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BBF was a hired gun; Slash is paramount. As for the rest, apples and oranges...

Anything that's official, whether from the band or some TV shot. As far as I know.

"Slash confirmed the band had been in the studio." "Slash also revealed that the band was working on music during lockdown." "We have one more tour left to do next summer, and then that'll free us up to be able to go in and work on a new record." Yes, it’s open to interpretation, but I see this very positively. It would be weird to just release a single and start touring again instead – in terms of what he would tell the journalists later. Soon or not, it’s coming.

But then, you need to pay attention. Otherwise you’re the one perpetuating the Groundhog curse. Slash talked about a couple of singles, yes. But he also said (1) he’d worked on new music since the reunion and (2) there’d be a '23 summer tour and then work on the new record would begin. Now, none of these things suggest to me there’d never be a whole new album (and "soon" is very relative, isn't it). In fact, there may even be a couple of newly written songs! Sounds utterly foolish, I know, but I’m just going by the actual factual information we’ve gathered so far from the source itself. All these possibilities are there, the rest is just a question of probability, beliefs etc., but none of that is off the table in any case. So, these are the facts.

We can't do this (YT) here, otherwise cunts will shut us down.

Don't you try to stop us now, I just refuse!

Yeah but I think that was connected with their then relationship. The hatchet has been buried. And Ashba etc. can write whatever, but I’d presume Slash’s music isn’t something Axl would take lightly. Especially it was once so hard for him to replace him.

Nothing has become of it... yet. Cause they keep touring like maniacs and Axl is Axl. But that doesn't mean those ideas can't be used when they decide to move on. I think their position in the band was ever so slightly different from that of Slash.

Slash did say he writes music for GNR, so...

Releasing a song in 2023/24 which would be strictly about that would mean releasing a song that's basically intended exclusively for the US audience. Because no offense, but even though it was big back then, today no one outside the US would remember what the hell it was about. A lot of things have happened since... Now, if it was just inspired by it, that's a different story. Anyway, this is what we get when a band messes around with songs and keeps them on the shelf for decades instead of releasing them.

This thread now reminds me of a few years back, when all we had here were lists of the Village song mixes.

I remember when OMG was new. Hell, I remember when Spaghetti were new.

Nothing to do with the leak we know, or at least I've heard.

https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/why-foo-fighters-josh-freese-left-guns-n-roses/

I’ll love it, listening to it repeatedly, rigorously, and vigorously. Then I will come back here and start complaining about the sound of the drums, because it will suck. Then I will create a new thread, maybe even a poll, asking who do we think plays the drums – Frank/Brain/Josh. Then I will contact Frank on some social media and ask him. Upon having received the answer "That’s a question for the management," I will contact the wonderful Lebeis family with the same question. After 3 years, I’ll get "Can’t say for now". But in the meantime, we’ll have gotten Perhaps (and maybe even Atlas) too, so all will be fine, and I'll start the whole cycle again.

Both rock and pop music are sure huge businesses, but there’s way more money in the latter now. Instant stars who sometimes don’t even write their own music, as simple as it is. In rock, you need a bunch of talented guys who take years to get really good and have all kinds of attitudes and won’t just cater to some goddamn manager who only sees it as another opportunity to milk. Shallow stuff, like in many other aspects of today’s so-called culture. But you’ll always spot the difference where it really matters: - Smoke on the Water, Jumping Jack Flash, or Sweet Child O’ Mine have been known for decades and will be known for even longer in the future. - Now name or even sing one song from any of the current pop stars’ album from five years ago. See? That’s the difference. And that’s the real bottom line.

But it doesn't harm it either, does it? I like how you used the word 'brand'.

Charts don't really matter any more; pop shit has taken over a long time ago, and now they're full of Cyruses and GaGas and rappers. I couldn't give a damn.

TB are slick, but not this shrewd to pull this just to create buzz inconspicuously. Seems like we're really getting the legendary one.

I've always believed in The General!

- "Once again", as if "it’s already been established", yeah, no. It’s just an opinion, bud. The reality was different according to my ears. Especially towards the end of that tour, but we’re mainly talking about long-term consequences here. - And yes, combined with the subsequent nonsensically long tour, it got worse. But thinking the AC tour didn’t do anything to his throat is just misguided and... absurd, in my eyes. Again, also just an opinion. - There’s this almost fanatical opinion that Axl’s voice deterioration is strictly based on whether or not he uses a vocal coach. One could ask why he, a professional, would deliberately sound the way he sounds (and he's not deaf, is he) and audibly suffer when all he’d had to do is take an occasional hour or two with a coach, especially considering we know he does vocal exercises. Wouldn’t the fact he just can't be expected to handle such strain as AC/DC in his age make way, and I mean way much more sense? He used that coach to handle the extreme AC stuff. After that, he went back to his material, which mostly doesn’t need as much power, and clearly started preserving his voice. But the slope had already begun – due to that wear and tear from 2016. There’s no way he could handle singing like that for several years in a row. Plus most Guns songs are written for a medium rasp which he didn’t do that much in the first place even before AC. In any case, this definitely is not "it’s just simply this and that" case. It’s a combination of all of the above, but AC/DC took a fucking toll, as awesome as it was (and all we got is one or two pro-shot videos of single songs ffs).

He’s already permanently damaged his voice with AC/DC seven years ago, and it’s been showing ever since 2018, if not earlier. Which is why I don’t understand why they have to keep doing the same tour (7th year now), and playing 3+ hour shows. Yes, it’s nice for the fans, but they’re not getting any younger, and tempus fugit... I just hope he’ll continue adjusting the playlists accordingly, like he seems to have done now (with some unreasonable exceptions).

I definitely praise the inclusion of low-register songs and ditching Better, i.e. Axl finally reacting to his current possibilities. Which is, by the same token, raising the question why on earth he insists on doing SoD and TIL, which sound horrible. He's not gonna drop stuff like RQ, but these two should go, at least for now, or at least they could alternate with something else. It's like he's constantly trying to prove something to someone.

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/guns-n-roses/2023/park-hayarkon-tel-aviv-israel-7ba6a6b4.html

Damn, didn't notice! That settles it then. Cool, must have missed that one. Perhaps it is then.