The Night Slash Went to Axl's House

[ITG]

I wouldn't put it past Slash to badmouth Duff or Matt, he badmouthed Izzy and Axl, before backtracking, retracting, etc. He definitely wasn't getting on with Scott. The part which makes me think that, if not entirely bullshit, the story is exaggerated, is the whole "war" thing. That's Axl's thinking, doubt Slash ever viewed it as a "war".

When did he badmouth Izzy and the backtrack or retract his statements?

[Kapitch_77]

When Scott Weiland responded to Axl, why did he say: How dare you call our bass player 'spineless?'

When the guys in VR spoke about this subject what did they think? Scott seemed to think it came from Axl and not Slash too. Did Slash say it was false and that it was Axl's words and not his? Did Duff thought the same as Scott and believes it comes from Axl too? That's gossip, It shouldn't matter but anyways...

[Kapitch_77]

And another thing that makes me think the whole thing is bullshit is this quote from the response:

It would have been Axl’s preference to resolve disputes with Slash and Duff in private. The courthouse is not his choice of forum.

Yeah right...

[Amir]

I wouldn't put it past Slash to badmouth Duff or Matt, he badmouthed Izzy and Axl, before backtracking, retracting, etc. He definitely wasn't getting on with Scott. The part which makes me think that, if not entirely bullshit, the story is exaggerated, is the whole "war" thing. That's Axl's thinking, doubt Slash ever viewed it as a "war".

When did he badmouth Izzy and the backtrack or retract his statements?

As soon as they hired Gilby, he kept saying how Gilby was a much better guitar player. Years later, he'd say that Izzy was a great writing partner again (which he was). They're obviously friends now since Izzy played on the Slash album in 2010.

[AndreCC]

it would be cool to hear from Slash directly a little bit more about this episode and the Vegas thing. Somehow i felt he really didn't give much detail in his book.

[Kapitch_77]

it would be cool to hear from Slash directly a little bit more about this episode and the Vegas thing. Somehow i felt he really didn't give much detail in his book.

And Duff doesn't talk about it at all in his book.

[AndreCC]

Haven't read Duff's book. Is it worth buying?

[Amir]

I still need to read Duff's book, dad got me a copy a few weeks ago. I flicked through and found a bit more about the London 2010 Axl incident, that was really cool. Went to a reading he did of it at The Garage in London before Christmas. Good stuff, he also played a few GNR songs (Patience was best).

Edited September 5, 2013 by Amir

[Kapitch_77]

Haven't read Duff's book. Is it worth buying?

Yes it's a good read. I recommand it.

[GeetarMikey]

it would be cool to hear from Slash directly a little bit more about this episode and the Vegas thing. Somehow i felt he really didn't give much detail in his book.

Probably because it was a bit of an embarrassing thing for him?

Good on him for having a try though, shame they didn't have at least a bit of a talk.

[Russel Nash]

Haven't read Duff's book. Is it worth buying?

Yes it's a good read. I recommand it.

Duff's book is better than Slash's. Good read.

[EvH]

That would made a great "slasher" (no pun intended. Well, not really) movie title.Somebody should made an old school poster for that.

[cooker]

How can this thread continue? There has been no new information about this encounter.

[Russel Nash]

it would be cool to hear from Slash directly a little bit more about this episode and the Vegas thing. Somehow i felt he really didn't give much detail in his book.

Probably because it was a bit of an embarrassing thing for him?

Good on him for having a try though, shame they didn't have at least a bit of a talk.

We can send them 5 questions, maybe he'll answer them.

[Riddick Bowe]

Ok girls look here:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/slash-axl-rose-hates-my-guts-20120402

he admit it himself

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4189220.stm arrogance and ego

http://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/2004/02/17/391094.html (He tells the reporter that the last thing he wants is an Axl type in hes new band and how painful it was to deal with axl)

http://www.vg.no/musikk/artikkel.php?artid=239080 -Axl takes the band name down the toilet, Axls shows are bad, Axl wanted to make a techno band( i think everybody knows that Oh my god and Shacklers revenge has nothing to do with techno).

- He has said that Axl in hes own eyes was a superstar as the public thaught he were. Axl destroyded the band since being late on stage, axl used all the money in GNR(mention above in the VG article, and the interview he gave when he left GNR when the november rain Oklahoma clip is being used, couldt find it right now but u know what i mean.

This was just a little bit, and Slash has admitted for a long time he has been bitter and badmouthed Axl. END OF STORY

[dalsh327]

The story of Slash badmouthing the rest of Velvet Revolver to Beta falls apart if you think about the other musicians themselves. Duff is spineless? In the past 17 years I've seen him with Neurotic Boy Outsiders (later Neurotic Outsiders), the reunited Ten Minute Warning, a one-off as part of The Presidents of the United States of America, and Loaded (opening for GNR in Seattle). He's also an author and journalist, and earned his college degree late in life. The guy is a go-getter. He makes opportunities for himself. In person he's very friendly and grounded.

I don't buy it.

I got the impression Duff didn't really take sides when Axl and Slash fell out, either. Duff was the one that came across as being excited about Axl's "industrial" direction. I think as someone who's been in 15 bands, he's way more open minded about what Axl wanted to do than Izzy, Matt, or Slash were. I guess that makes him an ass kisser, even though most people would call that "being a professional". It wasn't until 04 until he spent time with Slash again, almost a decade later, and all Slash seemed to think about was a new major label deal,who cares if Scott's a trainwreck. Duff saw it as bunch of rehab guys doing music together, but he didn't know what it was like to be around Scott every day.

Scott and Mary Weiland's books give their side on VR and how Scott was talked into it.

