James Bond Posted February 17, 2013 Author Share Posted February 17, 2013 I think it proved he was a credible Bond, but I think he established himself as a great Bond by the time TSWLM rolled around. Gilbert was a very appropriate director for Roger's lighter approach.I think Bond is just wise with the way they mix-up the formula. Bond changes with the times but always maintains the basics and the feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 He was great but I find Babara Bach overrated. Loved her on the boat. She should have been killed off. She came uselss anyway. Skyfall is Bond in the 21st Century. I think the next two are going to be a lot of fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 For Your Eyes Only is Moore redeeming film. It proves he was a great Bond. The film wasn't that great but he was awesome.I think the latest Die Hard movie proves why James Bond has lasted so long. They stook to the forumla.great point, Moore was great in FYEO. Plus, it has his single greatest line as Bond - "put your clothes on, I'll buy you an ice cream" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 He delivered that line flawlessly. Pokes fun at his age and we see that Bond doesn't screw jailbait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 He delivered that line flawlessly. Pokes fun at his age and we see that Bond doesn't screw jailbait.The little bit of a disgusted eye roll is what makes it so perfect Watched both Dalton films today, as good as always. I noticed you can see lots of nipples in the LTK title sequence in HD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 How did LTK look after the transfer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 How did LTK look after the transfer?Pretty good, one of the better HD transfers pre-Goldeneye IMO. Very natural transfer, no serious noise reduction but also not too grainy. The color scheme of LTK has always been one of the most bland though I think - there's just nothing vivid in it whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I've always had a problem with the cinematography of LTK. It looked cheap. I guess they were going for that Scarface look. It is one of my favorite Bond films though. Dalton proved his Bond to be nearly unstoppable. Talisa Soto was fucking sexy, especially the cabin scene. Cary Lowell was a great Bond girl, Sanchez is probably the greatest Bond villain since Scaramanga and I feel Silva has topped him.One reviewer of GoldenEye noted that Alec Trevelyan was a disappointing villain because as someone who sees himself as a superior 00 Agent to Bond his way of getting him was to shoot a lot of bullets and get into a brawl. Silva has anticipated not only Bond's but MI6's every move. He even sent a strike team to see how well fortified the house was. He proably didn't expect him to blow up the house though. In the end, he got M, not personally which he was robbed of but he indirectly killed her.Off track her, but LTK was great. Dalton was a very believable Bond. Tough, and most concinving with getting women. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Agreed on all points. The cinematography works for the style of the movie, but it is undeniably cheap. Sanchez and Scaramanga are 2 of the most underrated Bond villains of all, to me. Both are very sinister in their own ways, not a total-world-domination way like Blofeld, but it's like they're sinister on a personal level - and that really adds an aura of creepiness to the characters. I do think Sean Bean played Alec Travelyan well, it just wasn't a good villain. I wish Sean Bean had had a better role, just like I wish Christopher Walken and Grace Jones had starred in a film worthy of the two of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Sanchez and Scaramanga were very threatening. You actually fear for Bond's life. Alec could have been a better villain if he was written better. Agree with Walken and Jones, if fans ever had anything good to say about AVTK it is those two.Blofeld really depends on the actor, Telly Savalas blows everyone out of the water. Donald Plesance looked the most sinister but he was retarded. The guy from DAF looked like he was into drag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 One thing I really liked about Scaramanga and Sanchez is that they both respected Bond and had no personal animosity towards him (initially, of course). It made for an interesting dynamic. Even though Bond was tricking Sanchez into killing off some of his own men, Sanchez respected Bond's apparent honesty and willingness to help him out. Scaramanaga respected Bond as a marksman, even to the point where Andrea knew to send the bullet to Bond because he had talked so highly of him and she knew he'd be the only one who could take him down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris1989 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I hope we never see a world domination character in Bond again, it's a relic from the past. When Austin Powers is lampooning the idea you know it should be left dead and buried.As posted above, the personal