Robert G Durant Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) I can take the positive criticism on robin - it's just I never forgave slash for leaving gnr - and that alone put slash in a bad light for meHey, remember that time Robin Finck stopped taking Axl's phone calls right in the middle of the Best Buy deal (instead of just quitting like a normal person) and made it so that GnR couldn't find a replacement guitarist in time to promote the album release? Or the time he never communicated with the GnR fans again?If Slash quitting was unforgivable, then Robin quitting AND totally fucking over Chinese Democracy must have made you furious.Robin is a decent guitarist, but he needs someone like Axl or Reznor to be successful. And he's NEVER written a hit song. Slash is still a household name and he hasn't worked with a bigger name than his own since Michael Jackson in the early 90's. All his current success is his own. Edited November 5, 2014 by Robert G Durant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 I can take the positive criticism on robin - it's just I never forgave slash for leaving gnr - and that alone put slash in a bad light for meHey, remember that time Robin Finck stopped taking Axl's phone calls right in the middle of the Best Buy deal (instead of just quitting like a normal person) and made it so that GnR couldn't find a replacement guitarist in time to promote the album release? Or the time he never communicated with the GnR fans again?If Slash quitting was unforgivable, then Robin quitting AND totally fucking over Chinese Democracy must have made you furious.Robin is a decent guitarist, but he needs someone like Axl or Reznor to be successful. And he's NEVER written a hit song. Slash is still a household name and he hasn't worked with a bigger name than his own since Michael Jackson in the early 90's. All his current success is his own.Yes...it was all Robin's fault. And fuck him for never writing a hit song. Fucker. So he gave 10 years for Axl with nothing to show for. What's the big deal? poor Axl Rose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert G Durant Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Yes...it was all Robin's fault. And fuck him for never writing a hit song. Fucker. So he gave 10 years for Axl with nothing to show for. What's the big deal? poor Axl Rose.Never writing a popular song doesn't make him a bad person, it just makes him a lot less successful than Slash.Sitting around for a decade cashing GnR paychecks and then bailing when it was time to actually work was kind of a dick move. But just shutting off communication and leaving things in limbo instead of telling them he was out so they could hire a replacement and get on with the album promotion is just as big of shitty move as anything Axl ever did.Axl fucked over the real GnR, Robin fucked over the new one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) Yes...it was all Robin's fault. And fuck him for never writing a hit song. Fucker. So he gave 10 years for Axl with nothing to show for. What's the big deal? poor Axl Rose.Never writing a popular song doesn't make him a bad person, it just makes him a lot less successful than Slash.Sitting around for a decade cashing GnR paychecks and then bailing when it was time to actually work was kind of a dick move. But just shutting off communication and leaving things in limbo instead of telling them he was out so they could hire a replacement and get on with the album promotion is just as big of shitty move as anything Axl ever did.Axl fucked over the real GnR, Robin fucked over the new one.Interesting logic you got there buddy. First of all, you talk like you know exactly what happened between Axl, Robin, the Gn'R camp and all that shit at the time.Second: Robin wanted to move forward and it dragged on for years like he said in a couple of interviews he gave. In 2006, I think Axl was sure Chinese was coming out, so Robin must have thought the same. How long should he waited? Robin saw a chance to do something productive with NIN, and he took it.And even without that gig, you can't really complain about it. 10 years and he had enough. I guess he didn't see the point in staying. And it wasn't just him. Axl lost a lot of talent cause of his way of doing or not doing things. Edited November 5, 2014 by Rovim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 it's just I never forgave slash for leaving gnr - and that alone put slash in a bad light for meRemind me again, my memory is fuzzy, but didn't Robin also walk out on Axl? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) it's just I never forgave slash for leaving gnr - and that alone put slash in a bad light for meRemind me again, my memory is fuzzy, but didn't Robin also walk out on Axl?And Bucket. And Brain. And Josh. And now Bumble is a ?. Edited November 5, 2014 by Rovim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 it's just I never forgave slash for leaving gnr - and that alone put slash in a bad light for meRemind me again, my memory is fuzzy, but didn't Robin also walk out on Axl?And Bucket. And Brain. And Josh. And now Bumble is a ?.I haven't heard about Bumble's situation in a while, has there been any indication either direction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) it's just I never forgave slash for leaving gnr - and that alone put slash in a bad light for meRemind me again, my memory is fuzzy, but didn't Robin also walk out on Axl?And Bucket. And Brain. And Josh. And now Bumble is a ?.I haven't heard about Bumble's situation in a while, has there been any indication either direction?Not really. The Gn'R camp will not confirm if Bumble is still in the band. Bumble did not address it either. Just weird fuckin' interviews he gave where he talks about his job in Guns in the past tense and shit like that.If all was well, I think he'd have no problem confirming he was still in Guns and the rumors were just bullshit. He knows we're not sure about his situation in Guns, and yet nothing. Maybe he can't talk about it. Nice way of dealing with it! Edited November 5, 2014 by Rovim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Coma Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 it's just I never forgave slash for leaving gnr - and that alone put slash in a bad light for meRemind me again, my memory is fuzzy, but didn't Robin also walk out on Axl? And Bucket. And Brain. And Josh. And now Bumble is a ?.I haven't heard about Bumble's situation in a while, has there been any indication either direction?Basically we are stuck at - no one In gnr land cares enough about it to confirm or even deny it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmapelian Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 tomfriend - the difference is robin's gnr studio work like Chinese cd - robin's gnr live work like his solo spot in new jersey 2007 - and the fact the majority still think slash is the man with world on fireslash is the only one that is known outside of mygnr and htgth; ask the average fan what robin wrote for