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First, I'm not bashing anyone's opinions. For what I've read, it's easy to conclude that TWAT is considered, by the majority of this forum, the best CD song. But why? Seriously, what's so amazing in this music? I've heard it so many times, and I feel very uncomfortable with a few things in the song when I listen to it. The biggest problem, for me, starts when Axl sings It was a long time with you / It was a long time with me / It'd be a long time for anyone / But looks like it's meant to be. It's a problem that I detected in many CD songs, but this part of this song is the best example: Axl just hasn't the heaviness naturally required to accompany the heavy instrumental sessions. He also lost that wildness he used to carry in his voice in the old days. So when I hear Axl singing with his clean, weak and strongly nasal voice in that part, the contrast that rises is too big to be ignored, imo. And in the end, when he repeatedly sings There was a time, I can't help to notice that he's struggling hard to reach a heaviness he doesn't have. I won't comment Buckethead's solo, that has those shreddings I don't like (for me, this whole guitar masturbation is more suited for heavy metal or something like that).

PS - I'm not saying that who likes or consider TWAT the best CD song is an ignorant bastard. Feel free to disagree with me. I'm really curious.

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There's nothing amazing about it. I think people praising it so much wants it to be great. They wants it to be a new Estranged. It really isn't. It's pure shit.

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First, I'm not bashing anyone's opinions. For what I've read, it's easy to conclude that TWAT is considered, by the majority of this forum, the best CD song. But why? Seriously, what's so amazing in this music?

I like it because I like it. It can't be explained in more detail because we lack a molecular understanding of the relationship between strings/patterns of notes and individual happiness hormone release.

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Axl singing with his clean, weak and strongly nasal voice

This is something I usually seem to be alone of hearing in this song. People on this forum is saying it's his strongest vocal performance ever. I thought people were trolling at first, but I've come to the conclusion that they're just deaf or something. What I'm quoting here is so true. His vocals really are terrible on this song.

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Axl singing with his clean, weak and strongly nasal voice

This is something I usually seem to be alone of hearing in this song. People on this forum is saying it's his strongest vocal performance ever. I thought people were trolling at first, but I've come to the conclusion that they're just deaf or something. What I'm quoting here is so true. His vocals really are terrible on this song.

I like the vocals. Especially during the verses and of course the insanely high parts during the ending. But I am not going to call you "deaf or something" for not liking them.

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Axl singing with his clean, weak and strongly nasal voice

This is something I usually seem to be alone of hearing in this song. People on this forum is saying it's his strongest vocal performance ever. I thought people were trolling at first, but I've come to the conclusion that they're just deaf or something. What I'm quoting here is so true. His vocals really are terrible on this song.

I like the vocals. Especially during the verses and of course the insanely high parts during the ending. But I am not going to call you "deaf or something" for not liking them.

Same here. I personally prefer Prostitute and Catcher most of the time. I must also have no hearing capabilities

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The biggest complaint I have is that it sounds like he's reading a lyric sheet in his hands when he sings :"If there's something I can make of this"

It's very easy to imagaine. You can basically hear it. No emotion there, he seems to be going through the motions.

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There is no song on CD that rocks harder than this. When I'm done with this I feel like I've been rocked too much, and that it should be the end of the CD. It's a guitar masterpiece with Axl singing like a madman over it. What's not to like?

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First, I'm not bashing anyone's opinions. For what I've read, it's easy to conclude that TWAT is considered, by the majority of this forum, the best CD song. But why? Seriously, what's so amazing in this music? I've heard it so many times, and I feel very uncomfortable with a few things in the song when I listen to it. The biggest problem, for me, starts when Axl sings It was a long time with you / It was a long time with me / It'd be a long time for anyone / But looks like it's meant to be. It's a problem that I detected in many CD songs, but this part of this song is the best example: Axl just hasn't the heaviness naturally required to accompany the heavy instrumental sessions. He also lost that wildness he used to carry in his voice in the old days. So when I hear Axl singing with his clean, weak and strongly nasal voice in that part, the contrast that rises is too big to be ignored, imo. And in the end, when he repeatedly sings There was a time, I can't help to notice that he's struggling hard to reach a heaviness he doesn't have. I won't comment Buckethead's solo, that has those shreddings I don't like (for me, this whole guitar masturbation is more suited for heavy metal or something like that).

PS - I'm not saying that who likes or consider TWAT the best CD song is an ignorant bastard. Feel free to disagree with me. I'm really curious.

mr. robin finck and buckethead is what's amazing in twat

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I like this song alot. Sure, it may not have Axl's strongest vocals ever, but still the lyrics and the singing get to me. There was a time when I would have done anything for my ex-girlfriend. Or so I felt once. I can relate to this song. It says how I felt once about someone. Great song.

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I like this song alot. Sure, it may not have Axl's strongest vocals ever, but still the lyrics and the singing get to me. There was a time when I would have done anything for my ex-girlfriend. Or so I felt once. I can relate to this song. It says how I felt once about someone. Great song.

Axl singing at the end of this song is some of his strongest vocals ever. In fact overall, the singing in this song shows why is one of the most versatile singers in music.

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But seriously, those fucking screams and that Buckethead solo.

To say the song as a whole features weak vocals is just...wow. The chorus thing is a valid complaint but, I mean, who knows if he WANTED to sound strong there? That contrast you speak of adds a sort of "taboo" feeling to the chorus for me and I don't dislike it.

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TWAT is like a movie in my mind. It reminds me of Gimme Shelter and You can't always get what you want.

Its' lyrics are certainly descriptive as if describing a movie or specific scenes. It's one of the few songs on Chinese Democracy that you can listen to and not have to think too hard to understand or even relate to the lyrics and it's certainly a welcome feature.

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both TWaT and Prostitute conjure up images of high class escorts but also offer some commentary about GNR situation. Like the it's been a long time for me a long time for you a long time foreveryone.

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I honestly don't get it with this song either. It's a big steaming pile of shit. The intro is embarrassing, sounds like the jungle book or something.

I put it down to this. NuGNR Axlbots always cling to something new everyweek. Whether it's the new guitarist this month, or a song. One of them says it then they all follow.

TWAT is rubbish. Complete filler.

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