James Bond Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 Rank the Bond themes?1. You Know My Name2. The Living Daylights3. Skyfall4. Thunderball5. Live and Let Die6. On Her Majesty's Secret Service7. Diamonds Are Forever8. Goldfinger9. A View To A Kill10. Nobody Does It Better11. Another Way To Die12. The World Is Not Enough13. For Your Eyes Only14. You Only Live Twice15. From Russia With Love16. Moonraker (the end credits version is better)17. Licence To Kill18. The Man With The Golden Gun19. GoldenEye20. Tomorrow Never Dies (Surrender should have been the main theme as intended)21. Die Another Day (take out Madonna and the annoying stutter vocals and the song is kind of cool)22. All Time High (the most boring Bond song)23. Never Say Never Again (perhaps the worst song I've ever heard)Probably something like that. I didn't rank the Bond theme because it's hard to really place it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Rank the Bond themes?1. You Know My Name2. The Living Daylights3. Skyfall4. Thunderball5. Live and Let Die6. On Her Majesty's Secret Service7. Diamonds Are Forever8. Goldfinger9. A View To A Kill10. Nobody Does It Better11. Another Way To Die12. The World Is Not Enough13. For Your Eyes Only14. You Only Live Twice15. From Russia With Love16. Moonraker (the end credits version is better)17. Licence To Kill18. The Man With The Golden Gun19. GoldenEye20. Tomorrow Never Dies (Surrender should have been the main theme as intended)21. Die Another Day (take out Madonna and the annoying stutter vocals and the song is kind of cool)22. All Time High (the most boring Bond song)23. Never Say Never Again (perhaps the worst song I've ever heard)Probably something like that. I didn't rank the Bond theme because it's hard to really place it.Interesting list, for sure.Currently on DAF in my run of Bond films in order. Haven't seen this one in years, and when watching it right after all the other Connery films - definitely my least favorite Connery film. The special effects suck. Really suck. I can't get over how terrible the animations look when the laser is firing on the submarine and missiles. It looks like really primitive CGI, even though it isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 I'm really all over the place on the themes. The list is basically a mix of the ones I enjoy listening to the most outside of watching the films mixed with the ones I feel best suited the films that they were a part of. You Know My Name definitely ranks at the top in both categories because the song rocks, and it provided the perfect thematic material for Craig's Bond in David Arnold's score.I felt that watching the films in order really changed my view on some of them in the same way. I thought You Only Live Twice, which I've never cared for that much anyways, felt very weak compared to Thunderball (my favorite Connery film) and On Her Majesty's Secret Service which it was sandwiched between. Then Diamonds felt especially underwhelming coming out of OHMSS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Roses Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I love GnR's live and let die, but i must say i hate the movie.Daniel Craig is great but Sean Connery's James Bond is timeless IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I'm really all over the place on the themes. The list is basically a mix of the ones I enjoy listening to the most outside of watching the films mixed with the ones I feel best suited the films that they were a part of. You Know My Name definitely ranks at the top in both categories because the song rocks, and it provided the perfect thematic material for Craig's Bond in David Arnold's score.I felt that watching the films in order really changed my view on some of them in the same way. I thought You Only Live Twice, which I've never cared for that much anyways, felt very weak compared to Thunderball (my favorite Connery film) and On Her Majesty's Secret Service which it was sandwiched between. Then Diamonds felt especially underwhelming coming out of OHMSS.I must say, I actually enjoyed YOLT more seeing it in sequence, despite being sandwiched between Thunderball and OHMSS. This was the first time I've even watched the Blofeld trilogy in order, and I think YOLT was a good way to officially introduce Blofeld. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 (edited) Best to worse:On Her Majesty's Secret Service (Barry's instrumental)From Russia With LoveYou Only Live TwiceGoldfingerThunderballGoldeneyeDiamonds Are ForeverJames Bond ThemeWe Have All the Time in the World (OHMSS)Nobody Does it BetterMr Kiss Kiss Bang Bang (unreleased Thunderball theme)Tomorrow Never DiesAll Time HighThe World is not EnoughSkyfallMoonrakerYou Know My Name (Casino Royale)A View to a KillLive And Let DieThe Living DaylightsLicence To KillFor Your Eyes OnlyThe Man with the Golden GunAnother Way to Die (QOS)Die Another Day Edited February 11, 2013 by DieselDaisy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 I'm really all over the place on the themes. The list is basically a mix of the ones I enjoy listening to the most outside of watching the films mixed with the ones I feel best suited the films that they were a part of. You Know My Name definitely ranks at the top in both categories because the song rocks, and it provided the perfect thematic material for Craig's Bond in David Arnold's score.I felt that watching