JimiRose

We've got perhaps and we've got the general already. we've even got soul monster and atlas shrugged that arent on the vinyl. vinyl is pointless now. GnR sat on the songs waaaaaaaay too long and they leaked. Just release everything we dont already have

Lucky all us dumb mugs keep going to watch an ever worsening show for an ever increasing cost and he's worth $300m.

I don't think that's an excuse. I've never wanted to rape someone when i have taken cocaine, or drunk alcohol or smoked weed or taken MDMA etc. I think bad people hide behind that. And if you know you have violent rage in you and drug taking exacerbates that, that is again your own fault. not the drug. most normal people take drugs and have a great time

Will we have people say he needs to tour with GnR now because he's paying 37 million dollars a day in settlement to his wife like they did with slash? 'He's only in the band because perla gets everything' fucking ridiculous

Just assume every guy likes a finger, and if he says he doesn't it's cause he hasn't tried it

If this is the direct quote i don't see much of a case. There's no excuse for any sexual abuse or physical abuse. Here she says she wanted it explicitly. she also never writes that she said 'No'. The only thing she said no to in her words was an orgy, and she left and did not partake in one. afterwards they had sex, she gave him head and they cuddled. I'm not saying rape/sexual assault can't proceed nicer things, but this just seems very hazy. Of course it could be that the scene was such that she thought this was normal sexual behaviour with rockstars/actors/celebs and heard lots of similar stories from friends and accepted it. As someone previously said, womens rights were not top of the agenda when it came to sex and the celebrity. certainly not when it came to the police (even today). I don't think theres any doubt that Axl did this. I think the issue is did she consent, did he think she consented and did anything actually illegal take place. the lawsuit says something different to what she has written above. I think men who physically abuse women are the lowest of the low, but there's definitely people out there who like their sex rougher than others. I think only those involved know deep down what is consensual and what is assault.

Like both versions tbh. It's a simplistic old school rock riff. Both singers do it justice. Would like to hear axls stephanie seymour version too

I'm straight but a blowjob is a blowjob. Just enjoy it, don't let something draconian like who is giving it, stop you from enjoying yourself! Good for your mental health and your heart, think of it as medication.

Woke? Their manager is getting done for sexually assaulting a photographer, that's about as republican and proud right wing as you can be, right? Little bit of rape, little bit or racism, little bit of sexism and power control, you got yourself the right wing!

Promoted compared to what GnR have done for everything else since 1993 - actual music video and social media post acknowledgement. But no interviews, no tv shows, no paid advertising, hardly any radio play. It didnt even qualify as the bare minimum, but coz it was more than nothing, people confused it as a big effort from this useless band. why

At this stage, the only merch needed is a new album. There's nothing left we need.

Axl is as fit as he's been since 2006, running and looking slim. However his voice is destroyed beyond repair. i hope he continues to be fit, but best to listen to him with the sound off from now on

sadly my friend, we know this won't be the case. Absolute disaster how this band has been run. probably since about 1992.

They'll have to delay the general now. This will take up 3-5 years at least sorting this. Axl couldn't have asked for something this perfect to fall into his lap and give him more excuses to not release

What music

Even Axl!?

Sadly, the history of GnR doesnt sit great with all of this...

You americans man... no healthcare, no holiday, no workers rights. At least you got guns keeping you all safe.

No doubt fernando is a self entitled dweeb who treats people like shit to hide his own insecurities. Everyone gets a defence, but it's wholly believable. I know it's a bit ignorant of us having never met him to judge him, but we've seen plenty of interactions he's had with people to have built up his personality type. From the statement provided, it does seem she's used things like the photos being sent to tarnish his character when those things are literally every other post on instagram, twitter or in whatsapp groups. but everything else if true should be instant dismissal from the band. Any guy who tries to control anyone with money or sex to make themselves feel empowered is the lowest of low in humanity. Such a weak man.

They bridge is definitely about child abuse. I'm not sure why everyone thinks every song is about slash. The first half of the lyric is all about a child trying to impress an adult and doing what it thinks will make the parent happy without knowing it was abuse, it's a common thing in cases like this. The second part is like his survivors mentality and acceptance he's waited too long for justice. 'no on left who wants the truth' 'the dirty secret' 'who thought i'd be around to shed a light on you' - I know Axl bears a grudge and is a bit pyscho, but if these lyrics are about his guitarist leaving his multi million pound success story of a band then it's genuinely insulting to humanity. but they're not, so dw! The more I did, what I did, I did for you There's no excuses for the hell on Earth you put me through I never cared how much I cared, when I cared for you To make you better there was nothin' that I wouldn't do I doubt there's anybody left that wants to know the truth The dirty secret that you hid away inside of you Who ever thought I'd be around to shed a light on you Well here's the story, baby, I got nothin' else to do

think its still about child abuse and vulnerability. the axl scream bit is obviously his comeback to his stepfather as are the choruses. The verses are a bit harder coz they could seem to be about a lover, but again i think they could be relating to child abuse and rape. One thing I don't get, if this song is what we knew as 'Soul Monster' Or 'Monstrocity' why change it to Monsters? Those other two are such better names for songs. Monsters is a bit lame in comparison, especially for such a heavy song

I like the songs released but do feel there is a 'Lazy' aspect to them. Absurd has a 1 word chorus and the same verses repeated 3 times with 1 part 2 of a verse differing. repeating guitar licks. Hardskool, again is copied verse chorus. good song, but 24 years of it sitting there... perhaps, love the hook, think it's a great song, but the repeated first verse bridge and chorus twice... it's like axl wrote half a great song and didnt know how to finish it so just played it twice. the solo is ok, but i agree, double it and have a piano solo as well. the general. same as perhaps. I love the lyrical content and the orchestra. But where's the guitar solo? why is it just verse 1 bridge chorus repeated? Monsters sounds great, would love them to double the length of slash's solo, but there's way more going on, the oo oos, the change up between verse and chorus and then the big axl finale vocal. Sounds like axl put way more effort into make that one a fully fledged song. Atlas shrugged with a great slash solo (or keep the may one) i think is a great song too. Goog songs, worthy of GnR, but they sound a lot like songs they wrote in a week in 1999, great starts great hooks and potential, then gave up on and decided actually these are good, lets just double everything and release them. which makes it baffling these werent just released in 99/2000. They have done nothing to change these songs by adding parts and lyrics. just tinkered with existing parts. Sums axl post 93 up tbh.

That certainly happens to a lot of men. I can't wait till they release a 6 inch so i can feel part of it too

Definitely no one on this forum packing a 7 inch. hence why we're here

que? What quip?