bran Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Dear Sabbath Fans and Fellow Musicians,I sincerely regret to inform you that after a final effort to participate in the upcoming Sabbath shows a failure to agree has continued. At this time I have to inform you that I won’t be playing with Black Sabbath at the Birmingham gig dated May 19th, 2012, nor will I be playing at Download on June 10th, 2012. Further, I will not be playing at Lollapalooza on August 3, 2012.It is with a very sad heart that I bring you this news. I am sincerely passionate in my desire to play with the band, and I’m very, very sorry that it’s fallen to this. This statement is even more painstaking to write, as I was particularly excited to play alongside Tony Iommi after the recent treatments he underwent. I wanted that to become a reality....continued.To express my thoughts about you, the Sabbath fans, I’m going to speak to you all through an experience my brother James had recently. My brother Jimmy lives in the U.K. When speaking with him a couple of days ago, he told me that an acquaintance had stopped him on the street and confronted him, “is your brother playing Birmingham? What’s going on? I waited in line with my son and paid x amount for the concert tickets.”The man’s son is a young drummer. He’s going to see Sabbath, and he wants to see Bill Ward play drums. Upon hearing this news, I felt horrible. I couldn’t help feeling some resentment towards the failure to reach an agreement, the failure to remember where we came from, the failure to be as brothers, as we once were. To be clear, I’m not blaming the other guys or finding any faults with them. I would think it can’t be easy for them either, but this situation is just really sad. It’s sad that it’s come to this. “This” will surely leave a mark and be unwelcome to the memory. Hopefully “this” will heal and pass in time.My heart sank when Jimmy told me about this young boy. I know this boy is going to be disappointed, and I don’t know how to amend it, other than to put my arms around the boy and tell him I love him. Sabbath fans have a voice and a face, to me you’re human, you have families and despair. You have ferocity and emotions and graciousness, and at this moment as far as I’m concerned you are also that young boy in England. I don’t know how to amend my part in these failings other than to put my arms around you and say I love you and let you know I’m very, very sorry.Throughout this process, which began over a year ago, I have had to stand up for myself time and time again. I have had to stand up for myself and in doing so realize my actions indirectly, although unintentionally, are upsetting and hurting a lot of you. I know in my heart I couldn’t have done these concerts by agreeing the terms suggested. I made a solemn vow after the last European and Ozzfest concerts that I would never again enter into what was, in my opinion, a totally unsatisfactory contract. I have to stand for something, and as painful as it is, I’m doing it.Earlier in April 2012, I’d been asked to participate “minimally” in the Download festival. I believe I’d been offered no more than three songs to play while another drummer presumably played the rest of the show with Black Sabbath. I was not willing to participate in that offer. I was not prepared to watch another drummer play a Sabbath set, while I was to play only three songs.I found out about the Birmingham gig on Monday, April 30 through the Internet ad. I was taken aback somewhat by the date, and the fact it was Birmingham. Knowing the “signable” contract negotiations were at best in shreds, I was upset by the idea that the band was going to play Birmingham and play it assumedly without me. I had no prior knowledge of the date and location, and I felt totally excluded. We contacted the representative for Black Sabbath to see if something could be worked out. In the meantime my drum crew and I, along with our US endorsers, finished all the necessary planning for a swift departure to the UK. There wasn’t a whole lot to complete; we’d all been on standby more or less since mid-January 2012. The remaining work in the UK was confirmed done by our European and UK endorsers and we were good to go by Friday, May 4 2012. There were two stress points: firstly, getting an agreement in place, and secondly, getting to England in a timely manner. Jetlag time was taken into account as well as drum practice, a drum practice room in the heart of Birmingham, accommodation, and travel arrangements were all in place to meet with any band rehearsals that may have transpired before the Birmingham show. So far everything that had been arranged was on my dime, but we didn’t move ahead without a realistic confirmation.Communications between the representative and my lawyer continued through the weekend of May 5 finalizing on Wednesday, May 9. The offer we received on May 9 was, “come to the UK, play for free and see how the first show goes.” I was tempted. Playing for free would not have been a problem for me, but “seeing how the first show goes” left an element of risk which could have affected Download. My ideal thought was to play in full the Birmingham show, in full Download, and in full Lollapalooza.I had notified the representative that May 10 was my cutoff day in order to have good lead-in time for England. On the night of May 9 I asked for a brief letter to be sent to the representative asking to find out if we were at an end. On the morning of Thursday, May 10, I received a reply in the affirmative. After consulting with my advisors and crew a decision was made to let go and stop.I can’t prioritize the Sabbath fans making one show more important than the other. I can’t do that. All of you are important. It’s all the gigs or none at all. I can’t come to Birmingham and “see what happens” knowing there is a risk of not being able to play Download or Lollapalooza. Again, for me, it’s all or nothing. I had to say “no” to Birmingham on the principle of wanting to play all the shows. Saying no to Birmingham is very difficult for me. My family grew up in Birmingham. Black Sabbath grew up in Birmingham. It’s still my hometown and I resent having to arrive at such a difficult choice.Although the statement was made that, “the door is always open” for me, as explained above, walking through that door is not always as easy as it sounds. There are many complicated issues and unseen and unspoken agendas on hand. I can assure you, my criteria for a “signable” contract is based in mindful principles, respectability, and acknowledgement of my history within the band.I hold no malice or resentment towards the other band members. I love them; I’m tolerant of them; I’m frustrated with them, as they may be with me. My fight has never been with them. I’ll love them forever. In my opinion, nobody wins this time; the band doesn’t win; the fans for an original lineup don’t win. Nobody wins, nobody. Even the ones who thought they did.I didn’t want to make this decision, but I have to be honest and transparent. This is the statement I didn’t want to write; it’s the last thing I wanted to do. But, I have written it, and now it can go into the universe.Since Spring of 2011, I’ve waited patiently and hopefully for a signable contract, you know the rest. I stand for the boy in the U.K., for the coming drum student, for all the drummers, who write their parts out and get stiffed on the publishing, I