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57 minutes ago, zombux said:
all you proved was to be a guy who likes to pour money into a sewer.
oh, I meant... spending money for plastic fake junk
Well, I don't see it that way. But I got what you mean.
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Well, today I received an email in german by GNR/UMG which reads something like:
"Hi ____, you bought the L&L box and thereby prooved that you are one of the biggest GNR fans worldwide. As a thank you ...." (at this stage I was like 🎉) "we are happy to give you a preorder-possibility and a discount of 15% to one of 50 exclusive band photo prints of Ross Halfin"
I then clicked the button to the webshop and have to learn that these fuckers seriously charge EUR 260 for one fuckin picture ... this means a photo print!
GUNS N FUCKIN ROSES, here's my answer:
PISS FUCKIN OFF!
I paid 1000 (in words: one thousand) euros for a box set and your are holding back one "exclusive" picture just to offer it to me one month later for another EUR 260 separately because I prooved that I am one of the biggest fans worldwide?!?!?! Oh, of course I forgot the discount.
I am still shaking my head. Seriously, PISS FUCKIN OFF!
Enough is enough.
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Cool article. I am a big fan of Sleaford Mods and I indeed did not expect Jason Williamson being a GNR fan, especially such a big one .
But I am not sure about his interpretation of Nightrain. It doesn't match to the song.
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Whats about adressing this topic and/or Russ's great open letter to the relevant press?!
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Nice one. Its new to me, too.
I just had a quick listen in traffic. Are there any other lyrics cleaned up beside the "fuck/back off" thing?
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38 minutes ago, ASLayerAODsk said:
sure, thats a system a 12 yr old kid would buy, because he doesnt know any better, and theres very LITTLE quality to it as well. If you think the 'THX' means anything, well it does if you have the room treatments etc, but if not, its pretty much useless. I can't see a system like this generating very good highs at all (cymbals), or detailed mids. Also I would imagine the bass would be quite muddy and unclear and non-precise. Sure it'll put out 'sound' but of any real quality level, well...Logitech isnt known for their 'quality' as per se.
clear enough for you?
39 minutes ago, ASLayerAODsk said:sure, thats a system a 12 yr old kid would buy, because he doesnt know any better, and theres very LITTLE quality to it as well. If you think the 'THX' means anything, well it does if you have the room treatments etc, but if not, its pretty much useless. I can't see a system like this generating very good highs at all (cymbals), or detailed mids. Also I would imagine the bass would be quite muddy and unclear and non-precise. Sure it'll put out 'sound' but of any real quality level, well...Logitech isnt known for their 'quality' as per se.
clear enough for you?
You did notice that @action bought this system just to be able to listen to the 5.1-AFD -version only?! Of course for this purpose you would have bought a massive thousand dollar sound system Yeah, right 🙄
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12 hours ago, ASLayerAODsk said:
you dont take 'surround' very seriously, do you? um....
Could you please explain your post?
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On 22.7.2018 at 8:30 PM, downzy said:
I've heard there's a lot of activity below the surface. I don't expect Guns to be done anytime soon, even if there's periods where the public doesn't seem much happening.
I have this gut feeling, too.
Do remember that they were able to keep this whole reunion thing top secret til the day the Troubadour show was announced ... NO ONE saw this coming. And this happened in 2016, this means in times when EVERY rumor gets spread over the net within seconds.
Maybe we will wake up pretty soon and there it is: the new album
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I am always happy about new pro shot footage and I do love this song (even though Fear's original is way better) but I think the video in no way matches the vibe of the song. In fact it seems fully out of sync, this goes especially for the parts of Axl dancing or running around.
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On 16.7.2018 at 1:28 PM, StrangerInThisTown said:
That's what the band might have thought, that the material is not good enough for the album. But there's always the same chance you're gonna like a song or not whether it was on an album or a b side or unreleased. From my experience with MANY bands I find the bonus tracks to be largely satisfying (especially a band like Oasis who are famous for their B-Sides) and more than once I thought the best track on the album was just a bonus track. Bon Jovi are a band who said they don't even sort what makes the record by quality but what fits the album as a whole, and I think many bands go by that philosophy, GNR went with it too deciding on SCOM over NR or DC. It's mindboggling how wrong bands/labels can be sometimes deciding which songs make a record. And for stuff like demos, rough mixes etc. It's just interesting to hear early versions of songs. Not something I'd regularly listen to but cool to hear nontheless.
This!
And in terms of UYI:
Alone the widley spread rough extended version of 14 years is billion times better than the actual album version. Guess what great unpolished versions of other songs there might be.
