Sigh Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Apparently you don't know ALL the defintions of the word "self-righteous". Here's the one I used:Main Entry: selfrigh·teousPronunciation: \-ˈrī-chəs\Function: adjectiveDate: circa 1680: convinced of one's own righteousness especially in contrast with the actions and beliefs of others.By the way, stating your opinion as "objective truth" makes you seem silly and self-righteous (as by the above definition).AliDoes claiming that I am self-righteous make you self-righteous, by your definition? It certainly appears to. Do you not see how silly that argument was in the first place? Do we need to have a conversation about "objective truth"? Or can you simply admit that the out of tune, out of breath falsetto sounds terrible compared to any of the videos I have posted (and will continue to post, if necessary)?NOT TO BE AN ASSHOLE...but ummm...have you ever watched this show? by the second half of the show Axl has completely thrown his voice out and barely makes it through. Fast forward to paradise and anyone can see why Axl sings the way he does today. He grew up, learned how to control his voice and is a much more consistent singer today then he was in any period of the original band.I just listened to Rose sing Perfect Crime at one hour and thirty-seven minutes into the show.You were saying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlrosefan1 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) Apparently you don't know ALL the defintions of the word "self-righteous". Here's the one I used:Main Entry: selfrigh·teousPronunciation: \-ˈrī-chəs\Function: adjectiveDate: circa 1680: convinced of one's own righteousness especially in contrast with the actions and beliefs of others.By the way, stating your opinion as "objective truth" makes you seem silly and self-righteous (as by the above definition).AliDoes claiming that I am self-righteous make you self-righteous, by your definition? It certainly appears to. Do you not see how silly that argument was in the first place? Do we need to have a conversation about "objective truth"? Or can you simply admit that the out of tune, out of breath falsetto sounds terrible compared to any of the videos I have posted (and will continue to post, if necessary)?NOT TO BE AN ASSHOLE...but ummm...have you ever watched this show? by the second half of the show Axl has completely thrown his voice out and barely makes it through. Fast forward to paradise and anyone can see why Axl sings the way he does today. He grew up, learned how to control his voice and is a much more consistent singer today then he was in any period of the original band.I don't know man...he was pretty damn consistent pre-UYI world tour. It was the later part of the tour and post UYI tour when it got inconsistent. And even 2006 he was pretty damn consistent. 2010-2012 he has been incredibly inconsistent. Edited March 10, 2013 by axlrosefan1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millions Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) For fuck's sake.You pair are ruining this thread with your petty semantics. This is a thread about the new tour. Take your shitty little weasel argument onto private messaging so the rest of us don't have to endure your pathetic bickering. And to the guy selectively choosing videos from 25 years ago to prove your point - this proves nothing. Of course you can find good vocal performances from the hundreds of options if you are selective enough. We could do the same now. Were you at the concert last night? So why do you give a shit? Edited March 10, 2013 by highvoltage No need for the insult.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigh Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 And, once again, when you resort to such extreme examples in your analogies, you reveal the weakness of your argument.AliThose analogies actually show the strength of my argument. Please don't accuse me of being self-righteous for posting that.They show the strength of my argument because they crystallize how objective truths cannot be denied by those of you who wallow in the land of the supposed subjective. Sure, you can find someone who prefers Plan 9 From Outer Space. That doesn't change the objective truth that The Godfather is the better film. I realize that apologists often try to make the work of an artist as somehow just a matter of preference, but my extremes only show the silliness of such arguments. It isn't all subjective. Art (music, film, etc.) can be objectively measured. Is The Godfather better than The Godfather Part II? That's subjective. That's an opinion. But both of them are far superior to The Godfather Part III. That's not subjective. That's just a statement of fact. What is that, six and a half years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jthunders13 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Apparently you don't know ALL the defintions of the word "self-righteous". Here's the one I used:Main Entry: selfrigh·teousPronunciation: \-ˈrī-chəs\Function: adjectiveDate: circa 1680: convinced of one's own righteousness especially in contrast with the actions and beliefs of others.By the way, stating your opinion as "objective truth" makes you seem silly and self-righteous (as by the above definition).AliDoes claiming that I am self-righteous make you self-righteous, by your definition? It certainly appears to. Do you not see how silly that argument was in the first place? Do we need to have a conversation about "objective truth"? Or can you simply admit that the out of tune, out of breath falsetto sounds terrible compared to any of the videos I have posted (and will continue to post, if necessary)?NOT TO BE AN ASSHOLE...but ummm...have you ever watched this show? by the second half of the show Axl has completely thrown his voice out and barely makes it through. Fast forward to paradise and anyone can see why Axl sings the way he does today. He grew up, learned how to control his voice and is a much more consistent singer today then he was in any period of the original band.I just listened to Rose sing Perfect Crime at one hour and thirty-seven minutes into the show.You were saying?The whole show...its a three hour show...listen to the last hour...i admit some of the illusion stuff was great but dont forget how many shows got cancelled because of Axl's voice problems...the never happens now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highvoltage Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Can we keep this discussion focused on last night's show please? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimb0 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Yes axl was amazing at 45 years old He's pretty decent at 51... When he wants to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeez Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Say whatever you want about Ashba, but I think it's pretty great that he does this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) He's pretty decent at 51... When he wants to be.de·cent /ˈdēsənt/ AdjectiveConforming with generally accepted standards of respectable or moral behaviorNope. Edited March 10, 2013 by bacardimayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yibbida Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Say whatever you want about Ashba, but I think it's pretty great that he does this:And stuff like this;I had fun at the show last night, not that this is the right thread for discussing the actual gig that people went to.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThinkAboutYou Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 The show was a hell of a lot of fun considering I hardly know anyone from Perth And Axl was having a blast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gunns Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrain86 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) I'm trying to think of a way to describe this picture, but I've got nothing.I want him to roll out onto the stage on it. He could duct tape his mic to it then he could be still and focus on his singing but also be moving around at the same time! Edited March 10, 2013 by nightrain86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Diet Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 That was fantastic - my favorite SCOM from the last few years was from Paris/Bercy '06/'07 when he wrapped the French tricolor around his shoulders. But, this sounded really, really good - both Axl's vocals and the band were top notch. You lucky Aussies >Sounded fuckn' great to me. Voice was full and strong enough to carry notes, big crowd, tight band. Fuck the Haters. They clearly don't know what they are talking about. It's just nonsensical dribbling of hate from the usual bitches here stuck on Axl-hating autopilot. +1Lol yeah, some of the usual suspects sound so ridiculous when they're trying that hard.haters?I'd say people who have got ears...this is pure mickey, no energy there....Preference is always subjective, never objective, and as such, always a matter of opinion.AliDo you really prefer Axl's current voice?if your answer is yes, you are deaf....And, once again, when you resort to such extreme examples in your analogies, you reveal the weakness of your argument.Aliagreed, but you kissing Axl's ass even when he doesn't deserve it...So your "arguments" are invalid piece of... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ragnar Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) He sounded decent not great but not horrible either don`t exaggarate everything for fuck`s sake Edited March 10, 2013 by Dark Knight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iftheworld Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 He sounds amazing to me. Haters are just kids stuck in 91. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimitrisaxl Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 He sounded decent not great but not horrible either don`t exaggarate everything for fuck`s sakeThis sums it up perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 this is pure mickey, no energy there....This is an important point. Mickey doesn't just sound bad, it also comes across as lazy and apathetic. Even if it's not lazy, that's how it sounds compared to the power of the rasp.Axl lacks PASSION. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Diet Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 (edited) He sounds amazing to me. Haters are just kids stuck in 91.He sounds like Mickey Mouse to me. Nutswingers are just retarded kids whom discover GNR in the past 2 or 3 years... Edited March 10, 2013 by Crash Diet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapoink Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Youtube doesn't do justis to gnr ... I have been to a lot of gnr concerts not all where great but most of them where awesome but when i looked those concerts back on youtube most of the times it was like o my god that sounds terrible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDemocracyRose Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 A good version of NR... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batman007 Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 Not a bad start! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glync Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 The show was a hell of a lot of fun considering I hardly know anyone from PerthAnd Axl was having a blastThats coz you met us bro.....plus we let u keep bumbles guitar pick ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kapoink Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 That was awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PirateChick Posted March 10, 2013 Share Posted March 10, 2013 looking amazing!!!wow he looks great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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