stand with the Sabbath fans chanting “Bill Ward” and asking “why?” and I stand with Tony and Geezer and Ozzy.On a final note, even though I’m at an end with the upcoming announced concerts, I will remain with an open mind and a position of willingness to negotiate "signable" terms with Sabbath’s representatives in the future.Stay strong.Stay safe.With all my heart and strength, I love you,Bill WardFollowing on a separate page is a thank you message to some very extraordinary people.http://www.billward.com/thanks/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prez Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 So this is all Sharon's fault, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strange Broue Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 So this is all Sharon's fault, right?yesThis is a huge disrespect for Bill Ward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 So this is all Sharon's fault, right?there were rumors she tried to replace bill during the last reunion and now that ozzy has 50% of the sabbath name wouldnt surprise me if that greedy money grubbing bitch had something to do with it IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kill Devil Hill Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I can't blame Bill at all. Rather than blaming anyone, actually, I'll just keep my fingers crossed that they'll work this out. I realize time's running short, but I'll keep that little candle of hope lit. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Bill Ward is one of those guys who is essential to the Sabbath sound, it is just not going to be the same without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerage5 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Bill Ward is one of those guys who is essential to the Sabbath sound, it is just not going to be the same without him.Vinny Appice argues otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted May 16, 2012 Author Share Posted May 16, 2012 Bill Ward is one of those guys who is essential to the Sabbath sound, it is just not going to be the same without him.Vinny Appice argues otherwise.yeah vinnie was an awesome replacement, but bill ward is still the best, cozy powell would have been a great replacement but he is gone as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Bill Ward is one of those guys who is essential to the Sabbath sound, it is just not going to be the same without him.Vinny Appice argues otherwise.I dig Vinny but Bill takes the cake for me. But I will say that Vinny did a fantastic job though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dalsh327 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I think Sharon's minimally involved, keep in mind she did a free Ozzfest tour a few years ago, and she sued Iommi so they could split the merchandising 4 ways. I think it's coming from Tony and Geezer's managers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Death Star Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 So Sharon is the Black Sabbath Yoko? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevelle Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 What does anyone in the Sabbath camp hold against Ward, though? Ever since this started I've been trying to figure that out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewbacca Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Poor young drummer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Thats it, blame the woman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Thats it, blame the woman No need for rolleyes, in this case it's most likely true. Sharon taints everything she touches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Len B'stard Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Of course she does, as did Yoko, Patsy Kensit, Nancy Spungen or any other female that ever had the misfortune of the company of rock stars. Cuz hey, they can't be wrong right, no one that makes good music can ever really be wrong. Ozzy is clearly a lost wandering child thats totally controlled and manipulated by dear ol' Sharon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 Of course she does, as did Yoko, Patsy Kensit, Nancy Spungen or any other female that ever had the misfortune of the company of rock stars. Cuz hey, they can't be wrong right, no one that makes good music can ever really be wrong. Ozzy is clearly a lost wandering child thats totally controlled and manipulated by dear ol' Sharon.Talking ONLY about Sharon. And yes, if you've followed Ozzy for any length of time it's pretty apparent how much Sharon guides Ozzy in everything he does. Lord knows he needs it most of the time. Unfortunately because of her management style, this puts the pair of them in direct conflict with a lot of Oz's peers. This isn't the first time something like this has happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheapJon Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 have you guys seen the website?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bran Posted May 19, 2012 Author Share Posted May 19, 2012 have you guys seen the website?...yeah it is despicable what they have done cutting bill out of all the old pics and stuff sad that these people that are supposed brothers stab their brother in the back like this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Bill or no Bill, the recording from the warmup gig is great. Ozzy sounds really good, too.Also, not sure why people are shitting all over Sharon - until someone shows me evidence that it's in any way her fault, I have nothing against her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrandyk Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 Geezer has come out and said that Bill's people were being ridiculous with their requests.http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/general_music_news/black_sabbath_bill_wards_demands_were_a_joke.html?no_takeover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 It's getting to the point of "he said - he said", but I really don't know who to believe anymore. Being as big a fan as I am, and with Tony's state, it's really sad to see the way this thing is turning out, especially with how big it could have been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 (edited) Bill thinks he's good enough to play the entire set and doesn't want to take the risk of being replaced should his drumming not be adequate anymoreTony, Geezer and Ozzy don't want to take that risk, were willing to give him a try and see how it went, while keeping someone backstage who could fill in if need beI have to side with the 3 guys on this one. Reunion or not, if you're incapable of sufficiently doing something as important to the structure of the song as drumming is, you can't play the show. Edited May 24, 2012 by bacardimayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sabbath Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 I think what matters to me most is the album. Tommy, regardless of being awesome, is most likely going to end up being the drummer of Black Sabbath's new album, when it should be Bill Ward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bacardimayne Posted May 24, 2012 Share Posted May 24, 2012 I hadn't even thought of that. Definite bummer if that's the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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