stratus Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Very sad to hear that the venue got trashed by heavy winds. I seen some people questioning how... Well, I do audio/video rigging and staging. I can tell you this. The stage, temporoary or permanent, is built well. What happens is the rain soaked ground gets soft and the support braces under the main stage, begin to bowe (bend) causing a lot of tension on the braces, other supports, scaffolding etc. All this shit weighs a ton. Then when the wind catches the structure, down it goes. Picture a house, with a basement. If ya have any crumbling support, it will bring down the house, literally. If the basement is built with a solid foundation, under the concrete. It is rock solid. Sounds pretty childish to explain it like this but it is the case. If it was indeed a tornado, then anyone can tell you, the venue got lucky. I remember the concert in Calgary with couuntry artist Tim McGraw. A small tornado ripped through that area and tore the staging to pieces.I would assume, if there is a re-scheduled show tomorrow night. GNR will indeed be using the Brasilia/Belo Horizonte/Alegre stage. Smaller but it is easy to setup and there shouldn't be any damage to it, if it was in storage. That small stage can be built in a few hours vs. the full show stage that takes 9+ hours from ground to rigging.Again,Glad 2 hear everyone is safe. Hope the fans don't hold this against Axl and GNR. It's one of the downsides of an "open air" stadium. Would have been a killer show. From what I've read, fans seem to be quietly disgressing about the show cancellation. Probably quite thankful they weren't in there when this happened. If fans were in the venue. It's almost a certainty that there would be fatalites.Props to all of the rescue workers who evacuated quickly and got the place under control.And give it up to Axl, for personally tweeting out the message to his fans instead of a sign at the gate. Let's hope for another show tomorrow!Best post on this thread so far, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicEffecT Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 (edited) Very sad to hear that the venue got trashed by heavy winds. I seen some people questioning how... Well, I do audio/video rigging and staging. I can tell you this. The stage, temporoary or permanent, is built well. What happens is the rain soaked ground gets soft and the support braces under the main stage, begin to bowe (bend) causing a lot of tension on the braces, other supports, scaffolding etc. All this shit weighs a ton. Then when the wind catches the structure, down it goes. Picture a house, with a basement. If ya have any crumbling support, it will bring down the house, literally. If the basement is built with a solid foundation, under the concrete. It is rock solid. Sounds pretty childish to explain it like this but it is the case. If it was indeed a tornado, then anyone can tell you, the venue got lucky. I remember the concert in Calgary with couuntry artist Tim McGraw. A small tornado ripped through that area and tore the staging to pieces.I would assume, if there is a re-scheduled show tomorrow night. GNR will indeed be using the Brasilia/Belo Horizonte/Alegre stage. Smaller but it is easy to setup and there shouldn't be any damage to it, if it was in storage. That small stage can be built in a few hours vs. the full show stage that takes 9+ hours from ground to rigging.Again,Glad 2 hear everyone is safe. Hope the fans don't hold this against Axl and GNR. It's one of the downsides of an "open air" stadium. Would have been a killer show. From what I've read, fans seem to be quietly disgressing about the show cancellation. Probably quite thankful they weren't in there when this happened. If fans were in the venue. It's almost a certainty that there would be fatalites.Props to all of the rescue workers who evacuated quickly and got the place under control.And give it up to Axl, for personally tweeting out the message to his fans instead of a sign at the gate. Let's hope for another show tomorrow!Best post on this thread so far, thanks! You're welcome! Edited March 15, 2010 by MicEffecT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocketKing99 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 This stage collapse happened in Canada:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWh9LwoBvYwThis could have happened tonight. We could have had some attendants not returning home to their babies . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Plant® Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Very sad to hear that the venue got trashed by heavy winds. I seen some people questioning how... Well, I do audio/video rigging and staging. I can tell you this. The stage, temporoary or permanent, is built well. What happens is the rain soaked ground gets soft and the support braces under the main stage, begin to bowe (bend) causing a lot of tension on the braces, other supports, scaffolding etc. All this shit weighs a ton. Then when the wind catches the structure, down it goes. Picture a house, with a basement. If ya have any crumbling support, it will bring down the house, literally. If the basement is built with a solid foundation, under the concrete. It is rock solid. Sounds pretty childish to explain it like this but it is the case. If it was indeed a tornado, then anyone can tell you, the venue got lucky. I remember the concert in Calgary with couuntry artist Tim McGraw. A small tornado ripped through that area and tore the staging to pieces.I would assume, if there is a re-scheduled show tomorrow night. GNR will indeed be using the Brasilia/Belo Horizonte/Alegre stage. Smaller but it is easy to setup and there shouldn't be any damage to it, if it was in storage. That small stage can be built in a few hours vs. the full show stage