Game of Thrones Season 6 Discussion Thread *No Spoilers*

[downzy]

Cersei''s pussy and tits are delicious

You mean Cersei's body double? I could tell CGI from a mile away.

for real?

they don't even have the budget to pay their actors to get naked?

on a show were half of the not boring scenes are mostly soft porn?

anyway if a world with CGI boobs and pussy came over, then we are fucked

also her ass seems real to me, but now you said, those tits are suspicious

At this point, i've looked into all the theories about Jon, and really hope the

R + L = J theory is true. But Kit said he's dead and won't come back next season. So bleh.

Damn the Nights Watch!!!!

This would make sense, but the show writers are so untalented, they probably forgot that

There's no way that the actor talk about his character is finally dead unless that is the truth

Y'know, contracts and shit

Just because you personally didn't enjoy the show doesn't make the producers/showrunners untalented. If that were the case, the show would clean up come award season year after year.

Sorry for having an actual taste in TV shows...

sorry for calling a spade a spade

Just because you think they are talented it doesn't mean that they are

Awards means nothing. Oscar awards were mostly political/undeserved for example

P.S.i personally enjoy the show, but for now mostly for the lulz

Well, if I were alone in my assessment, I would be more inclined to agree with you. But considering the millions who watch it, plus the vast array of critics who gush praise for the series week after week, it would seem your opinion represents the outlier position.

FYI, they don't give out Oscars for television shows.

[Daedalus]

https://soundcloud.com/steveduzz/game-of-thrones-main-theme-80s-version

I think the same theme is used here:

[downzy]

Cersei''s pussy and tits are delicious

You mean Cersei's body double? I could tell CGI from a mile away.

for real?

they don't even have the budget to pay their actors to get naked?

on a show were half of the not boring scenes are mostly soft porn?

anyway if a world with CGI boobs and pussy came over, then we are fucked

also her ass seems real to me, but now you said, those tits are suspicious

Yeah, it's actually very obvious when she's getting that dramatic haircut, then when she's doing her walk of shame, her face does not match the body in some parts. Also, if you saw 300, you know how Lena's breasts look like. As for not being naked and using a body double, I don't think it's a salary-related issue 'cause I'm sure HBO can pay whatever Lena Headey is asking for, but maybe she doesn't want to get naked. I haven't seen too much nudity since Season 2, to be honest.

Yeah, I was wondering about that. She had no problem getting naked in 300, but she opts for a body double in GoT. Then again, 300 was shot ten years ago, so she might have been a little more confident naked back then than she does now.

[OmarBradley]

Also, can we talk about how Stannis, the "most brilliant military commander in Westeros" marched his force at half strength on foot into an open plain without first sending out a scouting party........

[downzy]

Also, can we talk about how Stannis, the "most brilliant military commander in Westeros" marched his force at half strength on foot into an open plain without first sending out a scouting party........

Yeah, though perhaps the Boltons hid their calvary within the walls of Winterfell.

Also, as great of a mind Stannis is when it comes to military matters, the season has been fairly consistent in regards to his inability to fall backward. He always seems to move forward, regardless of the circumstances.

One also wonders how much of the kool-aid Stannis was under with respect to the Lord of Light and whatever bullshit Melissandre was peddling. Perhaps at this point of the story he was under such disillusion that regardless of what his enemy throws at him, he'd end up the victor.

[OmarBradley]

Also, can we talk about how Stannis, the "most brilliant military commander in Westeros" marched his force at half strength on foot into an open plain without first sending out a scouting party........

Yeah, though perhaps the Boltons hid their calvary within the walls of Winterfell.

Also, as great of a mind Stannis is when it comes to military matters, the season has been fairly consistent in regards to his inability to fall backward. He always seems to move forward, regardless of the circumstances.

One also wonders how much of the kool-aid Stannis was under with respect to the Lord of Light and whatever bullshit Melissandre was peddling. Perhaps at this point of the story he was under such disillusion that regardless of what his enemy throws at him, he'd end up the victor.

I think he moreso decided, "fuck it." I think he sort of realizes Mel's charade, and that's why she leaves. At this point... he's killed his brother, his daughter, his wife, and he's completely alienated his best friend..... and he starts to realize - none of it may have actually mattered. By the end of the battle, I think he certainly comes to a more significant point of realization.

I'm sort of justifying my own qualm with this answer.... but even with his perspective shift, I think it was kinda dumb that they had him battle like that. I get that they didn't expect a field battle.... but still, how did Stannis have no horses?