the films in order really changed my view on some of them in the same way. I thought You Only Live Twice, which I've never cared for that much anyways, felt very weak compared to Thunderball (my favorite Connery film) and On Her Majesty's Secret Service which it was sandwiched between. Then Diamonds felt especially underwhelming coming out of OHMSS.I must say, I actually enjoyed YOLT more seeing it in sequence, despite being sandwiched between Thunderball and OHMSS. This was the first time I've even watched the Blofeld trilogy in order, and I think YOLT was a good way to officially introduce Blofeld.Well, technically that's still the wrong order. I just thought the film as a whole felt really underwhelming between two of the greats, but then I'm biased anyways because that and Diamonds have always been among my least favorites in the franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Basiicully Eon made a complete mess of the Blofeld trilogy. The book order goes, Thunderball, OHMSS, YOLT. They should have filmed OHMSS first as YOLT is all about Bond getting revenge for Tracey's death (in OHMSS). Blofeld is meant fo die in YOLT you see. But then for some odd reason they decided to release YOLT first - a totally odd decision if they ever possessed the intention of filming OHMSS - and then Dahl - who was supposed to be Fleming's friend - made a dogs-dinner of the screenplay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 The weird thing about it is it's not like they had to do You Only Live Twice next. There were still other novels to choose from.OHMSS was the plan after Goldfinger, but then they struck that deal with Kevin McClory to do Thunderball which pushed OHMSS aside. Then after Thunderball they couldn't work out a winter schedule for filming and OHMSS got pushed back again. Then for whatever reason they decided to "skip it" and film You Only Live Twice. They probably should have just pulled a Goldfinger and made a standalone film without the SPECTRE story ties and saved Twice for when they actually got OHMSS made.The biggest crime of the film series not following the novels is definitely not having filmed the Blofeld trilogy in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted February 11, 2013 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I'm really all over the place on the themes. The list is basically a mix of the ones I enjoy listening to the most outside of watching the films mixed with the ones I feel best suited the films that they were a part of. You Know My Name definitely ranks at the top in both categories because the song rocks, and it provided the perfect thematic material for Craig's Bond in David Arnold's score.I felt that watching the films in order really changed my view on some of them in the same way. I thought You Only Live Twice, which I've never cared for that much anyways, felt very weak compared to Thunderball (my favorite Connery film) and On Her Majesty's Secret Service which it was sandwiched between. Then Diamonds felt especially underwhelming coming out of OHMSS.I must say, I actually enjoyed YOLT more seeing it in sequence, despite being sandwiched between Thunderball and OHMSS. This was the first time I've even watched the Blofeld trilogy in order, and I think YOLT was a good way to officially introduce Blofeld.Well, technically that's still the wrong order. I just thought the film as a whole felt really underwhelming between two of the greats, but then I'm biased anyways because that and Diamonds have always been among my least favorites in the franchise.Fuck off, you know I've read the books Still, it's the first time I'd seen the film adaptation of the Blofeld trilogy in order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share Posted February 11, 2013 That's better. Actually, the same is true for me when I did my Bond 50 marathon leading up to Skyfall. I think I have followed OHMSS with Diamonds in the past to kind of simulate a proper revenge story, but I don't think I've ever done the whole thing. Part of the fun was that SPECTRE starts right away in Dr. No so you've got a whole story arc carrying over until Diamonds, with the exception of Goldfinger where there's only a minor reference to the previous two films. Up until then, the continuity was actually pretty decent in the series save for Blofeld and Bond's second "first" meeting in OHMSS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Currently watching Live And Let Die. Definitely overrated. Not looking forward to 6 more Moore films ahead of me... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Brosnan was quoted as saying all the Bonds will be at the Oscar...except one. Any guesses?Jk. Everyone knows it's Connery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Currently watching Live And Let Die. Definitely overrated. Not looking forward to 6 more Moore films ahead of me... The Man with the Golden Gun wasn't that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Currently watching Live And Let Die. Definitely overrated. Not looking forward to 6 more Moore films ahead of me... The Man with the Golden Gun wasn't that bad.Agreed, in my top 3 Moore films. