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Elaborate on what exactly?

He said it on Reddit a few years ago.

The fact that evader got his version so close to the real thing makes it even more embarrassing that Fernando referred to his version as “raw sewage.”

I think at some point between the 2008 forum visits and the 2010 Vienna party they both got combined into one song. Someone must’ve told Axl “these both sound so similar that they might as well be one song.” They both have the same “spooky” beltrami orchestration anyways, and we know he worked on both, back when (Soul) Monster(s) was called Leave Me Alone.

Yeah I remember that. I should’ve listened to you. My bad!

No, it was Me & My Elvis, but we all assumed that was Soul Monster cause back in 2008 Axl said that Elvis and the Monster of Soul was an alternate title for Leave Me Alone/ Soul Monster.

I don’t think I hear a sitar in either The General/ Monsters nor any of those soundchecks, so I wonder wtf Fortus was talking about. Must be Atlas. As for what “the soundcheck song” is, I’m gonna assume Seven (especially since Fortus supposedly told a fan that Seven is really Circus Maximus combined with D-Tune). It also kinda sounds like the ending part of Berlin/Oklahoma. Maybe Atlas, Seven, and Berlin are all still in the pipeline?

That reminds me of when the locker leaks were happening and I jokingly referred to the unnamed Tommy demo as motormouth (based on an old fake title) and everyone started acting like that was the actual title. Thankfully we know now that it’s really 10%er.

Ides of March was mentioned by Dave Dominguez, who worked as an engineer for the band in the late 90s, and also mentioned by Dizzy. His description of it sounds like Circus Maximus, which is also a Roman title, but apparently Fortus told a fan recently that Seven is actually Circus Maximus combined with D-Tune (which also makes sense, since Brain said Seven was inspired by Julius Caesar). I don’t remember who mentioned Beta’s Barn, but it was definitely someone close to the band like Pitman or something. Izzy mentioned Down By the Ocean in a rare 2001 interview as being one of a handful of songs he and Duff worked on for Axl in 1995. Axl later mentioned the song, adding that it was indeed an Izzy track, in his 2008 forum visits. A lot of people assume it’s really Box from Izzy’s 2007 album Fire. A few years ago someone found the 1995 tape, but TB took it from them before they could leak it.

I think Leave Me Alone became Elvis Presley and the Monster of Soul which became Soul Monster which became Monsters which became part of The General, and Me & My Elvis was always a different song.

For whoever may be curious, I have a new ranking of all the canon films and shows of the franchise on my blog, strictly based on first impressions from when I first saw each entry: http://henrynsilva.blogspot.com/2023/10/ranking-star-wars-based-on-first.html?m=1

SIDE A 1.Hard Skool 2.Absurd 3.Perhaps 4.The General and Monsters SIDE B 5.Atlas Shrugged 6.Berlin 7.Seven 8.Quick Song (renamed to No Words to excuse the gibberish) Just put that out and call it an EP. I would throw others in there like Curly Shuffle and Me & My Elvis, but I don’t think any of those actually have vocals. State of Grace’s vocal track is not good enough to warrant a release. Eye On You grew on me but it doesn’t fit the GnR vibe. Nothing is just a sketch. Cuban Skies probably has vocals but I bet it’s stupid.

Axl didn’t specify what song it was in.

Now that I’ve had time to digest both songs, I think The General is catchier. I still like Monsters too though.

So we now have five songs from cd2: Hard Skool (Jackie Chan/ Checkmate/ No Love Remains/ Hard School) Absurd (Silkworms) Perhaps The General Monsters (Leave Me Alone/ Elvis Presley & the Monster of Soul/ Soul Monster) Hopefully we also get Atlas, Seven and Berlin (Oklahoma) at some point.

Yeah I think leave me alone/Elvis and the monster of soul/soul monster really became monsters and got grouped with the general, and me & my Elvis is a different (never to be finished) song. @Sweersais probably right though that monstrosity is something different.

He still got pretty close, all things considered.

Oh yeah. Forgot about that.

So I guess Monsters really is Leave Me Alone/ Elvis Presley & the Monster of Soul/ Soul Monster after all (and possibly also Monstrosity), which means Me & My Elvis from the locker leaks must’ve been a different song that never got vocals added to it (sadly).

They both rock

Good they also confirmed that The General will still be the b-side. One of the rumors was that it had been removed. Hopefully Monsters is still part of it.

It’s scary how close Evader got…

The second episode fell pretty flat, yeah, but the fourth episode is very solid.

I can’t believe I’m saying this, but Loki season 2 is actually pretty damn good (tho I think that mostly has to do with the fact that they changed writers in between seasons).

That’s how it’s listed on ASCAP (songwriting credits database).