rumandraisin Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 On wikipedia it says Axl redubbed his vocals on 12 songs on Live Era, which ones are they?I gather Estranged is on of them after the other thread atm, and Sweet Child probably is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprite Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 My michelle, Used to love her, rocket queen, november rain, nighttrain, wttj, just to name a few more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real McCoy Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Mr. Brownstone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guns n' Swedes Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 It's very easy to hear which ones that are dubbed. He basically has his best 2006 voice on those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
willl Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 See IndiannaRose's very detailed post here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrain86 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 The ones where he re recorded his vocals stand out like a sore thumb and are very easily picked up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinaski Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 The ones where he re recorded his vocals stand out like a sore thumb and are very easily picked up.Agreed. It's generally almost irritatingly obvious but then I guess most people who bought that record aren't as familiar with the changes year after year in Axl's delivery. They just think of him as that guy with the high voice so any high voice sounds about right. I like the clean voice on the end of Rocket Queen on Live Era a lot.I haven't listened to it in years but from memory there's one point in Used To Love Her after one of the solos where he comes back in and in his new voice goes I used to LOVE HER and it really jars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapitch_77 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Never liked Live Era for that reason. When I bought it I though something was weird with the songs, they didn't sound quite right... When I heard Axl re-recorded the vocals I understood why...I don't understand why he did this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimb0 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Axl did it out of his perfectionism. I'm just surprised he did it without editing for a decade. While I do enjoy imagining what Axl could have done live when he re-recorded those vocals for a true collection you just gotta' go to the bootlegs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCalifornia Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 It's funny that Live Era could have been better without the re-done vocals and also some slash's re-done parts....If you check the bootlegs for the original versions, you can see that his voice is in perfect condition...Don't understand why he did it, especially since his voice when he did re-record wasn't in the shape that it was in 1990-1992... it was already kinda micky mouse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amir Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 See IndiannaRose's very detailed post here The only point of contention I have with IndiannaRose's post is Estranged. To me, it's obvious the WHOLE song was re-dubbed; from the first word it's clear they're his '99 vocals, and you can match it up with the Live from Tokyo vid the track is supposed to be from and hear him stop for breath in the actual live performance at certain points.To me Don't Cry is about the only one which isn't butchered, though I quite like the WTTJ too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I think I'm the only one who heard Robin Finck backing vocals in Mr. Brownstone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaida Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 This might explain why the 02 gig is taking so long to release.. Axl's re dubbing it *ALL* - vocals, drums, guitars, the whole damn thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimb0 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 This might explain why the 02 gig is taking so long to release.. Axl's re dubbing it *ALL* - vocals, drums, guitars, the whole damn thing!Not a bad Idea. Dub in Dublin 02 from 2010 Perfect Show Vocally Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volcano62 Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I don't see the big deal about the re-recorded vocals and guitars. Didn't Kiss make a whole live album like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 See IndiannaRose's very detailed post here The only point of contention I have with IndiannaRose's post is Estranged. To me, it's obvious the WHOLE song was re-dubbed; from the first word it's clear they're his '99 vocals, and you can match it up with the Live from Tokyo vid the track is supposed to be from and hear him stop for breath in the actual live performance at certain points.To me Don't Cry is about the only one which isn't butchered, though I quite like the WTTJ too.Later in the thread I corrected him on a few things, including Estranged. He deserves massive credit for putting that initial list together though.I don't see the big deal about the re-recorded vocals and guitars. Didn't Kiss make a whole live album like this?Yes, it's standard practice for live releases. Here it just stands out more because '99 Axl sounded different than '91-'92 Axl and so the change is more obvious, especially in songs where he only overdubbed parts of the vocals and left others alone. Then you can hear the big change between his vocals. For stuff like KISS Alive it would have been polished/fixed around the same time. Still, I like a lot of Live Era. Even though Nightrain was re-recorded, it's one of Axl's best vocal takes of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I hate Live Era. I think the re-recorded vocals sounds quite bad. They take away from the song. Everything else sounds live and then Axl sings and it's so obvious it not really him live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guns n' Swedes Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I loved the re-recorded vocals and I think they sound much better than the 92 live voice. Nowadays I think he's much better live on many parts of songs compared to how he sounded in the 90's. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I loved the re-recorded vocals and I think they sound much better than the 92 live voice. Nowadays I think he's much better live on many parts of songs compared to how he sounded in the 90's.you sir, are crazy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaida Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) I liked Live Era, it was in effect the finnal GN'R album. Nightrain is rocking to the extreme. Edited January 18, 2013 by vaida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guns n' Swedes Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 I loved the re-recorded vocals and I think they sound much better than the 92 live voice. Nowadays I think he's much better live on many parts of songs compared to how he sounded in the 90's.you sir, are crazy.Isn't it fair to say that he has a better scream nowadays, compared to the 90's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nosaj Thing Posted January 20, 2013 Share Posted January 20, 2013 I loved the re-recorded vocals and I think they sound much better than the 92 live voice. Nowadays I think he's much better live on many parts of songs compared to how he sounded in the 90's.you sir, are crazy.Isn't it fair to say that he has a better scream nowadays, compared to the 90's? :rofl-lol: :rofl-lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudolf1978 Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 i just relistened to live era and fuck i didnt know the history about of the redubbed and i saw the info in internet,but after listening some songs i thought wtf he sound a bit of mickey, didnt i remember how he sound in some parts of 90s?What a fucking asshole! thats why i dindt like live era,i though the songs sounded weird and slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan Rose Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 It's absolutely fucking disgusting and I wish the press had picked up on it at the time and tore him to pieces for it. People are saying 'it's standard practice.' No it's NOT standard practice to re-record nearly all the vocals for an album and call it 'Live.'And how ironic that he should make such a massive deal out of Flea performing to a pre-recorded backing track at the Superbowl, a really forgiveable shortcut, when he himself tried to pass off a studio album with masses of musical and vocal overdubs as live. I wish i'd remembered at the time because he deserved to be bombarded with thousands of #FakeEra tweets for that shit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 I can understand people being pissed that the majority of tracks aren't live, but it doesn't prevent it from being a great record, IMO.Rocket Queen is better than the studio version. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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