GnR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) tomfriend - the difference is robin's gnr studio work like Chinese cd - robin's gnr live work like his solo spot in new jersey 2007 - and the fact the majority still think slash is the man with world on fireslash is the only one that is known outside of mygnr and htgth; ask the average fan what robin wrote for GnR We know better. Edited November 5, 2014 by Rovim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Coma Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 tomfriend - the difference is robin's gnr studio work like Chinese cd - robin's gnr live work like his solo spot in new jersey 2007 - and the fact the majority still think slash is the man with world on fireslash is the only one that is known outside of mygnr and htgth; ask the average fan what robin wrote for GnR We know better.Ask an average fan who duff Steven or izzy are and see what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pockets Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 hey guys - robin was not crucial to Chinese - robin is the lead guitarist of Chinese - robin created and recorded some of the greatest gnr solos and rock solos with Chinese democracy, better, twat, street of dreams, catcher, irs, Madagascar, and my fav This I Love. slash could never create or record better rock solos than these. and certainly on current slash there is nothing EPIC about world on fire with rock solos - and that's because slash isn't as imaginative and creative as robin is with rock solos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dando Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 hey guys - robin was not crucial to Chinese - robin is the lead guitarist of Chinese - robin created and recorded some of the greatest gnr solos and rock solos with Chinese democracy, better, twat, street of dreams, catcher, irs, Madagascar, and my fav This I Love. slash could never create or record better rock solos than these. and certainly on current slash there is nothing EPIC about world on fire with rock solos - and that's because slash isn't as imaginative and creative as robin is with rock solosJust a point, the solo robin did on catcher, not something I'd shout about , it's crap and the worst track on chinese . I'm not slash's biggest fan, but he's brilliant and a million times what robin will ever be . And your point on world on fire, I agree ..... It's rubbish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 hey guys - robin was not crucial to Chinese - robin is the lead guitarist of Chinese - robin created and recorded some of the greatest gnr solos and rock solos with Chinese democracy, better, twat, street of dreams, catcher, irs, Madagascar, and my fav This I Love. slash could never create or record better rock solos than these. and certainly on current slash there is nothing EPIC about world on fire with rock solos - and that's because slash isn't as imaginative and creative as robin is with rock solosJust a point, the solo robin did on catcher, not something I'd shout about , it's crap and the worst track on chinese . I'm not slash's biggest fan, but he's brilliant and a million times what robin will ever be . And your point on world on fire, I agree ..... It's rubbishThat's not Robin. That's Bumble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
niceguy Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 The TIL solo is excruciating sonic garbage, made worse by a complete garbage song overall. Robin is a completely unremarkable guitarist. He was just lucky enough that reznor pulled him into NIN. That's all there is to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 hey guys - robin was not crucial to Chinese - robin is the lead guitarist of Chinese - robin created and recorded some of the greatest gnr solos and rock solos with Chinese democracy, better, twat, street of dreams, catcher, irs, Madagascar, and my fav This I Love. slash could never create or record better rock solos than these. and certainly on current slash there is nothing EPIC about world on fire with rock solos - and that's because slash isn't as imaginative and creative as robin is with rock solosLol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) The TIL solo is excruciating sonic garbage, made worse by a complete garbage song overall.Robin is a completely unremarkable guitarist. He was just lucky enough that reznor pulled him into NIN.That's all there is to it.Listen again to his Better solo or There Was A Time. Or the second half of his Street Of Dreams solo where it gets intense. That shit is great imo. Even his Chinese Democracy solo and I.R.S solo have that weird fucked up in a good way vibe about them.And I don't know what you mean about his This I Love solo. It's melodic, and has a very distinct direction about it for the duration of the solo. His guitar wails and cries and it's one of the best solos on the album imo. Ton of emotion and badass tone. Edited November 5, 2014 by Rovim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pockets Posted November 5, 2014 Author Share Posted November 5, 2014 I agree with rovim. that's what robin's til solo is. and I dare slash to create a better rock solo on his 4th solo album Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Amazing how Robin Finck managed to get a fanbase of really weird people. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Robin has an edgier haircut therefore he is clearly the better guitarist. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Amazing how Robin Finck managed to get a fanbase of really weird people.Is it a bad thing? being weird that is. It just makes me even more unique and original. Say... aren't you from South America or some shit? lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn_Smooth Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Amazing how Robin Finck managed to get a fanbase of really weird people.How is that amazing? I would think that being really weird would be a requirement to be a fan. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Facekicker Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 Amazing how Robin Finck managed to get a fanbase of really weird people.How is that amazing? I would think that being really weird would be a requirement to be a fan.All the cool kids have a disorder these days. And an edgy haircut, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maynard Posted November 5, 2014 Share Posted November 5, 2014 (edited) Amazing how Robin Finck managed to get a fanbase of really weird people.How is that amazing? I would think that being really weird would be a requirement to be a fan.Well, in NIN forums people like him and that's it. They know he's a hired guy to play Trent's music and still like/love him for what he is. So yeah, seeing how his fans (for his time in Axl's band) are, it is kinda amazing.@Rovim: I skip your posts but I saw you were asking me something. If you want my attention, PM me. Edited November 5, 2014 by ProstituteComa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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