Jurassic World [SPOILERS]

[bacardimayne]

Rewatched it. I'll be the first to say that it really is not a good movie at all, but it's a great Jurassic Park fan service experience.

[arnold layne]

I guarantee you it will be a better movie than the next Star Wars.

[AtariLegend]

Wasn't fond. You know immediately from the start who will and who won't die.

Too many references to Jurassic Park and the ending is actually a hybrid of the original and J3. It actually comes across lazy.

I remember watching the original and Lost World in the Cinema and enjoying them, don't get why the dinosaurs looked more real in the 90's than they do now . The crow that flies over the house at the start looks like standard CGI too, I don't get why they couldn't just film an actual bird. Also all the side plots and standard kids with their parents getting divorced, just too copied. Not really relevant to the story other than pretending that characters actually have backstories.

I actually would have liked to see a Jurassic Park IV, despite III. That didn't mean I wanted too see a standard Hollywood-ized remake with more CGI.

Just my opinion.

[Apollo]

Saying "So American" usually = Douchebag.

Bro, hating on anything American just proves that one is at a higher intelligence level than us dumb redneck overweight Muricans.

Americans are all rednecks who love the Kardashains and think that Michael Bay is God. We have no taste, creativity or talent in any entertainment industry.

Didn't you know that?

[DieselDaisy]

So basically America has carte blanche to produce dreadful films forever more or we run the risk of the American people getting all patriotic and Palinish for some odd reason about these cgi superhero franchise turds and playing the ''anti American'' card whenever a non-American points out that they are ghastly. Heck, if my country's cinema was as dire as America's right now I would be personally ashamed. I would look on it as a personal stain on my country's integrity, that we are not matching the masterpieces emanating from Korea and Japan.

[Black Sabbath]

Being ashamed of your country's cinema? Really? Lol

[DieselDaisy]

Being ashamed of your country's cinema? Really? Lol

When you have reached as low as Hollywood has, there is a lot to be ashamed of.

[AtariLegend]

Heck, if my country's cinema was as dire as America's right now

Proportionally judging Hollywood on Superhero flicks is like judging the UK on "The Inbetweeners 2". Keith Lemon and BBC big screen productions featuring characters from Asian TV shows no one watches.

[DieselDaisy]

Well I am generalising when I use the term 'superhero'. If it is Hollywood it is going to be either a superhero film, a reboot, a remake, or some combination of the aforementioned three. It will also have appalling CGI effects.

[Dr. Who]

It's not like all we produce here are action films. Cerebral people watch the cerebral films, and they are made. Categorizing a film as "so American" because it's fun is quite insulting.

[Dan H.]

I watched the movie today.

Overall, I enjoyed it. My criticisms are mostly in the character development realm. It felt like they tried to thrown in some random character points that never got an arc. (the divorce, the mother aunt relationship, the kids, the romance) it seemed like they were all shuffled in and never elaborate on. So I guess I get the claims of sexism with the main female character, but it didn't feel sexist, it just felt like she got no arc and she was a really hollow one dimensional character.

I thought they could have elaborated more on the events between JP and JP 4 that lead to the theme park being open, and I thought the whole "weaponzing dinosaurs" thing could have either been entirely erased from the movie, or could have been made to be a little bit more self aware or ironic.

Other than some minor annoyances that could be considered nitpicky, I had a lot of fucking fun watching the movie.

(SPOILER)

My BIGGEST CRITICISM is that the coolest scene, the climax fight, was shot in the dark. Just like Godzilla. If you're gonna make a bad ass Dino fight, make it clear and crisp. I could barely see what was happening.

SO, I'll eat my shit in this thread, backtrack, and say I was wrong to assume this movie would suck. It was a lot of fun, kept a simple but effective plot together, and when it dove into ridiculousness, it didn't try to take itself too seriously.

I'm gonna going to latch myself onto Trevorrow's dick like Tyler Smith (<3), but it was a cool movie and is better than both The Lost World and JP 3.

Edited June 27, 2015 by Dan H.

[Dan H.]

Being ashamed of your country's cinema? Really? Lol

When you have reached as low as Hollywood has, there is a lot to be ashamed of.

Okay okay, but America makes a LOT of movies. And some of them are really fantastic and ground breaking masterpieces, and some of them are "Hollywood"(whatever that means, since almost all movies are made or produced in L.A.) schlock.

I mean, big budget block busters will always rule the box office, because that's what they're made to do.

But I ain't ever gonna be ashamed of American cinema... Because sorry, America makes the best movies.

[DieselDaisy]

Being ashamed of your country's cinema? Really? Lol

When you have reached as low as Hollywood has, there is a lot to be ashamed of.

Okay okay, but America makes a LOT of movies. And some of them are really fantastic and ground breaking masterpieces, and some of them are "Hollywood"(whatever that means, since almost all movies are made or produced in L.A.) schlock.

I mean, big budget block busters will always rule the box office, because that's what they're made to do.

