wasted Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Im not sure if Bucket was really up for or could have done the touring required for GNR. Maybe a bit like Ron, although Ron seems tougher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 (edited) Considering he was really nothing more than a glorified session guitarist in his time with GNR, no. That's not meant to disrespect Bucket btw. His contributions to CD are mainly just additional riffs and solos to already "complete" (but likely vastly inferior prior to his additions) songs. Shacklers is just a carryover that he was going to release as a solo song but gave to Axl. Edited October 14, 2013 by bacardimayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 There seems like there is always forces which stop the guitarists in GNR from running away with the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreCC Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 I think he would have left sooner or later... aparently the beggars and hangers weren't very respectful to him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 If the 2002, or even the 2006 lineup had stuck together, I absolutely believe we'd have at least 2 albums by now. Bucket & especially Robin leaving, I believe, really fucked up plans for the next release, as they are most likely all over the other unreleased tracks with several writing credits on various songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Glow Inc. Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 We'd have multiple New GnR albums by now if Axl wasn't in the band anymore...But, y'know, as much as I love New GnR, well, without Axl... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 No, the problems would still be exactly the same, I don't really see how Ron's held the band back from anything in a way that Bucket wouldn't have. He's been one of the most vocal supporters of writing and recording music since joining.Because Axl seemed to have faith in Bucket's skills in a way he doesn't with Ron. Ron's in the band to cover Bucket's parts in the live shows and that's about it as I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARBeast Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 It would beat Dj's solos for sure.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 No, the problems would still be exactly the same, I don't really see how Ron's held the band back from anything in a way that Bucket wouldn't have. He's been one of the most vocal supporters of writing and recording music since joining.Because Axl seemed to have faith in Bucket's skills in a way he doesn't with Ron. Ron's in the band to cover Bucket's parts in the live shows and that's about it as I see it. Would that be why Axl had Ron replace Bucket on Bucket's biggest and best contribution to writing on CD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 It's this simple: Buckethead & Robin were the guitarists Axl wanted and sought out for the band. DJ & Ron are simply filling in for said guitarist because they bailed on GNR.What real motivation is there for Axl to go out of his way to record with these guys? Especially when you consider that he has at least another album and a half worth of material from Robin & Bucket that he can put out whenever the wind finally hits him the right way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Does anybody else think we'd have multiple New GNR albums by now if Buckethead was still in the band?Why would Bucket being in the band speed anything up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Does anybody else think we'd have multiple New GNR albums by now if Buckethead was still in the band?Why would Bucket being in the band speed anything up?Exactly. The main problem here (to me at least) seems Axl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Does anybody else think we'd have multiple New GNR albums by now if Buckethead was still in the band?Why would Bucket being in the band speed anything up?I would imagine that Bucket & even moreso Robin leaving has slowed down how the next album is being approached by Axl. We know he has at least ablum and a half worth of finished material from those guys which (at one point) were planned for subsequent release after Chinese Democracy. I think Robin's unexpected departure and DJ joining the band, followed by 5 years of on and off touring has pretty much fucked us all out of hearing The General, Atlas Shrugged, Soul Monster and all other tracks we were looking forward to hearing on the followup album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARBeast Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 #bringbackbucketloseronanddj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 It's this simple: Buckethead & Robin were the guitarists Axl wanted and sought out for the band. DJ & Ron are simply filling in for said guitarist because they bailed on GNR.What real motivation is there for Axl to go out of his way to record with these guys? Especially when you consider that he has at least another album and a half worth of material from Robin & Bucket that he can put out whenever the wind finally hits him the right way.That album and a half of material has been deemed shit by the label. That seems like plenty of motivation to record with these guys to me. Bucket and Robin had their time, and they failed. Time to move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 No, the problems would still be exactly the same, I don't really see how Ron's held the band back from anything in a way that Bucket wouldn't have. He's been one of the most vocal supporters of writing and recording music since joining.Because Axl seemed to have faith in Bucket's skills in a way he doesn't with Ron. Ron's in the band to cover Bucket's parts in the live shows and that's about it as I see it. Think you're pulling that one out yer arse, pal . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
username Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Buckethead left because of the lack of progress. That tells me he was unable to influence it and speed it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Diet Posted October 14, 2013 Share Posted October 14, 2013 Does anybody else think we'd have multiple New GNR albums by now if Buckethead was still in the band?yeah it would be a possibility, but i think bucket would still leave the band after a few years (and albums) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 It would be funny if Dj writes a hit for GNR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HubbaBubba Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 It would be funny if Dj writes a hit for GNR. i honestly hope he does. But could we live with the shame? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 I think he has a great shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 It would be funny if Dj writes a hit for GNR. i honestly hope he does. But could we live with the shame?I've wondered about that myself since DJ joined. I know Sixx:AM has a lot of fans, but I haven't liked any of their tunes so far. I'll be bummed if GN'R hits radio with a generic sounding rock tune like theirs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Hopefully Dj is working on YCBM 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NGOG Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 How revisionist. Buckethead left because of Axl's inability to get working and release an album. How would that have miraculously changed? Axl could have Jimmy Page and Brian May and still behave in this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaeryen Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 Buckethead staying wouldn't have changed the course. It's Axl's personal demons, perfectionist+lazy tendencies and such, that kept and still keeps NuGNR from being a creatively productive force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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