that takes 9+ hours from ground to rigging.Again,Glad 2 hear everyone is safe. Hope the fans don't hold this against Axl and GNR. It's one of the downsides of an "open air" stadium. Would have been a killer show. From what I've read, fans seem to be quietly disgressing about the show cancellation. Probably quite thankful they weren't in there when this happened. If fans were in the venue. It's almost a certainty that there would be fatalites.Props to all of the rescue workers who evacuated quickly and got the place under control.And give it up to Axl, for personally tweeting out the message to his fans instead of a sign at the gate. Let's hope for another show tomorrow!The fans understood the cancelation decision, only a few complains, there was nothing else to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MicEffecT Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 This stage collapse happened in Canada:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWh9LwoBvYwThis could have happened tonight. We could have had some attendants not returning home to their babies .Yes that's the one I was referring to. Thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonehill Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Ahhhhhhhh!JB- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deb Rose Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 I'm gonna try to get some sleep.Will be back tomorrow morning to check if I can go stand in line again.Hopefully, that will be a yes.Good Night to all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loaded Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 People That Were There Reported Seeing A Guy With An Axe And A Top hat. They said that he laughed maniacally and tore the stage down.Any ideas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Very sad to hear that the venue got trashed by heavy winds. I seen some people questioning how... Well, I do audio/video rigging and staging. I can tell you this. The stage, temporoary or permanent, is built well. What happens is the rain soaked ground gets soft and the support braces under the main stage, begin to bowe (bend) causing a lot of tension on the braces, other supports, scaffolding etc. All this shit weighs a ton. Then when the wind catches the structure, down it goes. Picture a house, with a basement. If ya have any crumbling support, it will bring down the house, literally. If the basement is built with a solid foundation, under the concrete. It is rock solid. Sounds pretty childish to explain it like this but it is the case. If it was indeed a tornado, then anyone can tell you, the venue got lucky. I remember the concert in Calgary with couuntry artist Tim McGraw. A small tornado ripped through that area and tore the staging to pieces.I would assume, if there is a re-scheduled show tomorrow night. GNR will indeed be using the Brasilia/Belo Horizonte/Alegre stage. Smaller but it is easy to setup and there shouldn't be any damage to it, if it was in storage. That small stage can be built in a few hours vs. the full show stage that takes 9+ hours from ground to rigging.Again,Glad 2 hear everyone is safe. Hope the fans don't hold this against Axl and GNR. It's one of the downsides of an "open air" stadium. Would have been a killer show. From what I've read, fans seem to be quietly disgressing about the show cancellation. Probably quite thankful they weren't in there when this happened. If fans were in the venue. It's almost a certainty that there would be fatalites.Props to all of the rescue workers who evacuated quickly and got the place under control.And give it up to Axl, for personally tweeting out the message to his fans instead of a sign at the gate. Let's hope for another show tomorrow!Thanks for a clear explanation of what happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Very sad to hear that the venue got trashed by heavy winds. I seen some people questioning how... Well, I do audio/video rigging and staging. I can tell you this. The stage, temporoary or permanent, is built well. What happens is the rain soaked ground gets soft and the support braces under the main stage, begin to bowe (bend) causing a lot of tension on the braces, other supports, scaffolding etc. All this shit weighs a ton. Then when the wind catches the structure, down it goes. Picture a house, with a basement. If ya have any crumbling support, it will bring down the house, literally. If the basement is built with a solid foundation, under the concrete. It is rock solid. Sounds pretty childish to explain it like this but it is the case. If it was indeed a tornado, then anyone can tell you, the venue got lucky. I remember the concert in Calgary with couuntry artist Tim McGraw. A small tornado ripped through that area and tore the staging to pieces.I would assume, if there is a re-scheduled show tomorrow night. GNR will indeed be using the Brasilia/Belo Horizonte/Alegre stage. Smaller but it is easy to setup and there shouldn't be any damage to it, if it was in storage. That small stage can be built in a few hours vs. the full show stage that takes 9+ hours from ground to rigging.Again,Glad 2 hear everyone is safe. Hope the fans don't hold this against Axl and GNR. It's one of the downsides of an "open air" stadium. Would have been a killer show. From what I've read, fans seem to be quietly disgressing about the show cancellation. Probably quite thankful they weren't in there when this happened. If fans were in the venue. It's almost a certainty that there would be fatalites.Props to all of the rescue workers who evacuated quickly and got the place under control.And give it up to Axl, for personally tweeting out the message to his fans instead of a sign at the gate. Let's hope for another show tomorrow!Thanks for a clear explanation of what happened.cool write up but Miceffect