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 The weird thing about it is it's not like they had to do You Only Live Twice next. There were still other novels to choose from.OHMSS was the plan after Goldfinger, but then they struck that deal with Kevin McClory to do Thunderball which pushed OHMSS aside. Then after Thunderball they couldn't work out a winter schedule for filming and OHMSS got pushed back again. Then for whatever reason they decided to "skip it" and film You Only Live Twice. They probably should have just pulled a Goldfinger and made a standalone film without the SPECTRE story ties and saved Twice for when they actually got OHMSS made.The biggest crime of the film series not following the novels is definitely not having filmed the Blofeld trilogy in order.My own thoughts exactly. It was a very odd decision. If they had read the books, it is clear that they would be digging a hole for themselves if they filmed OHMSS first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Good thing the films had no real contunity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 (edited) Really for me, Connery is THE essential Bond, Moore's first couple of films are on par with Connery's, Brosnan gets a bad rap but he did revive the series after most figured it was dead, a relic of the Cold War era, no longer relevant.Like Brosnan or not, Goldeneye brought the Bond series into the modern era, modernized his character enough to remain relevant while not borrowing from other franchises *cough Craig cough*, and showed the world that James Bond could still exist in the post USSR, politically correct modern age. Hate Brosnan or not, but I don't think James Bond would still exist today if his films didn't prove Bond was still a force to be reckoned with. Brosnan brought Bond out of the unintentional self parody of the latter Moore years and the bleak and generally uninspiring Dalton years.Goldeneye is a great film the only problem with Brosnan is they had a capable guy who they handled shitty scripts. Brosnan was a great Bond imo, but Goldeneye is the only good Bond film he was in.Lazenby was just for me a stand in.Dalton and Craig are pretty much the same. Tone wise, Craig's films are just a 2010s update of Dalton's. And I never liked the ultra realistic, character driven portrayals of either. I prefer a more balanced approach.Off note but I do wonder if Sean Bean would've made a good James Bond. Same goes for Sam Neil. Edited February 12, 2013 by Vincent Vega Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselDaisy Posted February 12, 2013 Share Posted February 12, 2013 Good thing the films had no real contunity.But this is why - here at least. Thing is, when they did get round to filming OHMSS they did a page-by-page gritty recreation of Fleming - there is no doubt that OHMSS is still the most faithfull adaptation (and I am including Casino Royale here). It is possible to imagine a faith adaptation of YOLT, coming after, OHMSS. It is a real shame. A real missed opportunity. And this is, sort of where the series went wrong when you think about it: the period, YOLT-DAF. It didn't help that they were switching actors of course (Connery, Lazenby, Connery). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Who's got their copy of Skyfall?I wouldn't mind if Nolan directed Bond 24. He and Mendes are the only real choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 Mine should be in by Friday, which is fine because I wouldn't have a chance to watch it before the weekend anyways. If it's not, then next week is fine too since I'll be off for reading week.I'd welcome a Nolan directed Bond film, but at this point I'll be really surprised if it's not Mendes. With Skyfall's money, regardless of what Michael and Barbara decide, I imagine the studio will push them to get as much of the same crew on board for Bond 24 as possible. So far I think only Dennis Gassner, the production designer, has confirmed that he'll return, and John Logan for the screenplay. Mendes said he'd be willing to do another, so he's definitely in there, and Barbara was enthusiastic about him from the get go.I'd like to see him do Bond 25 as well. Have the final three Craig films form a trilogy all directed by Mendes and with the tone of Skyfall. Then give a new director the chair when it's time to recast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zint Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Picked it up with a 5 dollar old dvd trade in offer, which knocked 5 bucks off.Watched it last night, enjoyed even more than the first time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris1989 Posted February 13, 2013 Share Posted February 13, 2013 Anybody got a list of Easter Egg type things that are in the movie but you may not notice until the 4th or 5th time watching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted February 13, 2013 Author Share Posted February 13, 2013 The painting in M/Mallory's office at the end is of the "old" MI6 building. Never noticed it until I saw a picture of the set in the Bond on Set book.Not sure of any others offhand, other than the more obvious homages to past Bond films. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted February 14, 2013 Share Posted February 14, 2013 Just finished watching The Spy Who Loved Me on Blu Ray. Honestly, I think this one is the most average entry in the series. Not good, not bad. Not fast-paced, not slow. Not a great Bond girl, not a weak Bond girl. Though I will say I thin Stromberg is one of the most un-menacing villains to date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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