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Ashba was coming off hot from Sixx AM and the Crue record. The issue was that GNR couldn’t release an album. You were left with Ashba only showcasing himself as live player in that band. When comparing him to Fortus and Bumble in that setting, it’s easy to come up short there

It still would have been too late in 2000 for those songs imo. OMG didn’t get great traction in 1999. From what we heard from the leaks and those versions that are more stripped back? The Blues, Chinese Democracy, and There Was A Time would have fared well. Those versions should have been released

To be fair here, Bucket never really had a chance either in that live setting. He was around for essentially half a tour before the whole thing blew up. We’ve heard a lot of what he brought to the studio though, which seems like he was able to step in there, show some of his creative force and influence the sound of the band

The logistics of packing a stadium regardless of the act/event seems like a ways away

It’s relevant though. Would Axl have felt the need to reinvent with the CD era if there was something else left from previous years that was unfinished? Starting from scratch led to multiple ideas of what it should be. Ultimately that seems like it was a major issue between them The label and management probably wanted to squeeze the most possible out of them. They weren’t thinking about 5 years, careers or their well being. Not with the condition Slash Duff and even Axl were in. Not with Steven gone and Izzy one foot out of the door. Everyone was cashing in on them

Maybe. An issue thats gets overlooked is that they pretty much emptied the vault for the Illusions. For the most part, their songs could take years to complete going to back before Appetite Sure Izzy was a major cog that was missing, but I’m not sure if that would have sped things up either. They probably needed to hold back some of the material. Songs such as Breakdown, Locomotive etc... could have used some more time in the oven and provided a starting point for the next record. Starting from scratch could have been daunting for a band that had previously relied on something left in th

Good stuff! I bought my vinyl back when it was released just so I could listen to Coma (the Japanese CD import was more expensive at the time) That album is def not something I bring out for a listen. It’s more of a collection piece than anything now and it’s stored correctly. Maybe I should have bought more! They were around $30 on Amazon back then I get that the price point for a Live Era reissue may be a bit much. Doesn’t explain why they haven’t done TSI though. Not that anything can be explained with this band

It may kill the band in that will the guaranteed money they draw in the future still be worth it to those 3? Especially in a crowded live music space when things return. Everyone will be touring. The market will be flooded. $ will be more scarce from promoters and fans

Id certainly be interested in hearing it. Remember the end of SCOM 99. It’s really nothing like the original recording or the live versions. I would think if AFD 99 exists, there would be more moments like that

Not likely. The tempos wouldn’t match. Guns didn’t play live to a click back then

Im happy with just grabbing the vinyl from the store a while back. Came with a red cassette. Also grabbed the CD version back when it was 40 bucks. in essence I got the vinyl, cds, the cassette, the litho and the rest of the bs for around 150

This stuff obviously wasn’t mixed for release and pulled straight from the source. What works live in a building often doesn’t translate elsewhere. At a certain point it’s not releasable for even a passing YouTube upload. It needs to be edited and remixed (if they even have multi tracks )

I believe they were done trying to sabotage each other’s projects by that point. Duff had shared the stage and the ice had been broken. Would it have happened/broached in 2013? Maybe not for timing reasons, but I think they were able to think about the brand and what they could work together on if not a possible reunion down the line

I doubt they’re from the same session. That would mean the source material live is at the same tempo as the re-recording. Which they never played to a click live. It would be lunacy for even GNR to recreate it They definitely redid parts for Live Era. A lot of bands did this for live albums. I’m pretty sure Robin was used for some backing vocals. I think that would have been done separately. They had the studio booked the entire time to do it. It could have been something where Gilby/Izzy weren’t directly in front of their mic on the source material. They weren’t going to call in t

The band didn’t perform to a click live back then. Therefore anything they had probably didn’t line up in time with anything they had recorded. If vocals exist, they were most likely done separately and are different from Live Era takes is my guess

Mainly because that was going to be his role. He’d take the Bucket leads in a 2 guitar lineup going back and forth with Robin in 2006. It’s a shame we didn’t see that

Only if people would pay 2k per ticket

For the fanbase to have “first dibs” to pay full price for tickets. For that opportunity, you pay a membership fee. It’s a virtual shakedown street

Yeah but they aren’t currently in print and haven’t been reissued since they were originally released Yeah but they aren’t currently in print and haven’t been reissued since they were originally released

Now reissue live era and the spaghetti incident

Well besides it being Irving Azoff.... He’s a master manipulator and that’s something right up his alley. Especially when it comes to reuniting artists for his gain. Not sure if he flat out didn’t pay him, but he could have made the situation for him more unstable than it already was (given the nature of GNR). Azoff could have known Trent was probably going to call, and he very well could put Robin in a position beforehand that he couldn’t say no to the offer

Well marriage also isn’t for everyone. Let the man make and live with those decisions whatever they may be. This stuff has nothing to do with the band and not releasing music. Although there’s some interesting comments about Doug and Fernando here, who knows where it’s coming from

If you can get your $ back, I’d suggest you do it. There are no guarantees there are shows next year. If there are shows, everyone will be touring and there will probably be some very competitive deals out there to replace your ticket

Small business is more defined in the amount of people they employ. The SBA program was designed to keep people employed on payroll in businesses that were affected by Covid instead of those workers being unemployed and therefore on state unemployment. The music business has been affected and they surely do qualify. This also isn’t Slash/Duff/Axl paying themselves. It’s everyone else they have on payroll. People in their camp rely on those shows happening for income. Shows provide the infrastructure for that to happen. You can ask why don’t they pay them out of their personal pockets, but

The music business is entirely affected by Covid during this time and in the future. That’s exactly what these loans were meant for. It keeps people paid intermediately. Theres a lot of overhead for these bands