gunsNbones Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Hi everybody,have you ever considered chinese democracy as Axl's autobiography ?I remember him saying that songs order were important.I would say :1, CD : issue with his step/father2, SR : leaving indiana3, better : drugs ?4, SOD : afd (retrospectively speaking)5, ITW : érin 6, TWAT : seymour (retrospectively speaking)7, CITR : his desillusions during uyi tour8, scraped : post spaghetti incident9, R&B : ??10, sorry : previous members of gnr11, IRS : problem with justice12, madagascar : his pastlife, that looks like a big storm13, TIL : his mother14, prostitute : message for gnr fansyour thoughts ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin' Cigarettes Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I think you're looking too hard into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HubbaBubba Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I think you're looking too hard into this.Why does this have to be the first reply when someone has a semi-original idea for a thread? And is it really stretching it to think that any artist's lyrics are autobiographical? This is meant to be a fan site after all.God knows guns fans have gotta live with disappointment, and mygnr is still really the only place to vent without being crucified by the kool-aid crew. But we should still enjoy some genuine fan threads that - gasp - don't bitch about either Axl/tb or slash & friends.On topic: Some of these had occurred to me. A while back, when SOD was still The Blues, someone suggested that this was the only song that Axl wrote dealing directly with his relationship with Slash. I heard the song in a whole different way after that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokin' Cigarettes Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Just as you think one way, I have the right to think the other. You can make things anything you want with a little effort. I personally do not believe axl was penning his autobiography. Sure, he wrote about what he was feeling at the time and I'm sure he still had a chips on his shoulder to make it work but I don't think it's as deep as you apparently think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwalker19 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I wouldn't go that far and I don't agree with some of the song meanings, but everyone has their own perception of what the songs mean. I know Shackler's is definitely about school shootings though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HubbaBubba Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I wouldn't go that far and I don't agree with some of the song meanings, but everyone has their own perception of what the songs mean. I know Shackler's is definitely about school shootings though.Did Axl say that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl Rose aka God Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I've always assumed Prostitute was either about Axl's feelings towards the way he's perceived or the fans perception of the band. You're not wrong, and neither am I, or anyone else. It's all about interpertation, until Axl explains the songs. Which may not happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 55 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Just as you think one way, I have the right to think the other.I think you posted that just to be a dick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwalker19 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I wouldn't go that far and I don't agree with some of the song meanings, but everyone has their own perception of what the songs mean. I know Shackler's is definitely about school shootings though.Did Axl say that?Yeah. I think it was actually on this forum somehwere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bumblefeet Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I'd definitely say its autobiographical, a lot of the tone of CD is reflecting on the past, ranging from melancholic, regret, spite, contempt, realization and acceptance. I've always felt that some of the lyrics are surprisingly open, almost as if he's singing from his shrink's couch (never having been to one, so take that one with a grain of salt). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkside259 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Chinese democracy is about the fear in china cominism , axl say that in the album book i think , sr is about a shoouting and sod is for dylan the son of seymour , madagascar is the metafory comparation of the book "the old man and the sea" and martin luther king fighting for the humans rights , sorry for my bad english Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I don't agree with most of your song interpretations but it's obvious that Chinese Democracy is Axl's most personal album. Hell, it's literally Axl's album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axlspants Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I always thought an interesting spin on the Sorry lyrics was it been aimed at the fans. Listen to it and imagine he is singing directly to members of this forum and I think you'll find a great fit!Axl wears his heart on his sleeve so I assume that the songs are autobiographical but remember poetic licence too, sometimes people just fall into a great lyric and don't attach too much meaning to it, other than it sounding cool. I mean he's never had stardust at his feet but its an awesome lyric.Shacklers is about a school shooting though not leaving Indiana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GUNNER PT Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 It makes some sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 He's lived a seriously butthurt life if that's his autobiography.Thankfully it's not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Diet Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 NoAxl started writing a book, but like most of his works he doesn't finish it... (Sebastian Bach mentioned it)Nowadays the endless touring probably derailed him even mopre from this stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandallFlagg Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I think catcher in the rye is more likely to be about chapman putting some slugs into lennon and trying to justify it in relation to holden caulfield's sentiments on phonies and fame, then axl going off on salinger for writing the book that inspired this murder, it has practically zero to do with the uyi tour.Imo you are right about Street of Dreams, TWAT, Sorry and Prostitute. As much as we all would've liked CD to be a kinda concept record and explain more than it ought to, it is quite sporadic in its themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I always thought Better was about a relationship that was hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BreakDown2014 Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Why not? I think it's a legitimate way to look at the album and makes complete sense to me. Great interpretation of the songs order, I had never looked it that way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Chinese Democracy is so negative and melodramatic it makes me sad for Axl if it's indeed his autobiography. I've seen chubby 14 years old gothic girls with a brighter view at life than poor Axl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunsNbones Posted July 16, 2014 Author Share Posted July 16, 2014 thanks for the repliesit's nice to see others approaches of cd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
14 Years Of Silence Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 My view:1, CD : Chinese government2, SR : Interscope/UMG3, better : Stephanie and Beta (how Beta "better" rescused him after his depression when things fell apart with Stephanie)4, SOD : Slash5, ITW : Beta6, TWAT : Stephanie7, CITR : 1st half of song - how Axl feels like Holden Caulfield; 2nd half of song - impact Chapman's murder or Lennon on Axl8, scraped : Axl's "bi-polar disorder"9, R&B : Axl's arms dealer brother in law (when he was married to Erin) and his views on Islamic fundamentalists10, sorry : Slash, media and fans11, IRS : All the litigation Axl's dealt with12, madagascar : Axl's isolation after original Guns broke up13, TIL : his mother14, prostitute : message for original gnr lineup fans and the media Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jwalker19 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Anyone think Sorry is about Steven Adler? I've been leaning toward that lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IncitingChaos Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Axl said he doesn't go back to the book he was writing because it was too painful. Or atleast that's what I thought he said when he came here to chat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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