But I ain't ever gonna be ashamed of American cinema... Because sorry, America makes the best movies.

If you believe that, you know nothing about film.

[Dan H.]

Being ashamed of your country's cinema? Really? Lol

When you have reached as low as Hollywood has, there is a lot to be ashamed of.

Okay okay, but America makes a LOT of movies. And some of them are really fantastic and ground breaking masterpieces, and some of them are "Hollywood"(whatever that means, since almost all movies are made or produced in L.A.) schlock.

I mean, big budget block busters will always rule the box office, because that's what they're made to do.

But I ain't ever gonna be ashamed of American cinema... Because sorry, America makes the best movies.

If you believe that, you know nothing about film.

Enlighten me.

[Apollo]

So basically America has carte blanche to produce dreadful films forever more or we run the risk of the American people getting all patriotic and Palinish for some odd reason about these cgi superhero franchise turds and playing the ''anti American'' card whenever a non-American points out that they are ghastly. Heck, if my country's cinema was as dire as America's right now I would be personally ashamed. I would look on it as a personal stain on my country's integrity, that we are not matching the masterpieces emanating from Korea and Japan.

Seriously?

Yes. Any country can put out whatever movies they want.

I'm not getting patriotic over a movie. Just get tired of non-Americans constantly shitting on anything Americans do and almost always having to throw in idiotic insults that generalize hundreds of millions of people.

You are a smart guy. Surely you can see the difference.

1 sick and tired of Hollywood crapping out stupid movies

2 sick and tired of Hollywood crapping out stupid movies. But Americans are so stupid, blah, blah , dumb Americans don't know real art, blah, blah.

It's Ok to insult Americans and wrap them all into one stereotypical ball. But that doesn't fly if you do it to another country.

And the same is true when people respond.

If I respond in any kind of defense of something USA related, guys like you will chime in with the stupid Palin comments. But if I said something negative about Norway or Canada, you wouldn't make fun when the posters from their defended their country.

You don't like Hollywood movies? Nobody is forcing you to watch them. You don't like American big budget movies? Don't watch them.

Save your money. Don't flow anything American. Movies, music, medicine, inventions, etc. Fuck them!!!! Just follow what your country does.

If Your country is kicking ass in terms of quality entertainment then why invest any emotion or time into what is going on in another country?

I see you spending way more time bitching about American related entertainment and culture than I see you sharing all the great things your country has to offer.

But I guess it's more fun to just bash American related issues. Makes you more intelligent and sophisticated than us dumb rednecks who like to go watch an action or super hero movie every once in awhile. Damn stupid Americans.

Being ashamed of your country's cinema? Really? Lol

When you have reached as low as Hollywood has, there is a lot to be ashamed of.

Okay okay, but America makes a LOT of movies. And some of them are really fantastic and ground breaking masterpieces, and some of them are "Hollywood"(whatever that means, since almost all movies are made or produced in L.A.) schlock.

I mean, big budget block busters will always rule the box office, because that's what they're made to do.

But I ain't ever gonna be ashamed of American cinema... Because sorry, America makes the best movies.

If you believe that, you know nothing about film.

Thank you for proving my point.

Being ashamed of your country's cinema? Really? Lol

When you have reached as low as Hollywood has, there is a lot to be ashamed of.

Okay okay, but America makes a LOT of movies. And some of them are really fantastic and ground breaking masterpieces, and some of them are "Hollywood"(whatever that means, since almost all movies are made or produced in L.A.) schlock.

I mean, big budget block busters will always rule the box office, because that's what they're made to do.

But I ain't ever gonna be ashamed of American cinema... Because sorry, America makes the best movies.

Great post Dan.

There is a reason non-Americans bash everything that happens in the US. When you are in fact number one or near the top - haters will bash anything you do.

There is a reason they aren't on here bashing Iranian or the polish cinema experience (while also calling their entire population of people stupid).

These guys spend more time bashing America than they do sharing positive stories about their own countries outputs. Kind of funny to watch.

[DieselDaisy]

Being ashamed of your country's cinema? Really? Lol

When you have reached as low as Hollywood has, there is a lot to be ashamed of.

Okay okay, but America makes a LOT of movies. And some of them are really fantastic and ground breaking masterpieces, and some of them are "Hollywood"(whatever that means, since almost all movies are made or produced in L.A.) schlock.

I mean, big budget block busters will always rule the box office, because that's what they're made to do.

But I ain't ever gonna be ashamed of American cinema... Because sorry, America makes the best movies.

If you believe that, you know nothing about film.

Enlighten me.

The onus is on you here to prove me wrong. NB we are discussing films from the last twenty years. My argument is that American films of the Hollywood persuasion of the last twenty years are (almost all) shite. Now between Spiderman 9 and Jurassic Retirement Home, show me a masterpiece. Alright, let's forget the term 'masterpiece' because it will scare off art haters. Show me even a Hollywood blockbuster of the calibre of Raiders of the Lost Arc, Aliens or Terminator? Hollywood is shit even within the context of its customary 'popcorn action films' which is the type of language used to defend these films. In contrast, I can produce countless examples which prove Japanese, Italian and French cinema is superior.