And I know this was briefly mentioned a few pages ago, but were all of those horseriders Bolton's men? Or were they other northern bannermen who had willfully/reluctantly come to aid Roose because they liked Stannis even less?

I suppose another partial answer is that Winterfell's stable may have provided a bulk of the horses.... I just feel like the whole thing was done in such a vague way that lacked detail. There are things we can speculate as to why the battle happened that way.... but without seeing/hearing the reasons it came across sort of dumb..... especially since they barely showed it.

And Roose mentioned 2-3 episodes that they were "more prepared for a siege than ever." Somewhere along the way they completely changed strategy? When? You have to show these things - otherwise it starts to look dumb, which is something we've been saying all season.

The story telling is getting lazier as they stray from the source material.

[downzy]

Also, can we talk about how Stannis, the "most brilliant military commander in Westeros" marched his force at half strength on foot into an open plain without first sending out a scouting party........

Yeah, though perhaps the Boltons hid their calvary within the walls of Winterfell.

Also, as great of a mind Stannis is when it comes to military matters, the season has been fairly consistent in regards to his inability to fall backward. He always seems to move forward, regardless of the circumstances.

One also wonders how much of the kool-aid Stannis was under with respect to the Lord of Light and whatever bullshit Melissandre was peddling. Perhaps at this point of the story he was under such disillusion that regardless of what his enemy throws at him, he'd end up the victor.

I think he moreso decided, "fuck it." I think he sort of realizes Mel's charade, and that's why she leaves. At this point... he's killed his brother, his daughter, his wife, and he's completely alienated his best friend..... and he starts to realize - none of it may have actually mattered. By the end of the battle, I think he certainly comes to a more significant point of realization.

Yeah, this makes a lot of sense to me. I was just brainstorming. When Bolton's calvary came onto the battlefield, you could see in Stannis' face that the writing was on the wall.

I'm sort of justifying my own qualm with this answer.... but even with his perspective shift, I think it was kinda dumb that they had him battle like that. I get that they didn't expect a field battle.... but still, how did Stannis have no horses?

Didn't most of Stannis' horses die as a result of Ramsay's raid? And the rest were taken by the troops who deserted him?

And I know this was briefly mentioned a few pages ago, but were all of those horseriders Bolton's men? Or were they other northern bannermen who had willfully/reluctantly come to aid Roose because they liked Stannis even less?

It isn't clear where all those men and horses came from. I suppose they'll answer that in season 6.

And Roose mentioned 2-3 episodes that they were "more prepared for a siege than ever." Somewhere along the way they completely changed strategy? When? You have to show these things - otherwise it starts to look dumb, which is something we've been saying all season.

The story telling is getting lazier as they stray from the source material.

I'd disagree with this. We never saw much in the way of Roose's treachery against the Starks. I don't think they necessarily changed strategy, but once Stannis's forces were cut in half after desertion and winter, they likely changed course considering the resources they had at their disposal.

Again, I'm very weary of chastising the show runners when the story still has ways to go.

[OmarBradley]

I'd disagree with this. We never saw much in the way of Roose's treachery against the Starks. I don't think they necessarily changed strategy, but once Stannis's forces were cut in half after desertion and winter, they likely changed course considering the resources they had at their disposal.

Again, I'm very weary of chastising the show runners when the story still has ways to go.

Okay that is a fair point actually, Roose likely had scouting parties that noticed half of Stannis's forces leaving. Though I highly doubt 20 "good men" could deplete an entire army's worth of horses and siege equipment.....

I admit I probably get too critical of Dan/David/whoever else comes up with this stuff, but they most certainly deserve some criticism. Some of the story choices have been baffling, and pandering to people like Strange_Broue. I still maintain that their version of Stannis vs. Winterfell/Roose was done pretty poorly, even if the issues are somewhat exonerated by the suspension of belief.

[AtariLegend]

Not going to go on again about how radically stupid Stannis/Boltons was compared to the books.

Dorne though, is there anyone who's stilling to argue that it was for anything other than giving Nickolaj something to do? It's completely pointless, they didn't even go the desperate route of having Dorne support Danny like they shoe-horned onto Vary's since they cut his end game as well. Wouldn't be surprised if they just drop Dorne next season outside of Trystane who they'll probably just have Cerseri kill outright.

Bad awkward acting too having Jamie suddenly be the fatherly type and Myrcella be happy that she's an incest baby.

