s487807 Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 (edited) This is all I am going to say. when Appetite came out, I was a fan.when Illusions I & II came out, I was in sixth grade, and received them for my birthday. I listened to them over and over. When the Spagetti thing came out, I even bought that. It wasn't very good, but it was something from my favorite band. Then we had to wait. I went through high-school with nothing.I went through college, and all we got was live era. I went through law school, and got to see them in 02 in Columbus. It was a great time. Then we saw nothing for a while. Then I flew to NYC and saw one of the hammerstein shows, and I knew axl was back, and something was happening. I think we all need to realize that the tentative release date of the album is only 10 months removed from the first REAL world tour in like 10 years+. From the first hammerstein show on May 12 of this year, axl has played a ton of shows on 3 continents. Over a million people have seen them live in concert and realize how awesome GNR can still be. I still submit that there is nothing like seeing GNR live. I saw them 2 months ago in Estero, FL at one of the smaller shows, and they were still great. What I am saying is, this is just another speed bump. We have a date now. We didn't have one before. Merck is out of the picture.It's probably better for the band. GNR has been referred to recently as a family (i.e. the whole Brain, Frank thing) and I think Merck can now be seen as the cheap uncle that nobody wants a christmas card from because there's not going to be any money in it. I think we should all sit back, relax for 90 days, and see what happens in March 07. I bet it will be worth the wait. JE in Florida Edited December 15, 2006 by s487807 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howard2k Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 they're not allowed to talk about this one HereTodayGoneToCensorship....Everybody is talking about it except them. These guys on htgth are definitely on another planet.As for Merck saying that nugnr is better than gnr and CD being the best record ever made, it is probable that Merck is expecting some personal benefit (stated in his contract with Axl) if CD sells well...Its like the soviet union over there at HTGH!It's fucking unreal. It's so bad it's funny! We're now not allowed to use the word "tentative". Anyway - don't mean to bash them and derail this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aussie_axl Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 (edited) merck's trying to win back the fans while still sucking up to axl, whats the go, no one wanted anything to do with us fucking 2 weeks ago!, merck lost the fans respect years ago!, even tho he might be the fall guy, i prefer it being down to axl,and axl alone, lets see if he can finnish this monster off!.when will axl realize that HTGTH sucks ass, this place is where it's at, well if you want some honest opinions anywa!. Edited December 15, 2006 by aussie_axl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus89 Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Madison, Don't know if this has already been made clear earlier in the thread, but was this sent to you by Merck ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raodonne Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 On behalf of the censorship going on over at HTGH, can anyone re-post that really ugly picture of Jarmo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Axl Kev Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Shit man maybe we were wrong about Merck, he seems like a decent guy afterall. But what the fuck is going on and can we expect an open letter from Pitman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 so sick of this, excuse after excuse...AND As I always said, the new band can't be promoted without trying to shoot down the old. Way to go Merck, shove it up your ass, you job-less pissant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madison Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 Madison, Don't know if this has already been made clear earlier in the thread, but was this sent to you by Merck ?Yes.When Axl's letter started circulating last night, we didn't know if it was real or not. In the past, all official communications from Axl and the band were sent to us as well. This one was not, and the letter wasn't even posted at gunsroses.com. So, I asked Merck, and this was the response he provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GET OFF AXLS BACK Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Madison, Don't know if this has already been made clear earlier in the thread, but was this sent to you by Merck ?Yes.When Axl's letter started circulating last night, we didn't know if it was real or not. In the past, all official communications from Axl and the band were sent to us as well. This one was not, and the letter wasn't even posted at gunsroses.com. So, I asked Merck, and this was the response he provided.Any indecations on the next manager,sanctuary appointed or band appointed, i forget if GnR left Sanctuary as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Riot Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Fair play to Merck for replying in a simple coherent manner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickn Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 so where did axl's letter first pop up ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Riot Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 so where did axl's letter first pop up ?HTGTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA_0013 Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 And so the saga continues..........LA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flickn Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 so where did axl's letter first pop up ?HTGTHwhy doesnt he just create a name on htgth and [post something from the heart man ,its obvious that somebody else typed this shit up and put his name a the bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dassy Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Only 12 More Tuesdays Then! rock1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funeral Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 it's about time Axl fired this cock!13 Tuesdays left my ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNR'R Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 it's about time Axl fired this cock!13 Tuesdays left my ass! I love your posts Funeral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman24 Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Very good read. I somehow have now a much better opinion on Merck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appetite for illusions Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 That was a great response from Merck, but I bet hes heart broken. And he's true about the old band you know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 I don't see the point in showing us the drafts he sent to axl. Why did he add them in? So, it was a combined letter, not just from Axl??Axls letter tends to apoligiese and talks about the future.Mercks, is giving explanations to the past year.Both good reads. And exactly what we were wanting to hear. I think all the questions are answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raodonne Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 (edited) Very good read. I somehow have now a much better opinion on Merck. I dont get why so many people are getting a good vibe off Merck? He and Beta are the two most glaring additions to the GnR fold in the last half decade or so and, without question, the last half decade or so has been the least productive in the history of Guns....I mean, at least in the late 90s we actually got a Live CD and 2 (albeit shitty) singles...What are the variables introduced to the GnR equation since things started getting really wierd? Beta and Merck...Lets put 2 and 2 together....Let me add that this is NOT to say Axl is blameless and he should be relieved of all responsibility...Clearly, he needs to be making some decisions on his own....But I dont think anyone can argue that Merck and Beta have enhanced Axl's creative output....(let alone his media communication skills) Edited December 15, 2006 by raodonne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Montrealer Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Merck is a real gentlemen, this letter is all to his honnor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gallagher Rose Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 (edited) haha Go away Merck!!You fuckin' liar!!And hopefully Axl won't be lazy and will release this album..I'm not very excited,since he said he can delay the album again in March,so,he's insecure. Edited December 15, 2006 by Gallagher Rose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssiscool Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Very good read. I somehow have now a much better opinion on Merck. yeah same here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen8R Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 3 days of work? coolSo Chinese Democracy starts in 2014?A8R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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