Guest NewGNRnOldGNR Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Yes, 2010 depicted a ballsy new line-up with attitude and aspiration. Bumblefoot's personal life, particularly the car accident which spiralled him into an intensely depressive place, as well as his artistic impulse to make music, Tommy's evident issues with road life in terms of resisting the alcohols on offer, and DJ's preoccupation with his own self-promotion - coupled with Axl's failure to strike when the iron was hot and have them in a studio collectively; has drained that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trqster Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 So what you & lolcano are sayin is that all the live versions of NR of UYI lineup era (all with rasp) are crap? I'm saying that I don't particularly like Axl's vocals on the studio version. The instrumentation and production is top-notch, including Slash's playing, but I think Axl's cleaner vocals suit the song more.Gotta respect your opinion being put that way. IMO NR is one of the songs that the lack of rasp does the least of harm to the original song, being YCBM the exact opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblecool Posted January 18, 2013 Author Share Posted January 18, 2013 Listening while studying, awesome vocals and show! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-p-d-a Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Raspy vocals are shit on November Rain, studio version included.i agree. I prefer a clean voice on NR or SCOM. The Live Era version of SCOM sounds so shit.just a example.. I love the clean voice !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Raspy vocals are shit on November Rain, studio version included.i agree. I prefer a clean voice on NR or SCOM. The Live Era version of SCOM sounds so shit.just a example.. I love the clean voice !!! I've never heard a live SCOM by Axl that I've liked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Raspy vocals are shit on November Rain, studio version included.i agree. I prefer a clean voice on NR or SCOM. The Live Era version of SCOM sounds so shit.just a example.. I love the clean voice !!! I've never heard a live SCOM by Axl that I've liked.There's a video from either the first or second Vegas show, I think it's the first, where he sings SCOM way better than usual. Mostly I agree though - too much rasp on the UYI tour, and 2001-now he's sorta all over the place but never really gets to where he's supposed to be vocally. 87-88 was the only time he did SCOM really well live. The Sail Away Sweet Sister intro is and always will be amazing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iftheworld Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) REQUEST:There's this absolutely amazing November Rain from 2010. I don't know where it was, but it sounded like it was from the 90s. Anyone know of it? Perfect except the outro Edited January 19, 2013 by iftheworld Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamBruceRoseJr Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 (edited) Axl looked and sounded awesome in 2006, 2009 & 2010 just average in 2007 & 2011 completely wasted in 2001, 2002 & 2012 Edited January 19, 2013 by WilliamBruceRoseJr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eu4ic Posted January 19, 2013 Share Posted January 19, 2013 There's a lil gig they did in Rio '01 where Axl most certainly doesnt sound 'completely wasted'. Far from it. WTTJ alone was worth the wait. Fuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppetiteForGnR Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 great times...!!! He was so powerfull and had an extreme control over his voice we really havent seen sience the 80¨s.great times...!!! He was so powerfull and had an extreme control over his voice we really havent seen sience the 80¨s.Yes! While I'm watching performances from mid-2010, I cannot help but be impressed by both his power and control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppetiteForGnR Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Parts of Canada 2010 were great, but for me he peaked mid-2010 with such shows as Prague, Arnhem, London, Bucharest. Seemed a bit weaker at Abu Dhabi by the end of the year.London 2010 was something special, but Bucharest 2010 is such a gem for me. I can watch utube vids from that gig as a dvd, pure quality.Lots of truth here. Personally i'd say that Lille and Arnhem are better vocally than even London, and better quality recordings. Arnhem is wonderful as the vocal is so high in the mix and every single song is easily in the top 3 or 5 performances of that song vocally in the new era. Amazing Sorry, TIL, Better, Madagascar. I particularly love Sorry as it isn't swamped in effects and backing vocals so when he sings 'just shutup and sing...' you can just hear him holding the note for ages, no echo or backing tracks.I'm not aware of a boot of Bucharest. Are you talking just about Youtube videos?The user 'grassu075' uploaded most of the Bucharest show in 1080p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Rose Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Thank you Appetite! That's awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblecool Posted January 20, 2013 Author Share Posted January 20, 2013 This is from tokyo 2009, great nightrain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trqster Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 Raspy vocals are shit on November Rain, studio version included.i agree. I prefer a clean voice on NR or SCOM. The Live Era version of SCOM sounds so shit.just a example.. I love the clean voice !!! I've never heard a live SCOM by Axl that I've liked.There's a video from either the first or second Vegas show, I think it's the first, where he sings SCOM way better than usual. Mostly I agree though - too much rasp on the UYI tour, and 2001-now he's sorta all over the place but never really gets to where he's supposed to be vocally. 87-88 was the only time he did SCOM really well live. The Sail Away Sweet Sister intro is and always will be amazing though.I think that this SCOM from 2006 has the perfect 'dose' of rasp to it - imo much better than UYI era vocals (too much rasp): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 ^ Listen to that rasp, goddamn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblecool Posted January 21, 2013 Author Share Posted January 21, 2013 damn, great rasp on that SCOMThis Down on the farm is awesome too : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trqster Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Down on the Farm rules indeed and Axl should bring it back to the shows as it favours his current "clean" vocals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted January 21, 2013 Share Posted January 21, 2013 Down on the Farm rules indeed and Axl should bring it back to the shows as it favours his current "clean" vocals.Should replace one of the current covers, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanPetterBastøe Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 What about this YCBM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie Mercury's Ghost Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 My favorite WTTJ from 2010: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 It's quite sad that this is the best thread in Discussion and News by some significant margin at the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 after this thread i'm starting to doubt that theory of cameras not not being able to record rasp that some nice people here actually believe in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreCC Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 Axl's best year since 1993! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trqster Posted January 29, 2013 Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) after this thread i'm starting to doubt that theory of cameras not not being able to record rasp that some nice people here actually believe in.Yep, It's a really laughable theory...What amazes me most is that Axl obviously knowing he was going through a great vocals period, why did he not decide to record a single fucking proshot show!? Then all the sudden we're in 2012 and his voice is shot and shitty more often than not and he finally decides to do it. Go figure Axl... Edited January 29, 2013 by trqster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblecool Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 Axl's best year since 1993!way better than 93. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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