JimiRose

The AI and graphics are cool and interesting enough, but I think the link between the lyrical theme and the video narrative described here is tenuous at best, and non existent in reality. there's no narrative at all really, what dark childhood memories are there? none related to the lyrics. A decaying teddy and some scary monsters hardly seem that much. Overall, good that they tried something new, the tech is obviously very good, just a shame there was no actual storyline in the video or anything deeply personal to anyone in the band. 5/10. probably won't watch it again.

You make this yourself?

Take away the stupid announcer, the crowd intro and axls rant, there's a good punk rock song there, but it just sounds so over produced for a punk rock song. if they got rid of those 3 things and made it tonally similar to its so easy, then you have a top 20 GnR rocker. But it just sounds like queen trying to do a punk song, but with an angry 13 year old featured. Still, gets me going in the gym occasionally. Catcher is a great song trapped inside a mediocre mix / release. one guitar one piano one thicker bass line and a drums with a les convoluted axl vocal and that song is great. A lot of people say CD suffered from over production which i don't agree with - apart from catcher. this song should have been much cleaner and simpler

Is wankers even a word in america? Definitely remember using wanker and tosser to americans and them getting very confused. Using fag for cigarette also caused quite a stir once, when asking for a smoke in a bar in Louisville

Not sure why people are still questioning what the surprise is - its the music video to the general, confirmed by creative works. So let's end any speculation. I understand why people are on edge about the use of Ai, but if it's actually been done to a storyline and with effort and care then there is no reason it can't be entertaining and/or effective in a music video. I wish all these rock n roll purists were there slagging slash off for doing an advert for a bank instead of defending his right to earn money, in the face of others misery. It's just typical lacklustre gnr. A song that should have been out in october, came out in december without a video, and now in late jan we're getting a video. I'm delighted theres a video, but it should have been out and ready with the release of the song. Sadly i dont think this is an indication that we will be getting monsters or atlas etc anytime soon. more like a late finishing off of the previous period. People here are being over the top negative about it, but can you blame them? we can't tell if this video is shit or a masterpiece, but using all the knowledge we have of modern day gnr, it'll probably massively suck and wimper away into nothing.

Too cheesy. The song is better than a throwaway halloween gesture. I kow halloween is big in the US but make the song feel more like a cheesy halloween grab rather than the best song GnR have left since 2008. Release it tomorrow, let it stand on its own as a genuine fully fledged song.

jarmo literally knows nothing

The new Beatles song isn't 'AI generated' it's a john lennon recording that was too grainy to use in a released piece. The remaining beatles then recorded all their studio parts (like slash and duff on axl songs) and the AI tech became good enough to isolate johns vocal and not all the background crap. Kind of like what we dream someone will use on the general phone clip. It's incredible extraction technology, not an ai song. So it appears the only person to fall for anything have been those that think that new beatles song is an AI song. It isnt. Whether you like the song or not, that is truly subjective and your own choice. And yes this is clearly a half assed, 7 week later video to the general. No idea why they couldnt release this when the song dropped. ahh appears someone beat me to the explanation!

££££££ $$$$$$$$$

Pretty sure the version we have is the official mixed and mastered version, just not officially released. The drums and vocals are definitely on purpose, and slash has been sloppy for years, maybe too on purpose to give it more of a live feel or energy. I'd like the orchestra higher in the mix, but the sound is very similar to the official released version of the general. I think what gives it the 'unfinished' sound is more likely the vocal layers and the fact that they're not all in the same time and that he's singing slightly different things under the main lead vocal, it gives it a messy feel but thats clearly what he's looking for, compared to say the massive clean crisp over produced vocal on hardskool.

We still talking on their heads..? ah who am I kidding, I'm happy all ways

I think the weight loss makes him look better, but if his hair was long combined with the much better physique, he'd still be hot. Long hair is just better on all men. Let that be a lesson to you all!

That's how bad i feel his short hair is. grow it out Axl. Maybe he is like Samson. ever noticed how shit his voice has been since his hair got shorter... Think we've finally cracked the case

I don't think we can include anything post 2010 (unless of course it was released or first played after that). There's no way any original GnR material would have been played better after that. For example 'this I love' you have vegas 2016. Reading 2010 was poor by 2010 standards yet it was 1000x better than 2016 and beyond. 2014 was generally very poor vocally. 2011/12 hit and miss. but 2006 and 2010 were two really incredible years vocally for axl, competing with 85-93 era.

It's unbelievable how much better he looks with long hair. I'm a straight man, but he is so much better looking with long hair. And badass. Axls made some bad career moves, but cutting the hair short was his worst.

£20 for a 2 song CD!??? what the fuck! full albums are £10. What absolute rip off con artists

Someone on YouTube has a couple isolated tracks the this i love orchestra thing is so good Lenny Maidana

Which sites in particular ..?

or just release the 4 we've had with another 6 and call it an album..

The question is why? They're actually really good as reference for recording your own stuff, how you can enhance sound different ways. Some were just totally weird though.

Hidden tracks was what they were called on YT. They are effectively isolated recordings of single stems of instruments or vocal layers on all the CD songs. Axl did like 50 vocal layers for some songs on CD. Different accents, whispers, high and low vocals etc and about 45 of them are turned right down to thicken the final piece. On TWAT he did this weird demonic 'LONG TIME' thing you can hear if you really listen on good sound system in the 'long time for you' bit. The orchestra under TIL, random guitar licks that sound so out of place on the final mix yet are left in, just really buried. Probably find some more frogs too like in the general

They were really interesting, gutted they got taken down. Can't think why they would have been taken down either tbh

They are definitely far superior when together. the izzy base foundation of the songs, Axl's epicness with piano/orchestra and vocal delivery the slash lead and the duff punky bass. All their solo stuff sounds exactly how they sounded indiviually in GnR, and lacks the others input. But there's still some great stuff. Slash Anastasia is as good as anything the band has done since 93. Twat is the Axl one. Duff did Chip away and shuffle it all by izzy. There's obv more good songs. Band wasted themselves.

I can hear it like a bomb going off in one bit, but can't really identify it anywhere else. It's not the end of the world, but i think coz this song is well over 20 years old and was recorded with sluff about 3-4 years ago AND it was delayed last minute for quality issues, you'd think they'd not have this sort of thing.

Listening to Monsters, I can hear what sounds like Axl high pitching more lyrics quietly in the background as well as lots of different woo hoos and other non distinguishable vocals. This made me remember the CD hidden tracks that were on Youtube for a while but I can no longer find. They were a collection of things that were buried in the mix or barely discernible in the final song, I can only assume they were taken from the rock band stems or by some crazy advanced Ai of it's time. It was random guitar licks, random axl vocals, hidden orchestras, whispers and atmospherics. Does anyone know where I can find them or were one of you the one putting them on YT? Anyone else remember these?