Death Penalty for Boston Bomber

[BangoSkank]

I staunchly oppose the death penalty, but this is compelling none-the-less. Pretty surprised it went this way, to be honest.


http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/16/us/dzhokhar-tsarnaev-death-sentence.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=span-ab-top-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news&_r=0

[Georgy Zhukov]

He should have bombed Florida. He would have had a chance to go free.

[drtydane]

They should have just given him life. Would have been a death sentence anyways, and now he can be looked at as a martyr..

Fuck I'd rather die than live in solitary in a federal prison. No way they will let him out in general population.

[Georgy Zhukov]

Now the victim's families have to deal with the series of appeals that will follow his execution. Life without parole would have just allowed him to fade into obscurity.

[drtydane]

I don't think appealing after the execution would make too much sense ;-)

[Facekicker]

Should have let him rot in a small cell with his only company being a 300 pound molester named Bubba.

[BangoSkank]

The craziest part to me is that Massachusetts doesn't even have the death penalty, they had to specifically seek it out and make this a special case.

[Bumblefeet]

I'm waiting for my Rolling Stone cover to increase in value.

[dalsh327]

I think running his brother over was worth a reduced sentence. All he had to do is say his brother brainwashed him and felt he had to put his sick fuck of a brother out of his misery.

[Georgy Zhukov]

Kind of interesting tracing the history of the family. Their grandparents were forcibly removed from Chechnya along with thousands of other Chechen during the 1940's because they feared they feared they would collaborate with the Germans, even though about 40,000 of them served in The Red Army. They remained in Kyrgyzstan until his family moved to Russia then to the US. I guess the family had trouble adapting though the father tried very hard. I guess the older brother was drawn to his roots and went to Dagastan. He allegedly got into contact with some known militants and planned on moving his wife and child over there. His wife sounds like one of those "I am eighteen and I know everything" and thought it would be a great idea to experience a new culture and language. The younger brother was struggling and I guess he saw another way out.

In short, this whole thing is fucked up.

[bran]

Should have let him rot in a small cell with his only company being a 300 pound molester named Bubba.

in a perfect world.....

[DR DOOM]

I think that in clear cut cases like this the death penalty is fine.

Locking him up just costs the taxpayer money, prisons are overcrowded and there's no rehabilitation for someone like this...fuck him.

[Amir]

I think that in clear cut cases like this the death penalty is fine.

Locking him up just costs the taxpayer money, prisons are overcrowded and there's no rehabilitation for someone like this...fuck him.

More money will probably be spent on appeals, though, as Georgy pointed out.

[DR DOOM]

I think that in clear cut cases like this the death penalty is fine.

Locking him up just costs the taxpayer money, prisons are overcrowded and there's no rehabilitation for someone like this...fuck him.

More money will probably be spent on appeals, though, as Georgy pointed out.

Yeah, you're probably right.

[Axl_morris]

Is this one of those, he is sentanced to death but won't actually do it for another 18 years

[bran]

Is this one of those, he is sentanced to death but won't actually do it for another 18 years

pretty much

[magisme]

I think that in clear cut cases like this the death penalty is fine.

Supposedly clear cut cases are exactly where our moral fiber is put to the test.

We fail.

[Georgy Zhukov]

I think that in clear cut cases like this the death penalty is fine.

Locking him up just costs the taxpayer money, prisons are overcrowded and there's no rehabilitation for someone like this...fuck him.

More money will probably be spent on appeals, though, as Georgy pointed out.

Appeals are much more expensive than a life sentence. Lawyer and courtroom fees. It actually saves tax payer money if they just lock him up and throw away the key.

[netcat]

I think that in clear cut cases like this the death penalty is fine.

Supposedly clear cut cases are exactly where our moral fiber is put to the test.

We fail.

it's easy to have moral fiber when you're not affected by the tragedy

[DR DOOM]

I think that in clear cut cases like this the death penalty is fine.

Locking him up just costs the taxpayer money, prisons are overcrowded and there's no rehabilitation for someone like this...fuck him.

More money will probably be spent on appeals, though, as Georgy pointed out.

Appeals are much more expensive than a life sentence. Lawyer and courtroom fees. It actually saves tax payer money if they just lock him up and throw away the key.

A bullet is much cheaper.

[magisme]

I think that in clear cut cases like this the death penalty is fine.

Supposedly clear cut cases are exactly where our moral fiber is put to the test.

We fail.

it's easy to have moral fiber when you're not affected by the tragedy

That's exactly my point.

[Dazey]

All this "clear cut" shit is bollocks. There is a single criteria for conviction and that is "beyond reasonable doubt". You're either guilty or you're not. According to the law there's no such thing as "we're 100% certain about this one so its okay to kill them but this one is only 90% so let him just spend the rest of his life in jail". The magnitude of the punishment is based on the magnitude of the crime and not the % certainty that you did it. If there isn't sufficient conviction then there should be no conviction in the first place.

Edited May 16, 2015 by Dazey

[arnold layne]

Why have appeals when we have MYGNRFORUM.COM court?

[BangoSkank]

I think that in clear cut cases like this the death penalty is fine.

Locking him up just costs the taxpayer money, prisons are overcrowded and there's no rehabilitation for someone like this...fuck him.

More money will probably be spent on appeals, though, as Georgy pointed out.

Appeals are much more expensive than a life sentence. Lawyer and courtroom fees. It actually saves tax payer money if they just lock him up and throw away the key.

In general, a life sentence w/o parole is cheaper than the death penalty, as unimaginable as that may sound.

There are also benefits to keeping him alive and psychologically evaluating him to see if we can learn anything about terrorists, potential terrorists, sociopaths, etc. The death penalty is just man's blood lust and desire for revenge coming out in governmental form.

[Georgy Zhukov]

I think that in clear cut cases like this the death penalty is fine.

Locking him up just costs the taxpayer money, prisons are overcrowded and there's no rehabilitation for someone like this...fuck him.

More money will probably be spent on appeals, though, as Georgy pointed out.

Appeals are much more expensive than a life sentence. Lawyer and courtroom fees. It actually saves tax payer money if they just lock him up and throw away the key.

In general, a life sentence w/o parole is cheaper than the death penalty, as unimaginable as that may sound.

There are also benefits to keeping him alive and psychologically evaluating him to see if we can learn anything about terrorists, potential terrorists, sociopaths, etc. The death penalty is just man's blood lust and desire for revenge coming out in governmental form.

Honestly, I don't think this kid knows anything. Though I agree he should be studied, I mean why would he just throw his life away? Did he think he was going to flunk out so becoming a terrorist is like a better option?