wasted Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 thats what I figure. they didn't go full Democracy on us, there's still some GNR sounding songs on CD.Riad and IRS are like the court case years. Prostitute really puts the nail in the coffin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Sorry and IFW do sound like the most progressive and most far removed from classic GN'R on the album. Other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 Same with Shackler's and Scarped really. CD and Riad and IRS are grungier. I'm sort of expecting Dj to bring the operatic goth rockers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 What would that be like? Ron would do some weird futuristic stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I guess Sixx Am or Evanescence influenced. Prostitute seems close to that. Ron could do Strawberry Fields of Locomotive After Midnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 That wound sound awesome actually. Axl knows how to make weird ideas sound amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 They should cover and Evanescence song to see how it goes. use The 9th Gate theme as an intro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) I put in chronological order once by when it was written. So it kind of went from opening with TIL to Sorry."This I Love" - (1994-2007)TIL was started before 1994. Check these quotes I have on the song:Axl: I wrote and recorded a new love song that I want on the next record called 'This I Love', that's the heaviest thing that I've ever done [Hit Parader, 1993].Dave Dominguez: 'This I Love' is actually an old GN'R song that the original GN'R wrote and recorded for the 'Illusion' records. I like that song a lot.. it took a couple of weeks to find all the tapes because they finished recording 'Use Your Illusions' on the road and one tape was in Paris another in London and another in Sydney, I believe [Dave Dominguez, elsewhere, April 2005].Axl: ['This I Love' is] still [the heaviest thing I've written] and ultimately a great healing experience to compose something you have no real idea you're capable of such as the bridge. It's a lot more intricate than I think most realize yet as the guitar and vocals are placed as they should be so dominant. The main string melody in that section I had originally written to a hip-hop loop as well [chinesedemocracy.com, December 13, 2008].Axl, explaining what he is most proud of: Right now a lot on [Chinese Democracy]. For me musically it would have to be the orchestral arrangement in the bridge of TIL [chinesedemocracy.com, December 13, 2008].Axl, talking about making Chinese Democracy: I didn’t want to do This I love in anyway shape or form and Robin and Caram insisted gaining Tommy’s and the others support [mygnrforum.com, December 14, 2008].Axl, paraphrased: This may be the only GN'R song written in France [Concert in Amnéville, France, September 2010].Dj, talking about his favorite song off Chinese Democracy: Probably ‘This I Love’ is one that really hooked me, because it’s just a great song, lyrically and musically; it goes through a rollercoaster of emotions. It’s very heartfelt, you can tell [Classic Rock Magazine; June 23, 2011].Source: http://www.a-4-d.com/t158-this-i-love#186 Edited February 6, 2012 by SoulMonster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 It's kind of how Nov Rain started back in Indiana. I the 94 date must studio version for CD sessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I get thenimpression that TIL and Catcher aren't strictly CD era. To me those songs are like in a twilight zone between the albums. That's why I find it interesting to listen to them then Chi dem starts up. Also the material gets more concise towards the end finishing on Sorry is kind of amazing. So Prostitute is kind of like the dawn of a new era rather than the end. It fades into Shacklers or Better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I believe Better was recorded between 2001 and 2002, at least the instrumentals, because Paul Tobias was still there. But he wasnt on any Bucket's songs, so I assume these were from sometime between 2002 and, obviously, 2004.There is also this problem: I believe that songs like Scraped and If The World were already recorded by 2003 or so, but Axl only recorded the verses by 2005-06. So its kinda hard to put a single date for those tracks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 I was wondering about the chronology ofbthose songs.Was itBetterShacklersItwScraped SorryOr was ITW last? That would be could intro to CD 2 ITW playing in background. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeBaZ Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 (edited) Axl: Fuck you, Im Axl Rose and I can travel in time. I wrote TIL in February 1927 Edited February 6, 2012 by SeBaZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyrai Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monstrosity_(song) who knows ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monstrosity_(song) who knows ?Exactly the same info as that fake single disc. So yeah, fake too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I know Catcher was sort of a last minute idea. Atlas Shrugged was almost in the place of it if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I remember forum chat of Catcher and Riad coming up to release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I was wondering about the chronology ofbthose songs.Was itBetterShacklersItwScraped SorryOr was ITW last? That would be could intro to CD 2 ITW playing in background.That mono section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 another sequence could by leak. it would be similar but keeping TIL to the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I know Catcher was sort of a last minute idea. Atlas Shrugged was almost in the place of it if I remember correctly.Not sure where this came from, but if Axl said he wasn't happy with Atlas mix, I guess it wasn't that last minute - I mean, maybe it was still in 2007, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I am pretty sure everything on the album was wrapped up by 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Like he said they swapped out a version of a song. not changed a song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Leaving more tracks to be finished or god forbid, left in storage files Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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