Also Theon/Sansa jumping off the wall. There's a similar escape in the books with Theon/Jeyne when they end up a little bit injured, but okay. However the director forgot to play up the snow being deep/high, made it look like they jumped to their death. Apart from downzy, is anyone still going to argue that putting Sansa in that situation to get tortured/raped was really for anything over than shock value?

I can't believe they made "For The Watch" about fucking Olly.

[downzy]

Also Theon/Sansa jumping off the wall. There's a similar escape in the books with Theon/Jeyne when they end up a little bit injured, but okay. However the director forgot to play up the snow being deep/high, made it look like they jumped to their death. Apart from downzy, is anyone still going to argue that putting Sansa in that situation to get tortured/raped was really for anything over than shock value?

I really don't understand your position here? What else were they suppose to do with Sansa? Moreover, it sounds like they simply merged the Jeyne Poole storyline with Sansa's. It was a clever way of telling that part of the books without having to write for Jeyne Poole for five seasons. You're giving this storyline far less credit than deserved. It worked for me, and I would imagine it worked for most who follow the show.

[AtariLegend]

Also Theon/Sansa jumping off the wall. There's a similar escape in the books with Theon/Jeyne when they end up a little bit injured, but okay. However the director forgot to play up the snow being deep/high, made it look like they jumped to their death. Apart from downzy, is anyone still going to argue that putting Sansa in that situation to get tortured/raped was really for anything over than shock value?

I really don't understand your position here? What else were they suppose to do with Sansa? Moreover, it sounds like they simply merged the Jeyne Poole storyline with Sansa's. It was a clever way of telling that part of the books without having to write for Jeyne Poole for five seasons. You're giving this storyline far less credit than deserved. It worked for me, and I would imagine it worked for most who follow the show.

Sansa could have took the season off. Not like she's more important to the story than Bran other than marketing or they could have stuck with the books, her in the Vale "playing the game", plotting with Littlefinger.

Jeyne Poole didn't need to be wrote for 5 seasons, she's a minor character. The Winterfell storyline and the events that go on there, are part of Theon's story arc. It's about Theon's redemption, albeit he's a bit more redeemable. I also think Alfie Allen is one of the better actors on the show.

Edited June 16, 2015 by AtariLegend

[downzy]

Also Theon/Sansa jumping off the wall. There's a similar escape in the books with Theon/Jeyne when they end up a little bit injured, but okay. However the director forgot to play up the snow being deep/high, made it look like they jumped to their death. Apart from downzy, is anyone still going to argue that putting Sansa in that situation to get tortured/raped was really for anything over than shock value?

I really don't understand your position here? What else were they suppose to do with Sansa? Moreover, it sounds like they simply merged the Jeyne Poole storyline with Sansa's. It was a clever way of telling that part of the books without having to write for Jeyne Poole for five seasons. You're giving this storyline far less credit than deserved. It worked for me, and I would imagine it worked for most who follow the show.

Sansa could have took the season off. Not like she's more important to the story than Bran other than marketing or they could have stuck with the books, her in the Vale "playing the game", plotting with Littlefinger.

Jeyne Poole didn't need to be wrote for 5 seasons, she's a minor character. The Winterfell storyline and the events that go on there, are part of Theon's story arc. It's about Theon's redemption, albeit he's a bit more redeemable. I also think Alfie Allen is one of the better actors on the show.

Fair enough. I just disagree that it was done strictly for shock value. As you mention, they already Bran taking this season off, perhaps they didn't want to leave off another Stark during the same season.

The reality is that this is such a large show with so many storylines that compromises are going to have to be made. I personally don't mind them doing this if done effectively. And for me personally, Sansa's storyline, as it intertwined with Theon's, worked.

[Deb Rose]

IMO Theon could have done more. Actually, SHOULD. And Sansa being there made it harder cause she's not as fragile as Jeyne so he could be the total hero as he should to redeem himself. Also didn't like the fact that she went in all strong and "fuck yeah vengeance is mine" and then got fragile again. She had to know she wasn't gonna get lucky AGAIN and have Ramsay be as kind as Tyrion. Especially since it's fucking Ramsay.

Also don't get WTF the Boltons were thinking. I mean, Sansa is already married to Tyrion and wanted for the murder of Joffrey, they're technically still on the Lannister side so how would they get Cersei's approval for that? Anyway...

But I do get they can't hire one million actors, too much money and bla bla. Also, ten episodes is not enough to do everything.

