luciusfunk Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 issues as big as international relations (Iron Sheik, Rusev, Muhammed Hassan, Nikolai Volkof) Very subtle propaganda eh? I actually find the latent racism in a lot of it quite disgusting. For example, every time the "bad guy" with a thick accent says anything, the crowd yells "WHAT?!" I hate that. It's not subtle, and it's actually gross. But at the same time, it's a fake scenario where those characters are meant to be stereotypical good and bad guys. As I recall, Muhammad Hassan's real name was something like Matt Cappoletti - he was a Roman Catholic Italian, hardly the Middle Eastern Muslim he was playing. In any case, setting aside the race politics, the good guys are stereotypically pristine, while the bad guys are stereotypically sleazy and embody all that "we" dislike. It's a vicarious and cathartic spectacle, not intended to be taken as reality. I see no difference between that and a violent movie that takes place in a modern and real conflict (Jarhead, Zero Dark, etc.).Um no. Stone Cold actually started the WHAT?! chant. http://youtu.be/xGfYCIrMiM0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 trying to counter-argue the fake thingWho even does that in all seriousness anymore?Lucius? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted October 22, 2014 Share Posted October 22, 2014 trying to counter-argue the fake thingWho even does that in all seriousness anymore? Lucius?Not really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roush Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I think Lenny and critics are stuck in the 80s. I don't know anyone old enough to use the pisser who thinks wrestling is real.It's because you guys simply dislike it yet you don't really have an argument to discredit pro wrestling as an entertainment spectacle except the age-old platitudes "wrestling is for dummies" or "it's fake". We get it ladies, you're too high brow for wrestling. Move on would you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I forgot about Mercury's nose. I'm not sure which hurts more to see, his nose, or Sid's leg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) I forgot about Mercury's nose. I'm not sure which hurts more to see, his nose, or Sid's leg.both are pretty bad. sid legs wins i think though, that was pretty bad. chris sabin blowing his knee out on impact was pretty bad as well. Edited October 23, 2014 by bran 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fucking Little Schemer Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Adults don't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtle Signs Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I have been lucky enough to go to four WrestleMania's (18,20,23,28) At each one I met people from all over the world. As much as I criticize today's product it's still lots of fun to sit for a few hours with 80,000 people and suspend disbelief.I was a grown ass man when Jeff Hardy won the title at Armageddon 08 and you best believe I marked the fuck out in the third row (hard camera side!)when he did so.I've loved wrestling since I was 5 and I don't see any reason why I will still not enjoy it when I'm 55.One of you keyboard warriors should go up to Brock Lesnar and tell him wrestling is fake. If you catch him on a bad day he might just knock you out quickly but then you could sue him from your hospital bed and get a nice payday out of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 The "what" chant happens to everyone, not just thick accented heels. If someone can't cut promos well and pauses often, they get the what chants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 trying to counter-argue the fake thingWho even does that in all seriousness anymore? Lucius?Not reallyFall from a 20 foot ladder onto another ladder and tell me that's fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I forgot about Mercury's nose. I'm not sure which hurts more to see, his nose, or Sid's leg.And the teeth loss... Eurgh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 trying to counter-argue the fake thingWho even does that in all seriousness anymore? Lucius?Not really Fall from a 20 foot ladder onto another ladder and tell me that's fake.Different things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 trying to counter-argue the fake thingWho even does that in all seriousness anymore? Lucius?Not really Fall from a 20 foot ladder onto another ladder and tell me that's fake.Different things.So we were talking about wrestling, you present a clip showing Foleys fat arse hurtling off a cage and then make reference to it being something that, upon viewing, one cannot rightly claim wrestling to be fake (unless theres some other meaning behind 'watch this and then tell me its fake')...but you weren't talking about whether wrestling is fake or not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) trying to counter-argue the fake thingWho even does that in all seriousness anymore? Lucius?Not really Fall from a 20 foot ladder onto another ladder and tell me that's fake.Different things.So we were talking about wrestling, you present a clip showing Foleys fat arse hurtling off a cage and then make reference to it being something that, upon viewing, one cannot rightly claim wrestling to be fake (unless theres some other meaning behind 'watch this and then tell me its fake')...but you weren't talking about whether wrestling is fake or not? Never said wrestling wasn't fake. Falling off a cage onto a table isn't fake. Your comprehension baffles me. Edited October 23, 2014 by luciusfunk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 (edited) In the middle of a discussion about whether wrestling is fake or not, you post an image, from a wrestling match, with a person hitting a ladder, in the context of a wrestling match, then make specific reference to whether or not its fake...but you weren't talking about whether or not wrestling is fake? And its my comprehension thats baffling?!? Edited October 23, 2014 by Lennie Godber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Ok Lenny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 You're such a 4 year old Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Says the guy who threw a fit over being suspended and asked for his account to be deleted. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satanisk_Slakt Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 It's funny how people who like Wrestling are usually the same people that like America's gun laws. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Says the guy who threw a fit over being suspended and asked for his account to be deleted.And that has what bearing on the fact that you just massively talked out of your arse just now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Oh Lenny, you're so cool. Can you teach me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 OK, the discussions have ended and the wanker olympics have begun, thats my cue, see ya later boss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luciusfunk Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 Wanker Olympics?Here you go, Lenny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbhutto Posted October 23, 2014 Share Posted October 23, 2014 I dunno why the whole "but it's not real" stigma still exists around wrestling. Is there anythingon television that actually is real? Reality shows are all staged, the news is only real insofar as how willing you are to buy into one side of an argument. I would rather enter into a voluntary stupor than to be misled or otherwise be left wondering at which points I'm being misled. At least with wrestling there's a certain type of honesty about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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