level that Silva was working on was crucial to developing an intriguing storyline with nice twists and turns. When you just want to dominate the world, everybody becomes a faceless enemy in a stand alone film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I'll never understand how some people can think MWTGG and LTK are some of the weaker entries in the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 Bond taking on three or four guys in the gypsy's dressing room was brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris1989 Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 (edited) "Oh it's a beam that shoots from the sky" is a plot I am not keen on, it wasn't great in Diamonds, wasn't great in MWTGG and was especially bad when re-hashed in Die Another Day.The best bit about TMWTGG was Britt Ekland, who was probably my first Bond girl crush, thought she was stunning when I first saw her. Edited February 18, 2013 by Chris1989 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 I echo that. The Man With The Golden Gun was the first Moore film I ever saw and among the first Bond films I rented as a kid. I loved it and had a huge crush on Britt. Goodnight definitely fits in the "bimbo" category of Bond girls but hey, at least she's nice to look at. I also really like The Man With The Golden Gun. The goofy karate scene not withstanding, it's a fun film and probably my third favorite of Roger's behind Octopussy and Spy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I was more into Jane Seymour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 I think what really made DAF not the best Connery film was the fact it was located in Las Vegas. I see nothing appealing about Vegas and Bond films are always showing off locations but no matter how they attempt to show the postive side of Vegas it is just unappealing. The Bayou in Live And Let Die was more appealing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 You Only Live Twice is underrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 It is overrated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted February 18, 2013 Share Posted February 18, 2013 It is overratedIt's considered one of the lesser Connery films, I tend to love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Watched all the Brosnan films today. Jesus. Fucking. Christ. Goldeneye is good. But then starting with Tomorrow Never Dies you wonder how things can possibly get shittier...and then you remember that somehow they do. TND could've been decent if it wasn't for Elliot Carver, aka Evil Steve Jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 (edited) Watched all the Brosnan films today. Jesus. Fucking. Christ. Goldeneye is good. But then starting with Tomorrow Never Dies you wonder how things can possibly get shittier...and then you remember that somehow they do. TND could've been decent if it wasn't for Elliot Carver, aka Evil Steve Jobs.Yeah Brosnan probably got some of the shittiest scripts. Goldeneye is a great comeback for Bond and revived what was thought to be a dead, outdated franchise, but middle two feel like utterly generic and poor '90s action films with the Bond label. The World is Not Enough is in a strong contender for "Worst Bond Film". Die Another Day though reminds me of a 70s Moore film taken to an extreme.People hate on Brosnan, but a film is only as good as it's script. If all his films were on par with Goldeneye or better he'd probably be heavily splitting the vote for "favorite Bond" alongside Connery and Craig.Does anyone else kind of dislike Thunderball? It's a good film but it feels very slow paced.How do you guys feel Sean Bean and Sam Neil would've done as Bond? Both were under heavy consideration for the role in The Living Daylights. Edited February 19, 2013 by Vincent Vega Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 Only thing I don't like about Thunderball is the underwater battle...holy fuck, its boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 19, 2013 Share Posted February 19, 2013 I think the only reason people like GoldenEye so much was because of the video game. Die Another Day was so bad that even Roger Moore felt they went overboard and he did Moonraker. At least Moonraker was watchable.I think there's only so much blame can go to the writers. Purvis and Wade also did Casino Royale and Skyfall though they had help with Haggis and Logan the ideas were theirs. But I felt Brosnan was not playing Bond, just an Elvis impersonater Bond. Connery, Lazenby, Moore, Dalton and Craig made it all their own. Brosnan brought in "PAIN FACE" and that's about it. With the exception of Tomorrow Never Dies, he didn't look the part. I was hoping he was going to keep the long hair and beard for Die Another Day.I agree with Powerage, the underwater fight was boring but back in 1965, that was like watching Avatar. I really enjoyed the film, especially Claudine Auger.Sean Bean would have been interesting but Sam Neil has always creeped me out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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