Kill Devil Hill Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Brian May's solo was amazing.My favorite part is the whole, "You decide," verse. "As I'm imaginiiiiing it to be" is just magical.I prefer the final cut, but Brian's solo > Bumblefoot's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 (edited) Brian May's solo was amazing.My favorite part is the whole, "You decide," verse. "As I'm imaginiiiiing it to be" is just magical.I prefer the final cut, but Brian's solo > Bumblefoot's.Axl said that Ron's solo was derived from May's and I can kinda hear it. To me both approaches fit, but in different ways.The 'crazyness' of Bumble's solo as someone said earlier in this thread reflects nicely the crazy nature of the song, and the solo is very energetic and dramatic in contrast to the more lyrical, melodic and tastefull May's solo.The studio version still works, the changes made in the song didn't ruin anything for me, but both versions contain negative and possitive qualities.I wonder if we'll ever hear May's work in Atlas Shrugged. Really interested in that after hearing his playing could work so well in a Gn'R song like Catcher. Edited October 25, 2011 by Rovim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ben9785 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 (edited) I've talked to people that have heard the Buckethead version and Bumblefoot has basically ruined it Oh, I would be interested to hear Buckethead's take on the solo.. Too bad it hasn't been shared. At least the demo came out though.. Edited October 25, 2011 by ben9785 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill Devil Hill Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Brian May's solo was amazing.My favorite part is the whole, "You decide," verse. "As I'm imaginiiiiing it to be" is just magical.I prefer the final cut, but Brian's solo > Bumblefoot's.Axl said that Ron's solo was derived from May's and I can kinda hear it. To me both approaches fit, but in different ways.The 'crazyness' of Bumble's solo as someone said earlier in this thread reflects nicely the crazy nature of the song, and the solo is very energetic and dramatic in contrast to the more lyrical, melodic and tastefull May's solo.The studio version still works, the changes made in the song didn't ruin anything for me, but both versions contain negative and possitive qualities.I wonder if we'll ever hear May's work in Atlas Shrugged. Really interested in that after hearing his playing could work so well in a Gn'R song like Catcher.Bumble's solo is great; May's is just better in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birk Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 w/May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ben9785 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 (edited) Thanks BirkAre there two demo versions of this song?I have a 'demo' version of it as well which is similar although I noticed a few small differences; in this version Birk posted, the little melodic fill at the 2.02 mark here sounds like synth/strings (similar to the album version), whereas the demo I have has the Buckethead guitar/echo effects more prominent. Also the piano in this version is a little clearer/louder (not as muddy) and the overall tempo seems to be a bit slower.. Edited October 25, 2011 by ben9785 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Thanks BirkAre there two demo versions of this song?I have a 'demo' version of it as well which is similar although I noticed a few small differences; in this version Birk posted, the little melodic fill at the 2.02 mark here sounds like synth/strings (similar to the album version), whereas the demo I have has the Buckethead guitar/echo effects more prominent. Also the piano in this version is a little clearer/louder (not as muddy) and the overall tempo seems to be a bit slower..I think what you are hearing are just fans trying to "improve" the sound quality of the same demo by applying their own form of EQ to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salx Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I prefer the demo version any day, and twice on sundays. The Brian May solo is better, more simple and straight ahead and the ending is perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintari Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 (edited) The only thing that's superior imo in the demo is the drumming. It's higher in the mix which adds so much more. The solo is a preference call and I think both are great so neither takes away from the other. Edited October 25, 2011 by Nintari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ben9785 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Thanks BirkAre there two demo versions of this song?I have a 'demo' version of it as well which is similar although I noticed a few small differences; in this version Birk posted, the little melodic fill at the 2.02 mark here sounds like synth/strings (similar to the album version), whereas the demo I have has the Buckethead guitar/echo effects more prominent. Also the piano in this version is a little clearer/louder (not as muddy) and the overall tempo seems to be a bit slower..I think what you are hearing are just fans trying to "improve" the sound quality of the same demo by applying their own form of EQ to itYeah I thought that could be the case but it sounds like individual instrument tracks are a little different, e.g. piano has more reverb, the background vocals are a little higher.. Unless it was done through pro tools or higher end software like that. Never mind, thanks anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I wonder if Buckethead did a version?Yes, he did. Sounds more like Brian's solo and not completely different like what Bumble did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I wonder if Buckethead did a version?Yes, he did. Sounds more like Brian's solo and not completely different like what Bumble did.How did you hear it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagarin Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I've talked to people that have heard the Buckethead version and Bumblefoot has basically ruined it Hmm? Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno P. Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Bull-fucking-shit. I'm not saying Bucket didn't play on the track but there's no Bucket on the demo. I've never heard about a Catcher demo with Bucket playing lead... that's certainly a lie. Anyway I'm glad Axl did chose Ron because it's my fav GnR song ever and the outro is GnR's finest moment to me by a fuckin' mile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ben9785 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 (edited) Bull-fucking-shit. I'm not saying Bucket didn't play on the track but there's no Bucket on the demo. I've never heard about a Catcher demo with Bucket playing lead... that's certainly a lie. Anyway I'm glad Axl did chose Ron because it's my fav GnR song ever and the outro is GnR's finest moment to me by a fuckin' mile.In my post I was suggesting was that some parts of the guitar work on the demo sounded like an echo/guitar effect that Buckethead would do.Otherwise the other comment in relation to Buckethead was speculation as to whether he may at some point had attempted a solo on a version of "Catcher". Edited October 25, 2011 by ben9785 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I wonder if Buckethead did a version?Yes, he did. Sounds more like Brian's solo and not completely different like what Bumble did.How did you hear it?A handful of people have it and I was told about it by an acquaintance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno P. Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 Bull-fucking-shit. I'm not saying Bucket didn't play on the track but there's no Bucket on the demo. I've never heard about a Catcher demo with Bucket playing lead... that's certainly a lie. Anyway I'm glad Axl did chose Ron because it's my fav GnR song ever and the outro is GnR's finest moment to me by a fuckin' mile.In my post I was suggesting was that some parts of the guitar work on the demo sounded like an echo/guitar effect that Buckethead would do.Otherwise the other comment in relation to Buckethead was speculation as to whether he may at some point had attempted a solo on a version of "Catcher".It's ok, my post wasn't directed to you - I was talking to people claiming that there's a Bucket version out there which obviously is a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagarin Posted October 26, 2011 Share Posted October 26, 2011 ^Uh, how can you be so sure it's obviously a lie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 ^ I don't believe a Buckethead demo exist either and I have no source to claim that. Its just because people here are always dissing Ron, saying how Buckehtead's work were always far better. From what I heard on Riad, I very much doubt Axl would replace any Buckethead work if it wasn't just that good to begin with. And well, I love Bucket's work, but I can't stand his repetitive licks over and over. See what I meant: The demo is a classic piece of music. I love it. I also love the final version, it's just different. Thing I can never pick out, if I remember correctly, it's credits both Ron and Robin for guitar solos in 'Catcher', but it all sounds like Ron to me. I know Ron plays the main solo but I assumed maybe Robin is playing some of the outro somewhere but I could never pick it out...?Listen to both the demo and the album version, you'll notice some leads are the same: before the 1st chorus and during it, right after the main solo and before the 2nd chorus.Also, the demo version had an awesome rhythm guitar by Robin at the ending. It starts when Axl sings "Who cares to be... not like you, unlike me" and goes along with Brian May's ending solo, that starts when he sings "You are the instrument...". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birk Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I dont even remember where any of my demos even went anymore, but i remember they were great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadSlash Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Who plays drums on the Catcher in the Rhye demo (brian may version). Josh Freese?99? Was Josh Freese even born yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno P. Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 ^Uh, how can you be so sure it's obviously a lie?Because I've never seen anyone mentioning it before and all of sudden there's a demo with Buckethead playing lead out there? Please. We've seen this kind of lie countless times. I never said it *IS* a lie in fact, but I highly doubt it exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalis Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I really love the Brian May solo.People who think otherwise have no taste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YOUCOULDBEMINE. Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 Axl's voice is awful on Catcher, I'll take the acoustic version over both the demo and album verions anytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gunns5 Posted October 27, 2011 Share Posted October 27, 2011 I miss Pitmans synth bridge before the 'nana nananaas" from the Demo version. I actually kinda miss that more than Mays solo especially now that I've gotten into Rons solo more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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