netcat Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 so what exactly did they incriminate to that Dieudonné guy? an FB status? i doubt there's a chapter in French criminal code about being the "apologist for terrorism". there is probably a chapter about "accomplice of terrorists", but obviously that's not the case...There is a law on apology for terrorism. I don't know if the translation is very accurate though. It is a law trying to prevent groups from radicalizing.what is it about? like, public incitement to terrorist activity or public justification of terrorism? it will be hard to prove that Charlie Coulibaly FB status has anything to do with that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 so what exactly did they incriminate to that Dieudonné guy? an FB status? i doubt there's a chapter in French criminal code about being the "apologist for terrorism". there is probably a chapter about "accomplice of terrorists", but obviously that's not the case...There is a law on apology for terrorism. I don't know if the translation is very accurate though. It is a law trying to prevent groups from radicalizing.what is it about? like, public incitement to terrorist activity or public justification of terrorism? it will be hard to prove that Charlie Coulibaly FB status has anything to do with thatI don't really know it all that well, but the Dutch term literally translated means 'glorification of terrorism'. Maybe that's clearer? So that in itself is punishable, it's not only incitement. It is mainly directed at the recruiters of Syrian warriors, as far as I understand.As for Dieudonné, I think it has more to do with his past than merely his FB status. But I don't know, that's just my guess. Plus, he had to report to the police office and didn't go, that's why he was arrested. But he's free and awaiting trial now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
netcat Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 so what exactly did they incriminate to that Dieudonné guy? an FB status? i doubt there's a chapter in French criminal code about being the "apologist for terrorism". there is probably a chapter about "accomplice of terrorists", but obviously that's not the case...There is a law on apology for terrorism. I don't know if the translation is very accurate though. It is a law trying to prevent groups from radicalizing.what is it about? like, public incitement to terrorist activity or public justification of terrorism? it will be hard to prove that Charlie Coulibaly FB status has anything to do with thatI don't really know it all that well, but the Dutch term literally translated means 'glorification of terrorism'. Maybe that's clearer? So that in itself is punishable, it's not only incitement. It is mainly directed at the recruiters of Syrian warriors, as far as I understand.As for Dieudonné, I think it has more to do with his past than merely his FB status. But I don't know, that's just my guess. Plus, he had to report to the police office and didn't go, that's why he was arrested. But he's free and awaiting trial now.thanks for clarification, Leo. this trial will be interesting to watch for so many reasons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 . A drunk driver who caused an accident and yelled at the police that he wished there were more Kouachis and he hoped they would be next, got four years jail sentence. There have been five convictions, apparently, the drunk man being the worst. but he probably got 4 years of jail for drunk driving, no? Don't think so. He wouldn't get convicted in less than a week if it was only drunk driving.Why not, i did Well, fortnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 . A drunk driver who caused an accident and yelled at the police that he wished there were more Kouachis and he hoped they would be next, got four years jail sentence. There have been five convictions, apparently, the drunk man being the worst. but he probably got 4 years of jail for drunk driving, no? Don't think so. He wouldn't get convicted in less than a week if it was only drunk driving.Why not, i did Well, fortnight.Everything's faster the second time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Don't think so. He wouldn't get convicted in less than a week if it was only drunk driving.Why not, i did Well, fortnight.Wow, that's efficient! I'm sorry, justice here is very sluggish, so to be convicted for drunk driving within a week is barely imaginable. Maybe it's different in France, though I doubt that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Don't think so. He wouldn't get convicted in less than a week if it was only drunk driving.Why not, i did Well, fortnight.Wow, that's efficient! I'm sorry, justice here is very sluggish, so to be convicted for drunk driving within a week is barely imaginable. Maybe it's different in France, though I doubt that.It was Refusal to Provide a Specimen for Analysis so i guess it's kind of an open and shut case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 Anti-terrorist operation in Verviers, Belgium, one hour ago. Two jihadis supposedly died, another wounded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Glow Inc. Posted January 15, 2015 Share Posted January 15, 2015 I respectfully disagree with people saying Chadlie should have refrained themselves from going full retard.Only taking my example here but I'm a believer.Do you know what happens when someone mocks my beliefs ?How I feel ?I feel absolutely nothing. I'm not even peeved and I don't even wish that person would shut up because my belief is strong enough to maintain itself under all circumstances and because it doesn't need any validation from anyone.I suppose