thing, it's he said/she said.

Obviously, she doesn't want fame. She wants money, as her moneytrain has come to a stop. Everything she did and got to do was because of GNR.

Yeah, and that is total bullshit, giving extra priviledges to photographers. They get paid to do the work and then on top of the work they already got paid for, get to make even more money for the work they've already ben paid for. Total bullshit. If a company pays you to do work, the work should be owned by the company. Period. And it usually is. Unless you're a photographer. And it's extra absurd, considering that the work consists of taking pics of Axl, Slash and Duff performing on stage. The very people who paid her to do so. She wouldn't have anything to photograph, if they weren't on stage performing. And really, I don't care what the law is. It is bullshit.

Ok. So they sued back. If she had a leg to stand on, they probably would have settled.

Really? Or is it more like, you don't like him as a manager, find him incompetent and thus you are more easily fooled into believing negative stuff about him. And as usual, if you have a story, that is partly true, it's easily twisted into something negative. I mean, a guy telling someone they love them, can be a nice thing no one needs to think about or it can be twisted into something sinister.

Really? For what? Yeah. Not always. But sometimes they are. And really, people are not helping themselves to be believed. Especially since supposedly GNR sued her first!

And yet she worked with that band until she was let go. If it's all so horrible, why not speak up earlier? Draw consequences earlier. And not once the band cut ties with you.

right. For years they are family and everything is fine, until the moneytrain stops rolling and another guy takes pictures and suddenly they are all around bad people, to the point of sexual harrasment. As for copyright, was she freelancing for them or was she hired to do photos for them? This copyright issue really is bullshit. If I do work for my company, I also don't get copyright for the stuff my company pays me to do.

Actually pit tickets went from 450 all in until at least last friday to 250 all in come monday to 150 tuesday, though when I saw them on tuesday, I couldn't put them in the basket, so guess they were already sold by the time I saw it. I'm so pissed as friday was my cut off and deciding day and I couldn't bring myself to pay 450 for a fucking standing ticket to then stand behind the early entry people. Seriously this fucking price gauging is so annoying and really shitting in the face of people who commit when tickets go on sale.

Wow! Last count, Pit tickets went down to 136 $ from 450 $. Fucking greedy assholes.

I fucking hate them so fucking much. Pit tickets went down from 450 to 250. For much of last week I was thinking about going to the show, but just couldn't bring myself to get ripped off for a fucking standing ticket at 450 $, especially since I saw that they charged less at other dates. Now, when there is no way for me to attend, they reduced ticket prices. Across the board. The greedyness of everyone involved and unscrupulous ripping off of fans is so fucking sickening.

Yeah. They are professional side men or solo acts with very little niche success.

Well. Context. Apparantly they were late and a bit in a hurry to get Axl to wherever he needed to be. It wasn't like they slammed him against the wall, leaving him with a bloody nose. He blocked the door and he was moved away. Not really an issue of toxic environment, just an issue of being in a hurry. I remember that show. I had a flight and a ticket. Then they moved the fucking show and I couldn't go. Went to London instead.

Wow! Way to blow things out of proportion.

Down on the farm. And usually for the Duff sung songs. He used it on I wanna be your dog last year.

What does it say?? It says the one guitarist has a different opinion/preference than then other. That's all it says.

So what. Slash is a renowned guitar player too. Yeah. Got one of those. What do you mean, what's it about? It's guitar pics with the GNR logo on it.

Just because your "industry friend" says something, doesn't mean it has any merit. I call bullshit and LOL at "painfully obvious". Fans around the world seem to disagree.

Huh? More like fuck you if you don't know the songs.

Yeah. And doesn't that happen always too??

Doesn't it always?