Apollo, none of this really applies since I have established it is American films of a certain era, our era. I mean christ, if you stick Cary Grant, Bogart or Jimmy Stewart in there and rewind to the '40s or '50s, I am as pro American (cinema) as anyone.

[ZoSoRose]

Oh my god, Diesel, just shut up!

Hollywood movies that are really good or critically acclaimed in the past 10 years?

The Avengers, Spider-Man 2, Toy Story 3, Casino Royal, Skyfall, X-Men: Days of Future Past, Up, Mad Max: Fury Road, Star Trek, The Dark Knight, District 9, Interstellar, Avatar, Inception, Looper, Wreck it Ralph, Wall-E, Gravity, Guardians of the Galaxy...

Yes, Raiders of the Lost Arc, Jaws, Terminator, Star Wars, Back to the Future, etc are timeless masterpieces. Yes, Hollywood also releases a lot of shit.

You know what else? Hollywood released just as much shit, if not more in the 70s, 80s, and 90s.

To say all blockbuster movies nowadays suck is ignorant, though. Your taste might just suck, though.

[Angelica]

Seriously, define what you mean by "Hollywood". Are you just trashing modern summer blockbusters, which (for the most part) isn't entirely unreasonable, or are you actually suggesting the studios don't make or distribute quality films anymore?

Edited June 28, 2015 by Angelica

[IZZYISGNR]

Cinema died probably at the end of the 50's (cf. Godard or critics as Louis Skorecki). What we have now is post-cinema (which is quite boring and pointless most of the time).

“Cinema killed theatre; television killed cinema; and the Internet has killed television,”

Contempt (1963) is a farewell song to classic cinema :

[ZoSoRose]

Cinema died probably at the end of the 50's

lol

[AtariLegend]

Oh my god, Diesel, just shut up!

Hollywood movies that are really good or critically acclaimed in the past 10 years?

The Avengers, Spider-Man 2, Toy Story 3, Casino Royal, Skyfall, X-Men: Days of Future Past, Up, Mad Max: Fury Road, Star Trek, The Dark Knight, District 9, Interstellar, Avatar, Inception, Looper, Wreck it Ralph, Wall-E, Gravity, Guardians of the Galaxy...

Actually District 9 is a South African film, Casino Royal/Skyfall are British films, Mad Max is technically an Australian film. Just saying!

[Silent Jay]

Cinema died probably at the end of the 50's (cf. Godard or critics as Louis Skorecki). What we have now is post-cinema (which is quite boring and pointless most of the time).

“Cinema killed theatre; television killed cinema; and the Internet has killed television,”

Contempt (1963) is a farewell song to classic cinema :

You know your shit. Are you in some cinema and arts school?

[Dan H.]

Oh my god, Diesel, just shut up!

Hollywood movies that are really good or critically acclaimed in the past 10 years?

The Avengers, Spider-Man 2, Toy Story 3, Casino Royal, Skyfall, X-Men: Days of Future Past, Up, Mad Max: Fury Road, Star Trek, The Dark Knight, District 9, Interstellar, Avatar, Inception, Looper, Wreck it Ralph, Wall-E, Gravity, Guardians of the Galaxy...

Actually District 9 is a South African film, Casino Royal/Skyfall are British films, Mad Max is technically an Australian film. Just saying!

Again, I guess it comes down to what you define as "Hollywood" since all three those movies were produced by American companies in LA.

Although yeah, for the most part those movies are shot on location and feature mostly foreign actors and directors.

Edited June 28, 2015 by Dan H.

[AtariLegend]

Oh my god, Diesel, just shut up!

Hollywood movies that are really good or critically acclaimed in the past 10 years?

The Avengers, Spider-Man 2, Toy Story 3, Casino Royal, Skyfall, X-Men: Days of Future Past, Up, Mad Max: Fury Road, Star Trek, The Dark Knight, District 9, Interstellar, Avatar, Inception, Looper, Wreck it Ralph, Wall-E, Gravity, Guardians of the Galaxy...

Actually District 9 is a South African film, Casino Royal/Skyfall are British films, Mad Max is technically an Australian film. Just saying!

Again, I guess it comes down to what you define as "Hollywood" since all three those movies were produced by American companies in LA.

Although yeah, for the most part those movies are shot on location and feature mostly foreign actors and directors.

Actually again the Bond films were produced by Eon a British company and Mad Max was by 2 different Australian companies. District 9 technically yes, 1 of the 4 companies credited with producing it was American (QED International). You're confusing local distributors with production.

Anyway my point only was that not all of those were American films, most people tend not to differentiate English speaking films by country.

[Nosaj Thing]

But I ain't ever gonna be ashamed of American cinema... Because sorry, America makes the best movies.

Bold statement right there. I have nothing against American cinema, I love it, I dig it, I buy it but I disagree with what you said.