I would kill for a rough studio version of YCBM!
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Hi there,
Since I had no proper place to hang those lithos I was not really into them to date, even if some of them look nothing but awesome. Now that I have moved, I would love to have the LA 2016 Pool Skater because I have been a skateboarder and GNR fan for about 30 years each.
http://lithorati.com/na2016/2016-08-18 Los Angeles.html
How rare is this one and what is it's average price? Do you think there is any chance I might get one at "short notice" or is it impossible to get like London, Paris etc?
If one of you has one to offer, I of course would very much appreciate an pm :-)
Thanks very much for your help!
By the way: I was at London first night but to much into party mood to get the litho. I kick my ass today 😄
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Until this thread happened I always thought I have got some reasonable knowledge about GNR demos but some of you guys proofed me wrong 😄
This is one awesome thread. Thanks to your incredible table, @zombux! Nothing but incredible!
And thanks to all other Sherlock Holmes guys who put their effort and knowledge into the table's development. The whole thread reminds me of good old times browsing through gnrsource.com which I absolutely loved.
This being said my question is, if there is really no (uncirculated) demo of YCBM? I mean its a song which was around since the appetite days.
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28 minutes ago, zombux said:
definitely Prague 1992
Cool, I wasnt aware to date that there is a pro shot 😃
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2 minutes ago, NeonKinight said:
I've seen once that Axl spoke about it in a interview, and said is his favorite version of this song.
I wonder why he didn't played it more than twice, then...
Do you from the top off your head at which shows it was played?
If so, I don't need to check gnrontour ;-)
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3 hours ago, Powerage5 said:
Dunno if this is the version on the ISE single in the box set, but I believe this is the version on the original ISE single. I could be wrong though, I haven't heard it in a long time.
Same goes for me. I think its the early mix of Brownstone reased on the 12" version of one of the first singles (might be ISE). Since I am on holiday I unfortunately cannot double check or clarify if its in the LNL box at the moment.
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Well, in June 2012 a few friends of mine bought tickets last minute for the Mönchengladbach, Germany show for approx. 10-15€ because the gig sold so bad.
They were like "I can hardly get Axl Rose on DVD for this little money, so lets go out and see him live instead of watching TV at home or making the dishes."
Any further questions?
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2 minutes ago, Lio said:
@troccoli said he had no clue the cassette would be included, but he thought it was the same. He couldn't be 100% sure, because he hadn't received his box yet. I don't think he's posted anything about it since.
Ah, ok.
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8 minutes ago, Black Sabbath said:
As far as I know, @troccoli is the reason the demo tape is in there as it's basically a copy of the one he received which is where these tracks came from.
Didn't he state that it's not from him?!
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4 minutes ago, RussTCB said:
I'm inches away from cracking and ordering Locked & Loaded....
Do it, do it, do it! 😃
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2 minutes ago, jdfdemocracy1979 said:
My locked and loaded should be here sometime this week. Until then I am enjoying the super deluxe version. I'm here in Indiana and still have not gotten a shipping notification.
Don't worry. I didn't receive any shipping information either but got my box on time last friday.
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8 minutes ago, Dmac said:
You got an email? I got a confirmation email when pre ordered it like 1.5 months ago. It’s has a order number and a way to track it, but just says my order has been accepted and processed. Looks like people internationally might be gettting it first.
Mine was shipped from Universal Music in Berlin and I received it on Friday.
The delivery box I got was the one by which the L&L boxset went through the whole manufacturing process as I could see on the notes written on the box. The L&L box itself (and I guess most of the repilca stuff) was made in China. Then it went to GZ Media record plant im Czech republic who pressed the CDs and records (GZ in general is very hit or miss) and then it went to the Universal warehouse in Berlin where it was stocked until the day of release.
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I am very excited about the hidden cassette. Even though I do own an original AFD cassette I was a little bit pissed because of them not using one drawer for a cassette version of the album or LLAS instead for stupid rings. They did proof me wrong by including an exclusive rerelease of an old demo tape. Smart move.
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I blame them for wanting to milk any fan at all!
1k for the boxset was way to high, but arguable. The same goes for the price of the super deluxe set. EUR 260 for a picture print is nothing but outrageous.
Apart from that, you don't know if people who bought the L&L box just "had" the money for that, like you said. Maybe some of them had to go a hard way, to "have" the money for a once in a lifetime package from the band they adore.
GNR should go back to the Illusions-booklet and read their lyrics to this little song called "Get in the Ring". They blamed other people on a record (!) - this means in public - for ripping their fans off. 25 years later they do it themselves without turning red.
"Well ... mmmh".