[AtariLegend]

This sums up my views.

[Nosaj Thing]

This sums up my views.

Thanks for this. I didn't know that guy reviewed GoT. Funny stuff.

"You want a good girl, but you need a bad pussy."

[bran]

This sums up my views.

i literally cringed at that

[Georgy Zhukov]

College education means shit if you can't even write a good storyline. These guys have fucked up so many storylines. I don't care if they stray from the book, just keep the fucking storylines in-tact. I am certain that these guys did not plan ahead. They should have cut the Dorne storyline and just continue with the Ironborn. Sure they needed a way to get Myrcella back into the story, but they didn't need to waste a whole season on it.

[Uncle Bob]

http://blog.gameoflaughs.com/2015/06/a-body-double-was-used-for-ceresis-walk.html

so is not her

[OmarBradley]

Also, how unbelievably dumb was the "bad pussy" line?

Answer: one million units of unbelievably dumb.

[Nosaj Thing]

Everyone around the world cringed at the same time when that line was said.

I felt a bit disappointed with the Sand Snakes, I thought they were going to do something else, other than terrible acting with terrible dialogues. Bring back Oberyn, you motherfuckers!

[downzy]

http://blog.gameoflaughs.com/2015/06/a-body-double-was-used-for-ceresis-walk.html

so is not her

Ahh, she was pregnant at the time. That explains it. Figured she'd be fine with it since she was quite naked in 300.

[Georgy Zhukov]

http://blog.gameoflaughs.com/2015/06/a-body-double-was-used-for-ceresis-walk.html

so is not her

Ahh, she was pregnant at the time. That explains it. Figured she'd be fine with it since she was quite naked in 300.

Or that was a body double too.

[AtariLegend]

She said "for a variety of reasons". She actually probably would have been less than a month pregnant at the time if she knew at all, given the due date isn't until mid July. She was pregnant in the first season too, that was the excuse for the fully clothed sex scene with Jamie in the first episode. In fairness though given the gracious shot of the body doubles bouncing breasts at one point shown from the neck down, no surprise she wouldn't have wanted to be exploited.

She knew for years this scene was coming. However this is also the same show that re-wrote Dario pledging allegiance to Danny from the books so that they could film Emila Clarke stepping out of a bath. Melisande being naked in a 1/3 of her scenes for no apparent reason. So they get to a big scene that genuinely requires nudity and the star says no thank you.

[Strange Broue]

Cersei''s pussy and tits are delicious

You mean Cersei's body double? I could tell CGI from a mile away.

for real?

they don't even have the budget to pay their actors to get naked?

on a show were half of the not boring scenes are mostly soft porn?

anyway if a world with CGI boobs and pussy came over, then we are fucked

also her ass seems real to me, but now you said, those tits are suspicious

At this point, i've looked into all the theories about Jon, and really hope the

R + L = J theory is true. But Kit said he's dead and won't come back next season. So bleh.

Damn the Nights Watch!!!!

This would make sense, but the show writers are so untalented, they probably forgot that

There's no way that the actor talk about his character is finally dead unless that is the truth

Y'know, contracts and shit

Just because you personally didn't enjoy the show doesn't make the producers/showrunners untalented. If that were the case, the show would clean up come award season year after year.

Sorry for having an actual taste in TV shows...

sorry for calling a spade a spade

Just because you think they are talented it doesn't mean that they are

Awards means nothing. Oscar awards were mostly political/undeserved for example

P.S.i personally enjoy the show, but for now mostly for the lulz

Well, if I were alone in my assessment, I would be more inclined to agree with you. But considering the millions who watch it, plus the vast array of critics who gush praise for the series week after week, it would seem your opinion represents the outlier position.

FYI, they don't give out Oscars for television shows.

"Eat shit, 100 Billion Flies can't be wrong" http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

My example about Oscars are applicable to ANY award... not to mention that TV series awards have even worse standards

Like i said: i enjoy this show, but just for the lulz and i'm sure a few million other people agrees with me...

you see how it goes?

As for Cersei: bummer

i wonder if she demanded more salary for the rape scene, though

i totally forgot her in 300

Old but gold, but still better than anything Axl Rose released since 1991

Edited June 17, 2015 by Strange Broue

[Georgy Zhukov]

I haven't even finished episode 10. It is so bad. Call me a purist but I hate this season not just because it pisses on the books but because the crap they come up with is utter trash. They resort to creating new characters just so they can make their storylines work, maybe the wrong people are running this show.