Georgy Zhukov Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Oz would've benefited from more turnover of characters. Most of the main ones become boring halfway through.Miguel Alvarez and Adebisi benefited greatly from leaving early. I wish Miguel would've stayed gone. Poet too, as before his release he was a really cool surreal voice in the show and afterwards he was just another thug in Emerald City. I also wish the Beecher-Keller-Schillinger arc hadn't lasted till the end because frankly for the most part it was not a good story. I think the writers tried to make it a point that nothing changes and nobody escapes, same as in the Wire, but in The Wire it was done with a lot more flair, while in Oz it came across to me as a bit blunt and amateurish. There was no feeling of finality, no arc (except for seasons 1 and 4.1 which are by some distance the best) and that almost invariably drags a tv drama down.Still, considering it was HBO's first attempt at a one hour drama it was really good and it started an extremely impressive run.I can see that the storyline is starting to drag. Such as Beecher-Keller-Shillinger. I am getting tired of it. But HBO has learned from the show's flaws. I think they were just competing with primetime shows at the time except they can throw in more violence, sex, nudity and issues that were too sensitive for the time.I can see this going nowhere until season six, but I will keep watching until the end. At least in The Sopranos they stir things up. Whether it is Ralphie, Blundetto or New York City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 One of the problems that OZ had was the fact that it had these weird stories that cropped up which made absolutely no sense......and then went nowhere with them. The prime example was when the inmates were allowed to take part in an anti-aging drug experiment. Stupid, stupid storyline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bellastar2355 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 One of the problems that OZ had was the fact that it had these weird stories that cropped up which made absolutely no sense......and then went nowhere with them. The prime example was when the inmates were allowed to take part in an anti-aging drug experiment. Stupid, stupid storyline.I totally agree with that! I hated that storylineand I thought that death row photoshoot was pretty silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 One of the problems that OZ had was the fact that it had these weird stories that cropped up which made absolutely no sense......and then went nowhere with them. The prime example was when the inmates were allowed to take part in an anti-aging drug experiment. Stupid, stupid storyline.There was just so much going on in the series is why it intrigued me, completely fit the prison type of environment. Some storylines were borderline lame but I think we can all agree that the series started to spiral down when Adebisi got killed. He was my favorite character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 One of the problems that OZ had was the fact that it had these weird stories that cropped up which made absolutely no sense......and then went nowhere with them. The prime example was when the inmates were allowed to take part in an anti-aging drug experiment. Stupid, stupid storyline.There was just so much going on in the series is why it intrigued me, completely fit the prison type of environment. Some storylines were borderline lame but I think we can all agree that the series started to spiral down when Adebisi got killed. He was my favorite character."ADEBISI LIVES!!!!! *STAB-STAB-STAB*Was a completely badass moment - one of the highlights of the whole show for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 One of the problems that OZ had was the fact that it had these weird stories that cropped up which made absolutely no sense......and then went nowhere with them. The prime example was when the inmates were allowed to take part in an anti-aging drug experiment. Stupid, stupid storyline.There was just so much going on in the series is why it intrigued me, completely fit the prison type of environment. Some storylines were borderline lame but I think we can all agree that the series started to spiral down when Adebisi got killed. He was my favorite character."ADEBISI LIVES!!!!! *STAB-STAB-STAB*Was a completely badass moment - one of the highlights of the whole show for me.Yeah, such an epic scene all around.Man I miss the good ol shows HBO used to produce. They are good now but I don't think they are generally as good as Oz, Deadwood, and Six Feet Under were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bellastar2355 Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 (edited) One of the problems that OZ had was the fact that it had these weird stories that cropped up which made absolutely no sense......and then went nowhere with them. The prime example was when the inmates were allowed to take part in an anti-aging drug experiment. Stupid, stupid storyline.There was just so much going on in the series is why it intrigued me, completely fit the prison type of environment. Some storylines were borderline lame but I think we can all agree that the series started to spiral down when Adebisi got killed. He was my favorite character. They messed up with O' Reliey though. He was such an interesting character.. but once he fell in love with the nurse, his character kinda sucked in my opinion Edited April 24, 2013 by bellastar2355 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 One of the problems that OZ had was the fact that it had these weird stories that cropped up which made absolutely no sense......and then went nowhere with them. The prime example was when the inmates were allowed to take part in an anti-aging drug experiment. Stupid, stupid storyline.There was just so much going on in the series is why it intrigued me, completely fit the prison type of environment. Some storylines were borderline lame but I think we can all agree that the series started to spiral down when Adebisi got killed. He was my favorite character. They messed up with O' Reliey though. He was such an interesting character.. but once he fell in love with the nurse, his character kinda sucked in my opinion O'Reily was a badass, but he was a sucker for a woman while serving a life sentence. Can't blame him though. He was probably my 2nd fav next to Schillenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GivenToFly Posted April 24, 2013 Share Posted April 24, 2013 Oz gave us Keller, Said and Adebisi, three of the greatest characters in tv history so there's that. Whatever shortcomings it may have had, I'm willing to forgive them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LightningBolt Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 I'm not sure if this was discussed anywhere yet, but Guillermo Del Toro and HBO are apparently planning on creating a TV series based on the manga (Japanese comic books, essentially) Monster.Link.Now I know that Japanese manga/anime tend to have a pretty bad reputation among people that don't know much about them, but I think this could be pretty successful in the west given the source material. I'm just not sure about Del Toro's style fitting the series. But it really is a great story that doesn't suffer from any of the cliches generally associated with the medium. If this live-action adaptation can be as good as the anime adaptation, then I'm very excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bellastar2355 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 About Time Funniest show ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Started watching the first episode of OZ at work. Made it about 15 minutes before a dudes ass was on the screen so I figured that wasn't the best place to check it out I'll stick to Arrested Development I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 I am fighting every urge not to click on spoiler tags. I am happy people like Said, I thought he wasn't going to be liked. Adebesi is something else though.I almost puked when that disgusting CO who banged McManus and O'Riley took off her shirt. Did not need to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 She later sends Keller to the infirmary with a busted face! She's a psycho! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManetsBR Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Is this series AD good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Is this series AD good?Arrested Development? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 She later sends Keller to the infirmary with a busted face! She's a psycho!Claire is her name. I can't stand her. I am happy Gloria is back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bellastar2355 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 I am fighting every urge not to click on spoiler tags. I am happy people like Said, I thought he wasn't going to be liked. Adebesi is something else though.I almost puked when that disgusting CO who banged McManus and O'Riley took off her shirt. Did not need to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 She later sends Keller to the infirmary with a busted face! She's a psycho!Claire is her name. I can't stand her. I am happy Gloria is back.Yeah, Claire Howell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 What's with all the Chinese people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PappyTron Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Just another stupid storyline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgy Zhukov Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 What the fuck were these writers on? Its a fucking soap opera now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bellastar2355 Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 What the fuck were these writers on? Its a fucking soap opera now.What part are you at though? Cause there are still some really good moments after season 4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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