banning stuff from being said is easier than actullly reaching a place where you don't mind stuff that's been said simply because it sounds so far from your truth that it doesn't matter at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 . A drunk driver who caused an accident and yelled at the police that he wished there were more Kouachis and he hoped they would be next, got four years jail sentence. There have been five convictions, apparently, the drunk man being the worst. but he probably got 4 years of jail for drunk driving, no? Don't think so. He wouldn't get convicted in less than a week if it was only drunk driving.Why not, i did Well, fortnight.Everything's faster the second time around. You better fuckin' hope so skip cuz another week long labour and the Missus is gonna beat you to death with your own shoes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st0n3r Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 (edited) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2911271/Sister-Paris-deli-killer-Coulibaly-Booty-Therapy-dancer-aims-end-racism-medium-upside-twerking.html In other news: another hostage situation. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2913242/BREAKING-NEWS-New-Paris-hostage-terror-Gunman-claiming-armed-grenades-Kalashnikov-takes-two-people-captive-post-office.html Edited January 16, 2015 by st0n3r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 After the anti-terrorist operations yesterday, tomorrow, the army will be deployed in Antwerp (Belgium) to guard public buildings. I can hardly believe it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Scare us into submission. People tend not to question government overreach as much when they're scared. See Patriot Act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Len Cnut Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 A lad i know from France was just telling me how his old school is on lockdown, searching kids and all this kinda shit. He's from Bordeaux too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Scare us into submission. People tend not to question government overreach as much when they're scared. See Patriot Act.It's difficult when only yesterday they were able to prevent an attack by killing two and arresting one terrorist. I could live with this being a temporary measure, I suppose, but I see there's a huge risk, I'd hate it if we found this kind of 'protection' normal in the future. Armed police or soldiers give me anything but a safe feeling at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 We thought it wouldn't become the norm too. Now it's 13 years later and it's only gotten worse. Governments don't voluntarily relinquish power once they acquire it. It's pretty much never happened in the history of anything ever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 I know. It just doesn't feel right.Jewish schools were closed today and a rabbi in Brussels has asked to have two police officers in front of every Jewish building at all times, or else to allow Jews to carry weapons. Luckily, most (Jews) think this is ridiculous. I mean, police officers are now allowed to take their guns home, because they were the target. Yesterday evening, one accidentally shot in his own leg and his colleague's foot.People are using this to try and push all sort of horrible measures through, in the mean time saying we should all be calm and don't panic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Ugh.On the bright side, I'll be in Europe in March so I'm gonna feel right at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Ugh.On the bright side, I'll be in Europe in March so I'm gonna feel right at home.Manchester by any chance? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Ugh.On the bright side, I'll be in Europe in March so I'm gonna feel right at home.Meh, not in jihadi territory, I bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Ugh.On the bright side, I'll be in Europe in March so I'm gonna feel right at home.Manchester by any chance? No, unfortunately. Interestingly enough, it's a Holocaust themed trip. We'll be in Berlin, Prague, Krakow and Warsaw primarily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazey Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Sounds like the stag do I never had. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Ugh.On the bright side, I'll be in Europe in March so I'm gonna feel right at home.Manchester by any chance? No, unfortunately. Interestingly enough, it's a Holocaust themed trip. We'll be in Berlin, Prague, Krakow and Warsaw primarily.Sounds like the most depressing theme idea for a vacation ever. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magisme Posted January 16, 2015 Share Posted January 16, 2015 Ugh.On the bright side, I'll be in Europe in March so I'm gonna feel right at home.Manchester by any chance? No, unfortunately. Interestingly enough, it's a Holocaust themed trip. We'll be in Berlin, Prague, Krakow and Warsaw primarily.Sounds like the most depressing theme idea for a vacation ever.It's not a vacation. It's with the school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted January 16, 2015 Author Share Posted January 16, 2015 Ugh.On the bright side, I'll be in Europe in March so I'm gonna feel right at home.Manchester by any chance? No, unfortunately. Interestingly enough, it's a Holocaust themed trip. We'll be in Berlin, Prague, Krakow and Warsaw primarily.Sounds like the most depressing theme idea for a vacation ever. It's not a vacation. It's with the school.And you don't even like death. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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