DutchAxl*88* Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) I dont understand the complaining On dj. 2010 was great with dj, finally Someone with a normal rock-look and a really great ballad of death! That solo spot was way better than bumble, finck or whoever his solo spot. Plus since dj, the slash solo’s really sounded more like they Should sound like. Bumble, Bucket(i did enjoy buckethead) gave solo’s more of their OWN twist. Off course there is only one slash. Edited June 30, 2018 by DutchAxl*88* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 1 hour ago, zombux said: as historically active member of two hugely influential bands (GNR and NIN), I'd think he made a decent impact. guitar riffs? well... he's certainly not a guitar virtuoso. more like an excentric breaking-his-own-spine guitarist. the music in general is simply not only about guitar solos. but still, he for example did the This I Love solo, which is excellent. I think Finck wrote Better and Hand that Feeds for NIN. That’s his main contribution to stadium rock. If you are tallying up hit song credits. Which is a currency in rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 1 hour ago, zombux said: good question. I'm pretty sure these don't count at all. remember when Bumblefoot did the Pink Panther theme? he even had other GNR members playing at the studio version, but still it was considered his own thing. and we have nothing that suggests anyone else is playing on those than DJ (might be all machines). so I don't think these count as GNR. I don’t see it as GNR until it’s on an album. If latter day new Guns made an album and covered The Seeker and BOD was on it then it would be GNR. But where does that leave Silkworms? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 21 minutes ago, wasted said: I think Finck wrote Better and Hand that Feeds for NIN. That’s his main contribution to stadium rock. If you are tallying up hit song credits. Which is a currency in rock. Robin wasn't part of NIN when HTF was released. Aaron North was his fresh replacement during that time. Robin was asked by Trent to join in 2005 but Robin opted to stay in GNR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) 44 minutes ago, zombux said: Robin wasn't part of NIN when HTF was released. Aaron North was his fresh replacement during that time. Robin was asked by Trent to join in 2005 but Robin opted to stay in GNR. But he wrote that song, right? That’s the one song he gets credited with. Or was it something on The Slip. I just remember him about Hand that feeds. Edited June 30, 2018 by wasted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 4 hours ago, username said: On the downside Buckethead incorporated rubber chickens and nunchuck dances into his solo's. Now, I'm a bigger fan of herpes than I am of DJ Ashba, but that stuff that Buckethead did should never be part of a GnR gig either. That's entertainment only so many people in the world that can incorporate a nunchuck robot dance while performing a guitar solo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torb Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Well, if this means "suck as guitar player"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donny Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 29 minutes ago, Torb said: Well, if this means "suck as guitar player"... awesome ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToonGuns Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 The snare drum sounds on these leaks is absolutely terrible. Edit: The rest isn't much better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Torb said: Well, if this means "suck as guitar player"... I absolutely love the first Beautiful Creatures album! DJ was shining there. the second album without him is poor. then the first Sixx:AM album was nice, but it was more like Nikki's thing, not much space for guitars. the newer albums were fine, the most recent ones were rubbish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Minus Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 5 hours ago, zombux said: as historically active member of two hugely influential bands (GNR and NIN), I'd think he made a decent impact. guitar riffs? well... he's certainly not a guitar virtuoso. more like an excentric breaking-his-own-spine guitarist. the music in general is simply not only about guitar solos. but still, he for example did the This I Love solo, which is excellent. His Street of Dreams solo was also excellent. Zombux pretty much summed it up for me. Gashba pales significantly to any other guitarist GnR have had including Paul Tobias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Mi Amor is awful but........... 'The Ballad of Death' is beautiful, the only good thing DJ has ever done and just because he's a tool doesn't mean I won't admit TBOD is awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, oldnews said: Mi Amor is awful but........... 'The Ballad of Death' is beautiful, the only good thing DJ has ever done and just because he's a tool doesn't mean I won't admit TBOD is awesome I was thinking about it a bit and I think I prefer Mi Amor. anyway, these are just normal guitar solos... what he was doing in Beautiful Creatures was much more interesting. in GNR he was just a hired henchman (and I don't mean it bad, not at all! he just had to do his ungrateful job - that is trying to replicate Robin and also replicate how Robin replicated Slash - which is unfortunate enough) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donny Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 1 minute ago, zombux said: + includes a lot of fakes and purposedly incomplete stuff... people must be very desperate to spread such mess. i have everything on that list apart from atlas and i think its very very unlikely its the real song anyway. there was a fake going around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jabberwocky Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 I