was not there he is pertaining to his own experience with stagin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solldado Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 According to sources at the bands hotel in Rio, there won't be a show on the 15th. The crew is leaving for Porto Alegre in the morning.Theres still no word about a later date in Rio. The promoters will probably confirm it tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 According to sources at the bands hotel in Rio, there won't be a show on the 15th. The crew is leaving for Porto Alegre in the morning.Theres still no word about a later date in Rio. The promoters will probably confirm it tomorrow.you have a source at the hotel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Unbelievable. Scary news to hear.It's truly a blessing in disguise that this happened before the doors had even been opened. While it must be incredibly disappointing for the fans who did not get to see the show, it is a miracle that the band and the fans were not inside the venue. Good to hear that there were no serious injuries. Hopefully the band will reschedule this show soon and give these fans the great concert they have all been waiting for! Also, nice to see Axl's posts on Twitter giving constant updates regarding the situation. Very professional and handled quite well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo Morrison Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 (edited) According to sources at the bands hotel in Rio, there won't be a show on the 15th. The crew is leaving for Porto Alegre in the morning.Theres still no word about a later date in Rio. The promoters will probably confirm it tomorrow.you have a source at the hotel?Would like to know this source as well, although the ground at Rio must still be waterlogged I'd like a confirmation on this.....In addition Straight line winds from a T-storm can cause damage similar to a tornado.People That Were There Reported Seeing A Guy With An Axe And A Top hat. They said that he laughed maniacally and tore the stage down.Any ideas "All tings considered" Oh my god dude I'd need ta see a pic... Edited March 15, 2010 by Mojo Morrison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratus Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 According to sources at the bands hotel in Rio, there won't be a show on the 15th. The crew is leaving for Porto Alegre in the morning.Theres still no word about a later date in Rio. The promoters will probably confirm it tomorrow.you have a source at the hotel?I'm sure he was reading the follow-ups and left without giving us an answer. Damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Takeshi Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 People That Were There Reported Seeing A Guy With An Axe And A Top hat. They said that he laughed maniacally and tore the stage down.Any ideas This guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsguy Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 (edited) According to sources at the bands hotel in Rio, there won't be a show on the 15th. The crew is leaving for Porto Alegre in the morning.Theres still no word about a later date in Rio. The promoters will probably confirm it tomorrow.you have a source at the hotel?I'm sure he was reading the follow-ups and left without giving us an answer. Damn.I was being sarcastic actually lol. I think everyone needs to just wait they will inform everyone when they decide what to do, today was a great example of using the internet to get a message across.source of photo http://tvbackstage.blogspot.com/2010/03/palco-desaba-e-show-do-guns-n-roses-foi.html Edited March 15, 2010 by gunsguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLCPUNK Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 The most important thing is no fatalities. It could have been much worse if this happened after the place filled up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FuddMckagan Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Damn, just proves what weather can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stratus Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Thanks for this pic. I wanted to share something for a while, but lacked solid proof: left side and main stage are up as you can see, the right side (big screen) are gone. I think if they remove the junk, gig is doable tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scumcat Esq. Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 People That Were There Reported Seeing A Guy With An Axe And A Top hat. They said that he laughed maniacally and tore the stage down.Any ideas This guy?No. This one: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaos Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 DJ tweeted about 2 hours ago incase people missed,Dj ASHBA™On Monday 15th March 2010, @DJASHBA said: RIO UPDATE: All injuries appear to be minor. There were originally radio reports of a fatality which has fortunately turned out to be false. Initial reports are that our staging is for the most part ok but a more accurate assessment is being made. No word yet on if the show will be moved to tomorrow the 15th or another night. Reportedly Baz's truck driver is ok as well. They're now saying the venue actually experienced a minor tornado. Thank you again for your understanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scumcat Esq. Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 So basically he's citing what Axl 'tweeted' earlier, except for el gordo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaos Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 oh yah so he did, the one before thatit's fuckn too early in the am man lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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