Guest NewGNRnOldGNR Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) I think SOD shouldnt be a staple; neither should Better.Both are CD singles, it makes absolute sense to play those tracks. What was apparent to me at the show is the level of vocal effort that There Was A Time requires, because of that rendition it was clear Axl physically wouldn't be capable of an Asian encore. And let's consider the context, the 3rd show in an extensive season spanning tour schedule, it was an intimate statement to the gathering fans.I can't articulate how much I appreciate that, & Axl's natural interaction with the audience. Backstage was an honour, personally & professionally Bumblefoot is a class act. I also liked speaking to Frank, DJ & Chris. Engaging in criticism of the current incarnation is more difficult with the benefit of experiencing Guns N' Roses in a less explicit, intimate environment. I don't have a sense of urgency regarding studio time now, because what was clear to me is that the players share a real, sustainable, almost indefinite chemistry. Edited May 18, 2012 by NewGNRnOldGNR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Video of Mi Amor 2.0?!?!?!?!?!not yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 4tus is a monster. Good stuff. If he had just a little more pop and focus - some catchy Joe Perry licks - there'd be no choice but to call him the lead guitarist. Also, I agree that the Better/solo/solo/SOD spot is a weak point in the set. I think SOD shouldnt be a staple; neither should Better, neither should Sorry. Those are the three weakest songs on Chi Dem, imo, and they're the three which are always played! Shit.Good job Axl putting TWAT as part of the encore - Chi Dem monsters like TWAT, CITR, IRS, Prostitute could be rotated and maybe put one or two in the encore. Shackler's should be a staple and Scraped and Riad could be rotated or coupled, probably in the main set to keep the momentum going. Take Better/SOD out and put in those and you've got a lean machine. OMG, Silkworms or even Down on the Farm could be nice addition also, probably towards the end. Then again a new fucking song would go great too.Btw, that Rosie was the best one I've seen in...maybe a couple years. That's a good indicator of Axl's voice. Nice Boys is probably around the corner!Good job Frank, you're a beast.Dont confuse your opinion with common sense. SOD and Better are two of the most accesible and liked songs on Chinese. I don't like This I Love that much (IMO, the only thing good is the solo), but I can understand that people like the song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angeles_ Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) Edited May 18, 2012 by Angeles_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Awesome to see the band mixing in some different songs on this run of the tour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Holy fuck! What an encore. Listening to Fortus' new solo right now. I'll have to look through the updates but I'm glad to see the show went off just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jfrost Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Awesome show last night....but I had to leave early...During "Another Brick in the Wall" as my daughter's head was been blown away (she is just 10 so give her a break guys)......but while there I recorded what I heard and it hasn't come out to bad.Should I up this incompete Audio (Flac) or is there news of another recording appearing???If I'm to up it it will be available tomorrow afternoon (slow connection)Here is a 320kbps sample.....Richard Fortus SoloPs. Axl's vocals were outstanding.. IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eu4ic Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) KetchupnotMayo, EstrangedFx, Voodoochild- Well I agree that Scraped has been shitty live; I was saying that if he could pull it off it might be better-suited than Better in terms of keeping the rock show going. But being that you're right it hasnt been pulled off live, it's probably better to keep that one away.SOD is great studio wise but live I'm not so sure. Vocally he doesnt pull it off. Musically you need an orchestra and right venue to do it justice. Lyrically it's awesome I agree. Dont get me wrong - if they were done correctly I've argued they should play a few special gigs with just Chi Dem songs! Better sounds more dated and ripped off than any Chi Dem song, imo. Sounds like a Marilyn Manson/Korn song with a good Axl scream and "na na na" plus a blistering BH solo. 'Accessibility' and 'being liked' is not the sole purpose of making/performing a song. There are some great parts of better, I just dont like the way it was mixed together personally and it just isnt Axl to me.NewGNROldGNR- Must've been a real treat to meet the guys. They all seem amazing and I can only imagine the camaraderie they share. And yes, it's easier for me to be critical because I dont know the guys, and that isnt always a bad thing. My intentions are certainly not malicious and I dont criticize anything I dont feel I have a strong grasp on. Forums like this are for saying what you want and nobody forces anybody to read anything. Edited May 18, 2012 by Eu4ic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Silent Jay Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 finally ! we've got a good quality video. awesome performance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vengenz Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 great audio quality! at least axl's voice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angeles_ Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) Edited May 18, 2012 by Angeles_ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Thanks Angeles_! I had that Chromeboy2003 channel left open here but didn't see TWAT yet. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl_on_drums Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Has anything surfaced of Axl talking to the crowd after..I had to bail right after PC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iftheworld Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Is it me or does it look like Rons' right eye is red and screwed up when I stare at the frozen picture on TWAT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Jay Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 (edited) axl needs to work on the verses of TWATedit : Mi amor 2.0 Edited May 18, 2012 by tranconneuse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scaramouche Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Is it me or does it look like Rons' right eye is red and screwed up when I stare at the frozen picture on TWAT?Yep! He have this new look, with "blood" from both eyes. Looked pretty cool!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CivilWar07 Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Seriously still buzzing after that gig... Was madness!!! Also missed the mic after Paradise by an arms length!!! Gutted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeBaZ Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 any notice of new bbf's solo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scaramouche Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 axl needs to work on the verses of TWATIt was pretty much a random song to play, I don't think it was planned. He never sing it, I was right in front of him, and the song sounded great as a whole. Of course it will get better with time. I'm SO HAPPY I screamed for TWAT when it was all quiet, and Axl stood right in front of me! Gosh, they did it. Just got back from Dublin now, will write more about the show later. Really need some sleep...! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy Jesus Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 axl needs to work on the verses of TWATedit : Mi amor 2.0 Ashba changed that big time. It sounds a lot less like a Sixx A.M. filler solo and more like a GNR song with out words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruno P. Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Yes, DJ's new version of his solo is better than the previous one. I'm glad he changed it - I like it much better now It's his best solo to date, no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabia Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 This is fantastic. Thanks for posting, Angeles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Thanks esteban and gnrbootlegs, the (almost) full audio bootleg:http://www.mediafire.com/?4z9t06zagvgipm7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobodys_Fault Posted May 19, 2012 Share Posted May 19, 2012 Seriously still buzzing after that gig... Was madness!!! Also missed the mic after Paradise by an arms length!!! GuttedYou must've been near me because I wasn't that far away from the mic either.Incredible gig. One of the best I've ever been to. Axl was on top form. Voice was a bit shaky during TWAT (which he mentioned after the song "Well that was interesting... I sucked but you guys were great!") but Bumblefoot NAILED that outro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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