I think Duff and Izzy will write songs with Axl and Slash, and that's as close to getting the old gang back as we'll get. I don't see why Kings of Chaos couldn't get some songs with Kushner helping out as well as GNR. It's just farming out songs and working with people they've worked with for years, it's not a damn reunion, it's just songs that would be great to hear either way.

[cooker]

People say things they may not neccessarily mean deep down when they are upset. I have no doubt Slash probably said some things about Axl behind the scenes that got back to him. But, are we to believe Axl hasn't?

[AndreCC]

Ok girls look here:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/slash-axl-rose-hates-my-guts-20120402

he admit it himself

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4189220.stm arrogance and ego

http://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/2004/02/17/391094.html (He tells the reporter that the last thing he wants is an Axl type in hes new band and how painful it was to deal with axl)

http://www.vg.no/musikk/artikkel.php?artid=239080 -Axl takes the band name down the toilet, Axls shows are bad, Axl wanted to make a techno band( i think everybody knows that Oh my god and Shacklers revenge has nothing to do with techno).

- He has said that Axl in hes own eyes was a superstar as the public thaught he were. Axl destroyded the band since being late on stage, axl used all the money in GNR(mention above in the VG article, and the interview he gave when he left GNR when the november rain Oklahoma clip is being used, couldt find it right now but u know what i mean.

This was just a little bit, and Slash has admitted for a long time he has been bitter and badmouthed Axl. END OF STORY

So? does that clear Axl of all the stuff he's done and caused?

Slash said there's only negativity to be expressed when he thinks about GNR because it ended on a bad note. Who caused that bad note? - Axl

Who used to have the band pay show's money for curfews because he wasn't on time? - Axl

Who fired himself from the entity that was established and formed a new Guns N'Roses entity under his name and changed everyone's paycheck to profit more from that? - Axl

So you don't think that creates negativity? You don't think that would make anyone pissed off?? Think again...

it would be cool to hear from Slash directly a little bit more about this episode and the Vegas thing. Somehow i felt he really didn't give much detail in his book.

Probably because it was a bit of an embarrassing thing for him?

Good on him for having a try though, shame they didn't have at least a bit of a talk.

We can send them 5 questions, maybe he'll answer them.

Sure... why don't you write the first 4, i'll write the last one

Edited September 5, 2013 by AndreCC

[Kapitch_77]

Ok girls look here:

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/slash-axl-rose-hates-my-guts-20120402

he admit it himself

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4189220.stm arrogance and ego

http://www.dagbladet.no/kultur/2004/02/17/391094.html (He tells the reporter that the last thing he wants is an Axl type in hes new band and how painful it was to deal with axl)

http://www.vg.no/musikk/artikkel.php?artid=239080 -Axl takes the band name down the toilet, Axls shows are bad, Axl wanted to make a techno band( i think everybody knows that Oh my god and Shacklers revenge has nothing to do with techno).

- He has said that Axl in hes own eyes was a superstar as the public thaught he were. Axl destroyded the band since being late on stage, axl used all the money in GNR(mention above in the VG article, and the interview he gave when he left GNR when the november rain Oklahoma clip is being used, couldt find it right now but u know what i mean.

This was just a little bit, and Slash has admitted for a long time he has been bitter and badmouthed Axl. END OF STORY

Is this the worst you can find? If this is what upset Axl so much it only shows how much of a baby he is.

[AndreCC]

Haven't read Duff's book. Is it worth buying?

Yes it's a good read. I recommand it.

I'll have to read it then

[alfierose]

That would made a great "slasher" (no pun intended. Well, not really) movie title.Somebody should made an old school poster for that.

Lol I thought exactly the same thing.

[Kapitch_77]

Mommy I tried to fuck my ex bandmates and I try to burry them, I re-recorded a classic album with a bunch of no name in hope to sell those new versions so that the old band won't get money but they called me arrogant...snif...

I called Slash a cancer better removed and that he's in my ass but he says that I was late and that I wanted to make techno music...sniff..snif...

[Crash Diet]

It won't work
If Slash popped up when he 's sober...
wait, beta still was on charge so no way...
I don't think that visit could lead up to a reunion, just 2 former friends normalize their relationship and burried the hatchet...
I think in this case Slash (and Perla) fuckep up, like beta fucked up this situation...

also badmouthing about your bandmates when they STILL working with you is quite idiotic if you ask me... Not a nice move from Slash

[Kapitch_77]

It won't work

If Slash popped up when he 's sober...

wait, beta still was on charge so no way...

I don't think that visit could lead up to a reunion, just 2 former friends normalize their relationship and burried the hatchet...

I think in this case Slash (and Perla) fuckep up, like beta fucked up this situation...

also badmouthing about your bandmates when they STILL working with you is quite idiotic if you ask me... Not a nice move from Slash

What about when Axl wanted to kick Slash's ass on stage because he misheard him? What about the time when Axl threw his mic in Frank's direction and yelled "WTF" in front of a crowd? It's ok when Axl act like an asshole but nobody should speak against him ever?

[cooker]

It won't work

If Slash popped up when he 's sober...

wait, beta still was on charge so no way...

I don't think that visit could lead up to a reunion, just 2 former friends normalize their relationship and burried the hatchet...

I think in this case Slash (and Perla) fuckep up, like beta fucked up this situation...

also badmouthing about your bandmates when they STILL working with you is quite idiotic if you ask me... Not a nice move from Slash

What about when Axl wanted to kick Slash's ass on stage because he misheard him? What about the time when Axl threw his mic in Frank's direction and yelled "WTF" in front of a crowd? It's ok when Axl act like an asshole but nobody should speak against him ever?

when did Axl do that to Frank? Wow.