haven't been able to find jack shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, donny said: i have everything on that list apart from atlas and i think its very very unlikely its the real song anyway. there was a fake going around it is worse than that. Ballad OF Death - legit, complete Better (Ashba) - legit, complete, leaked in 2013 Better brain - legit (Better Gone), leaked in 2012, but this bunch of stuff has incomplete version (the final Josey Wales quote cut off, WHY???) better bumblefoot - legit, complete, leaked in 2013 The General leak - ??? fake Atlas - fake My World (Demo) - fake, fanmade edit of the UYI album track Silkworms - if this is the version with BBF guitar then it's legit, leaked recently Street of Dreams 2001 Demo - legit, leaked recently, missing the beginning but it leaked like that and I guess we're not getting more There Was a Time 2001 Demo - legit, leaked recntly Oh My God Leak - same as Silkworms above Better Remix - which remix??? all 3 existing remixes are already above If The World Remix - incomplete, complete version is 4:06 and has not leaked as of now, recent leak is 3:58 Mi Amor (Studio) - legit, complete, leaked recently Prostitute (BITTW) Remix - legit, complete, leaked in 2012 Shacklers Revenge Remix - legit, leaked recntly, only if it's 4:09 or 4:08 is it complete, otherwise incomplete cut The General Cellphone Recording - legit, leaked recently The General Studio Clip - fake This I Love Remix - legit, complete, leaked recntly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donny Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, zombux said: it is worse than that. Ballad OF Death - legit, complete Better (Ashba) - legit, complete, leaked in 2013 Better brain - legit (Better Gone), leaked in 2012, but this bunch of stuff has incomplete version (the final Josey Wales quote cut off, WHY???) better bumblefoot - legit, complete, leaked in 2013 The General leak - ??? fake Atlas - fake My World (Demo) - fake, fanmade edit of the UYI album track Silkworms - if this is the version with BBF guitar then it's legit, leaked recently Street of Dreams 2001 Demo - legit, leaked recently, missing the beginning but it leaked like that and I guess we're not getting more There Was a Time 2001 Demo - legit, leaked recntly Oh My God Leak - same as Silkworms above Better Remix - which remix??? all 3 existing remixes are already above If The World Remix - incomplete, complete version is 4:06 and has not leaked as of now, recent leak is 3:58 Mi Amor (Studio) - legit, complete, leaked recently Prostitute (BITTW) Remix - legit, complete, leaked in 2012 Shacklers Revenge Remix - legit, leaked recntly, only if it's 4:09 or 4:08 is it complete, otherwise incomplete cut The General Cellphone Recording - legit, leaked recently The General Studio Clip - fake This I Love Remix - legit, complete, leaked recntly agree with the above apart from the General studio clip, thats real ! i have 2 parts of the General. i have the cellphone recording-REAL and the intro used as the intro to concerts-REAL both parts come to around 3 to 3.5 minutes in total Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, donny said: agree with the above apart from the General studio clip, thats real ! i have 2 parts of the General. i have the cellphone recording-REAL and the intro used as the intro to concerts-REAL both parts come to around 3 to 3.5 minutes in total no it's not the only real thing is the cellphone clip, anything from "studio" is not real. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donny Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, zombux said: no it's not the only real thing is the cellphone clip, anything from "studio" is not real. surely the intro used at concerts would be the "studio" clip ? no vocals just the intro with crowd noise. a few have been on youtube for the past several years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 4 minutes ago, donny said: surely the intro used at concerts would be the "studio" clip ? no vocals just the intro with crowd noise. a few have been on youtube for the past several years I think the story was already been told in the General topic a few times, just get there and find it. I didn't care too much about it because it was fake and I don't keep fakes in my memory it was a really good fake though, kudos to the creator (was it evader? I think so). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donny Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, zombux said: I think the story was already been told in the General topic a few times, just get there and find it. I didn't care too much about it because it was fake and I don't keep fakes in my memory it was a really good fake though, kudos to the creator (was it evader? I think so). Evader has one on youtube with no crowd noise(fake), but what about the ones recorded by the audience ? like you point out though, The General has its own topic/thread Edited June 30, 2018 by donny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Just now, donny said: Evader has one on youtube with no crowd noise, but what about the ones recorded by the audience ? like you point out though, The General has its own topic/thread it was somehow proven that "The General intro" indeed is The General, I think someone who was in possession of the cellphone clip made some cleanups and edits and then tried matching the thing onto the intro - and was surprised that it matched perfectly. that was kind of a "proof" that the intro is/was The General. so yeah, that intro is also "legit", as much as the 2002 piano intros before November Rain were in fact legit Prostitute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted June 30, 2018 Share Posted June 30, 2018 Not going to give out a warning point over this but just an FYI: Posting links to videos with download links in the description is also not allowed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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